Decisions and actions that cost the Saints a Flag

[SaintPav]

Not managing the salary cap efficiently in the mid 2000s.

Lack of risk taking in both the 2009 and 2010 GF.

Apart from the moves Lyon made in the second half of 2010, our game plan which was our strength in many respects, was too inflexible and was also a weakness.

[remboy]

Me being born. Yep, that's right. I was born January 1967. We haven't won a flag since. Feel free to sink the boots in. It's all my fault.

[Stephen Theodore]

Stewart trade to richmond, Keddie last qtr 1971, mid season slump 1978 , 3v4 elimination final 1991, Frawley achilies injury 1992 , Alves leaving Prelim Adelaide WB at 3/4 time, Ball ahead of Judd, Going to movies mid season and losing home prelim, crowd running on for gehrig's 100th, No defensive plan 2005, bad kicking 2009, bouncing ball 2010.
Not holding on to things though!!!

That 71 last quarter sticks in my head to.

Ball instead of Judd possibly cost us one or more flags. Hindsight is easy though.

[arpstk]

What a great thread makes me proud to still be a St. Kilda supporter

[Spinner]

Not sacking GT and appointing RL earlier...

[arpstk]

what happened to everitt in 97?

[whiskers3614]

what happened to everitt in 97?

sHOULDER INJURY.

[saintspremiers]

One thing that comes to mind is how bad our drafting was during these years. Most premiership sides have at least one young gun in their side somewhere.

Where was our Hannebery, Steele Sidebottom or Brad Hill or even our Lachie Neale or Christensen?

Gilbert was only 23 in 2009 and a gun back then

[lefty]

Playing Eddy over Armo.

From memory, Armo was BOG against the Hawks not long before the finals, yet apparently not match fit or some rubbish.

[Saintberra]

Not convincing Harvs to play a 22nd season

[Enrico_Misso]

The stupid "challenge" system in 1913 where the top H&A side (Fitzroy) could challenge the side that won both their finals matches (StKilda) to a play-off which we lost.

That 1913 side contained three superstars - Roy Cazaly, Wels Eicke, and Vic Cumberland.
Plus some more than handy 100 game players in Bill Woodcock, Billy Schmidt, Bob Bowden and Gordon Dangerfield.
And 200 gamer Harry Lever.

Coached by George Sparrow (who had a 59% win rate) it should have been our first premiership.

[bigcarl]

Fate cost us a flag. History says we probably deserved one but didn't get it, so we move on and look forward to the next opportunity.

[Con Gorozidis]

One thing that comes to mind is how bad our drafting was during these years. Most premiership sides have at least one young gun in their side somewhere.

Where was our Hannebery, Steele Sidebottom or Brad Hill or even our Lachie Neale or Christensen?

Gilbert was only 23 in 2009 and a gun back then

Close call whether he was a definable as a 'young gun' inclusion in 2009 at 23yo.....We got him in the 2005 Draft..... I agree he was very good back then but didn't come into a GF side as a youngster.

2010- Sidebottom - 19
2011 - Christensen - 20
2012 - Parker 20/Hannebery - 22
2013 - B Hill - 20
2014 -B Hill - 21
(2015 - Freo - Hayden Crozier 21/Lachie Neale 22)

[Life Long Saint]

Losing Vidovic and Everitt to injury in consecutive weeks in 1997

[spert]

The excuse book for The Saints not winning any GF since '66 would probably be the biggest book ever written

[asiu]

The excuse book for The Saints not winning any GF since '66 would probably be the biggest book ever written

mmm.
... why is it we seem so brilliant at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory ?

Maybe we piss the Gods off , calling ourselves Saints.

... so to Win the thing ... we gotta beat em All ... at once
: the Afl
: the other teams
: the umpires
: 'n the dickheads who dont support us.
: the Gods.

seems like a fair Quest to me.
... car'n the Gulls.

[asiu]

... might be wise to have our First People get onside with a 'curse' removal
Ceremony as well.

and , if we are gunna call up our 'past players' to be involved in our Plan to Win the thing
... lets make sure our Past Players support network
(for those who are struggling with Life) is the best in the league.

[dragit]

[fugazi]

Leaving Luke Ball on th bench for 2nd half of '09 GF when he was tracking for the Norm Smith up until then

[fugazi]

Leaving Luke Ball on th bench for 2nd half of '09 GF when he was tracking for the Norm Smith up until then

[dragit]

I'll go with trading 6 & 31 for Barry Brooks in 2002.

While Salopek never turned into a star, he would have been a very handy player through 04 - 10.

Mackie, Winderlich, Schulz, Minson all came later

[SainterK]

Luke Ball was a big moment player.

I will never forget that Rd 14 game vs the cats in 09, when big show took THAT mark.

I remember who kicked it to him.

[SaintPav]

Don't get me wrong, Luke was a very good player but Luke Ball version 2010 was not the same version 2007-2009.

Couldn't spread at the Saints.

Luke got himself very fit at the Pies and probably made up his mind to leave well before the end of 2009.

[saynta]

Losing Vidovic and Everitt to injury in consecutive weeks in 1997

Smith was also a big loss.

[saynta]

Don't get me wrong, Luke was a very good player but Luke Ball version 2010 was not the same version 2007-2009.

Couldn't spread at the Saints.

Luke got himself very fit at the Pies and probably made up his mind to leave well before the end of 2009.

If he did, it was still because of his treatment by Lyon.