I'm torn...

[plugger66]

Who is last at the moment. The Suns and how many low draft picks have they had.?

It's about the potential of high picks. With their picks they should be going better but as stated ( no guarantees ) but hey gimme those high picks so we can start winning games to attract the FA players.

Do you want us to win today? I certainly do even though we will probably lose by 10 goals.

for fear of repeating myself
yes I do...but if we get done it won't hurt us or me as much knowing we are closer to a better pick.

That is the right attitude. I think the same as most people. My point all along is the day of a game you don't start a thread saying it would be better if we lost a game which is how this thread was started.

Oh I see it's ok to say but just not game day??
Desperate now plugs...,

LOL but your FA theory was gonna save us????????/ Berg may have just shot a hole in that one...
Anyway, doesnt matter I know and YOU know deep down we need to top up as much as we can on as high draft picks as we can get cause today we saw how an A Grade side choc full of talent does it.....
Stick fat Pluggs - plenty more losses to come yet..


Not as much as you. When did I say I only care on day game? And in a previous post you mention me saying somrthing 3 times. How many time can you mention the system? Id say 40. And what about stats. If we say finishing bottom hasn't meant a flag and show stats to say that you don't like them but then you like Berholt stats to prove what I don't know. If im desperate your just plain struggling.

Quoting not a strong suit. Yep there will be plenty more losses but unlike you I wont be proud of those losses. Yep I saw how good the Hawks did it last night. I think they may have the least top 4 picks in their side than nearly any other side. Thanks for helping me and hurting your cause. Keep it up teffers. What a great cause you are fighting for. Our clubs right to finish as low as we can. I also noticed you did a lot of typing during the game. Not wanting to win and typing during a game. 1 and 1 certainly equals 2 in this case.

[plugger66]

So there must be some excited Saints supporters who post here tonight. Another 10 goal loss to the team, great for the clubs morale, but wait we will get pick 3 instead of pick 4 which will ensure us a flag.

Wont it guys.

This is the type of post that is ruining this site. This is baiting from one of the worst serial offenders. Nobody is happy we lost by 10 goals. What I and others have said is that (especially for this year and next) we want the Saints to play well and be competitive. We want 2 more seasons of the highest picks possible to round out our rebuild. Then from 2017 onwards win as many games as we possibly can.

Q. Why is that too hard for you to understand BUNK and others? A. Because you are smart arses and just want to cause trouble.

Calling people smart arses and you want the others to get a warning. You wanted us to lose today. I saw the post. Maybe not by 10 goals but losing is losing.

[kosifantutti]

Interesting the guys who are prepared to accept a loss and just enjoy watching the young players develop are spending the third quarter writing essays.

Its glass half full stuff - should try it.

The guys telling us the sky will fall in if we lose another game or 3 seem to repeat the same thing over again without saying anything at all related to the thread...?

Maybe you can tell us what the thread is about. Obviously anyone who disagrees with you doesn't know what it's about. Is it a secret?

[kosifantutti]

I'm not torn today. I want St Kilda to play really well and lose by under 20 points.

So you want us to lose. We can quote you on that?

You have all thread so why stop now?

When in doubt...make it up!!

No idea what you're getting at.

Should I just be smug and say you don't know what this thread is about?

[Bunk_Moreland]

So there must be some excited Saints supporters who post here tonight. Another 10 goal loss to the team, great for the clubs morale, but wait we will get pick 3 instead of pick 4 which will ensure us a flag.

Wont it guys.

This is the type of post that is ruining this site. This is baiting from one of the worst serial offenders. Nobody is happy we lost by 10 goals. What I and others have said is that (especially for this year and next) we want the Saints to play well and be competitive. We want 2 more seasons of the highest picks possible to round out our rebuild. Then from 2017 onwards win as many games as we possibly can.

Q. Why is that too hard for you to understand BUNK and others? A. Because you are smart arses and just want to cause trouble.

Calling people smart arses and you want the others to get a warning. You wanted us to lose today. I saw the post. Maybe not by 10 goals but losing is losing.

This.

Stated he wants us to lose AT LEAST 10 games for the year before yesterday, then gets upset when someone points out how happy he must be because his wish is coming true.

Dont see the issue when someone states they want our team to lose and then remind them of it.

[saintsRrising]

So there must be some excited Saints supporters who post here tonight. Another 10 goal loss to the team, great for the clubs morale, but wait we will get pick 3 instead of pick 4 which will ensure us a flag.

Wont it guys.

This is the type of post that is ruining this site. This is baiting from one of the worst serial offenders. Nobody is happy we lost by 10 goals. What I and others have said is that (especially for this year and next) we want the Saints to play well and be competitive. We want 2 more seasons of the highest picks possible to round out our rebuild. Then from 2017 onwards win as many games as we possibly can.

Q. Why is that too hard for you to understand BUNK and others? A. Because you are smart arses and just want to cause trouble.

Just to be clear. 2 seasons of highest picks possible equals two wooden spoons. TWO WOODEN SPOONS IN A ROW....AFTER ONE LAST YEAR. IMO any supporter who wants that of the Saints is not a supporter. No ifs or buts, they are a disgrace.

THIS is meant to be a forum for Stkilda Supporters.if the mids ban me then so be it. I will just moved to the forum that the op has been banned permanently from. But at least I won't have to put up with supposed supporters stating that they want to win three spoons in a row.

[citywest]

1. I haven't been banned permanently from Bigfooty. I can prove this if you want me to.
2. I have clearly stated that I don't want St Kilda to win the wooden spoon.

Instead of getting emotional saintsRrising, how about you discuss the issue by putting your view forward and backing it up with proof. The only thing you have achieved with your latest post is to completely dis-credit your self.

My suggestion is to go to my user and check out my recent post and read what I have actually said in this thread. You may actually realize that I want the Saints to win the flag just like you.

[Teflon]

Who is last at the moment. The Suns and how many low draft picks have they had.?

It's about the potential of high picks. With their picks they should be going better but as stated ( no guarantees ) but hey gimme those high picks so we can start winning games to attract the FA players.

Do you want us to win today? I certainly do even though we will probably lose by 10 goals.

for fear of repeating myself
yes I do...but if we get done it won't hurt us or me as much knowing we are closer to a better pick.

That is the right attitude. I think the same as most people. My point all along is the day of a game you don't start a thread saying it would be better if we lost a game which is how this thread was started.

Oh I see it's ok to say but just not game day??
Desperate now plugs...,

LOL but your FA theory was gonna save us????????/ Berg may have just shot a hole in that one...
Anyway, doesnt matter I know and YOU know deep down we need to top up as much as we can on as high draft picks as we can get cause today we saw how an A Grade side choc full of talent does it.....
Stick fat Pluggs - plenty more losses to come yet..


Not as much as you. When did I say I only care on day game? And in a previous post you mention me saying somrthing 3 times. How many time can you mention the system? Id say 40. And what about stats. If we say finishing bottom hasn't meant a flag and show stats to say that you don't like them but then you like Berholt stats to prove what I don't know. If im desperate your just plain struggling.

Quoting not a strong suit. Yep there will be plenty more losses but unlike you I wont be proud of those losses. Yep I saw how good the Hawks did it last night. I think they may have the least top 4 picks in their side than nearly any other side. Thanks for helping me and hurting your cause. Keep it up teffers. What a great cause you are fighting for. Our clubs right to finish as low as we can. I also noticed you did a lot of typing during the game. Not wanting to win and typing during a game. 1 and 1 certainly equals 2 in this case.

If all that is trying to apologise and say your wrong you spent far to much energy....
Hang tough , don't squib it the wins and hopefully draft picks will come
Chin up - your FA strategy for once may prove useful??

[Teflon]

I'm not torn today. I want St Kilda to play really well and lose by under 20 points.

So you want us to lose. We can quote you on that?

You have all thread so why stop now?

When in doubt...make it up!!

No idea what you're getting at.

Should I just be smug and say you don't know what this thread is about?

Yes, I'd go smug if I were you that way you don't have to pretend you understand the topic and hit us up with amazing insights like "how did Roo go against the Dogs..."

[Teflon]

So there must be some excited Saints supporters who post here tonight. Another 10 goal loss to the team, great for the clubs morale, but wait we will get pick 3 instead of pick 4 which will ensure us a flag.

Wont it guys.

This is the type of post that is ruining this site. This is baiting from one of the worst serial offenders. Nobody is happy we lost by 10 goals. What I and others have said is that (especially for this year and next) we want the Saints to play well and be competitive. We want 2 more seasons of the highest picks possible to round out our rebuild. Then from 2017 onwards win as many games as we possibly can.

Q. Why is that too hard for you to understand BUNK and others? A. Because you are smart arses and just want to cause trouble.

Just to be clear. 2 seasons of highest picks possible equals two wooden spoons. TWO WOODEN SPOONS IN A ROW....AFTER ONE LAST YEAR. IMO any supporter who wants that of the Saints is not a supporter. No ifs or buts, they are a disgrace.

THIS is meant to be a forum for Stkilda Supporters.if the mids ban me then so be it. I will just moved to the forum that the op has been banned permanently from. But at least I won't have to put up with supposed supporters stating that they want to win three spoons in a row.

Mids won't ban you - we haven't drafted enough
Hang in there oh defender of St Kildas moral virtue...
Or....
Grow up?
It seems when discussions don't go your way you get all hissy..here's a cliche to help you
"Still tongue makes a wise head"....

[Teflon]

1. I haven't been banned permanently from Bigfooty. I can prove this if you want me to.
2. I have clearly stated that I don't want St Kilda to win the wooden spoon.

Instead of getting emotional saintsRrising, how about you discuss the issue by putting your view forward and backing it up with proof. The only thing you have achieved with your latest post is to completely dis-credit your self.

My suggestion is to go to my user and check out my recent post and read what I have actually said in this thread. You may actually realize that I want the Saints to win the flag just like you.

Emotion is all he has left cause he knows what is being suggested as a short term strategy makes perfect sense
So does Pluggs but can't admit it - even if they can't measure this supposed "end of the world impact" from losing another game or 2..

[asiu]

an inquisitorial not adversarial environment
might help around these parts as well.

... but thats a game for grownups.

[The Fireman]

well the Dorks tore us a new one.

[plugger66]

Who is last at the moment. The Suns and how many low draft picks have they had.?

It's about the potential of high picks. With their picks they should be going better but as stated ( no guarantees ) but hey gimme those high picks so we can start winning games to attract the FA players.

Do you want us to win today? I certainly do even though we will probably lose by 10 goals.

for fear of repeating myself
yes I do...but if we get done it won't hurt us or me as much knowing we are closer to a better pick.

That is the right attitude. I think the same as most people. My point all along is the day of a game you don't start a thread saying it would be better if we lost a game which is how this thread was started.

Oh I see it's ok to say but just not game day??
Desperate now plugs...,

LOL but your FA theory was gonna save us????????/ Berg may have just shot a hole in that one...
Anyway, doesnt matter I know and YOU know deep down we need to top up as much as we can on as high draft picks as we can get cause today we saw how an A Grade side choc full of talent does it.....
Stick fat Pluggs - plenty more losses to come yet..


Not as much as you. When did I say I only care on day game? And in a previous post you mention me saying somrthing 3 times. How many time can you mention the system? Id say 40. And what about stats. If we say finishing bottom hasn't meant a flag and show stats to say that you don't like them but then you like Berholt stats to prove what I don't know. If im desperate your just plain struggling.

Quoting not a strong suit. Yep there will be plenty more losses but unlike you I wont be proud of those losses. Yep I saw how good the Hawks did it last night. I think they may have the least top 4 picks in their side than nearly any other side. Thanks for helping me and hurting your cause. Keep it up teffers. What a great cause you are fighting for. Our clubs right to finish as low as we can. I also noticed you did a lot of typing during the game. Not wanting to win and typing during a game. 1 and 1 certainly equals 2 in this case.

If all that is trying to apologise and say your wrong you spent far to much energy....
Hang tough , don't squib it the wins and hopefully draft picks will come
Chin up - your FA strategy for once may prove useful??

Seriously Teffes you are losing the plot. I don't know where you slightly got the idea that I think I was wrong. The more I read of you the more I see you only have thing to offer here and that pick 3 is better than pick 4. Wow. When asked questions to prove it helps in the long run you then again mention its the system. Keep fighting though. Its a lost cause just like you hope the saints are. Hope you enjoy the fast forwarding of the next 2 years. I will watching the game hoping we will win, you will be typing during the game not giving a stuff about the result. We need more of your supporter type.

And if you really have the courage you would tell us you want to lose every single game this year because we then may get pick one which is better than pick 2. How could you possibly say you follow the saints but hope we lose every single game left in the year? Maybe next year you will hope they lose 22 in a row just in case some side only wins one game.

[Bunk_Moreland]

1. I haven't been banned permanently from Bigfooty. I can prove this if you want me to.
2. I have clearly stated that I don't want St Kilda to win the wooden spoon.

Instead of getting emotional saintsRrising, how about you discuss the issue by putting your view forward and backing it up with proof. The only thing you have achieved with your latest post is to completely dis-credit your self.

My suggestion is to go to my user and check out my recent post and read what I have actually said in this thread. You may actually realize that I want the Saints to win the flag just like you.

Winning the # 1 pick means winning the wooden spoon. The logical conclusion toyour and Teflons magnificent and well thought out strategy is to get the best pick possible which is obviously #1 pick.

If you believe in optimising and maximising our chances at the draft, you have to believe you want no.1 pick, which means you want the wooden spoon.

Unless you want this you dont believe in this wonderful strategy.

So can you and Teflon answer if you want to maximise our chances which logically means the no.1 pick, or you only want to sorta maximise it by winning a arbitary number of games and not really maximising our chances at the draft?

you see this is how sensible your fantastic cerebal strategy look when taken to its logical conclusion.

Of course Citywest want the second option cause he wants us to win 6 games for the season (thereby barracking for another nine losses this year) so he is not really committed to the teflon doctrine of tanking and failure for three woosen spoons in a row.

Sounds like a great recipe for success. You guys should apply for the job of CEO and coach. Iam sure your business strategy would go down a treat with anyone that has more than a Bookkeepers crtificate.

[plugger66]

1. I haven't been banned permanently from Bigfooty. I can prove this if you want me to.
2. I have clearly stated that I don't want St Kilda to win the wooden spoon.

Instead of getting emotional saintsRrising, how about you discuss the issue by putting your view forward and backing it up with proof. The only thing you have achieved with your latest post is to completely dis-credit your self.

My suggestion is to go to my user and check out my recent post and read what I have actually said in this thread. You may actually realize that I want the Saints to win the flag just like you.

Winning the # 1 pick means winning the wooden spoon. The logical conclusion toyour and Teflons magnificent and well thought out strategy is to get the best pick possible which is obviously #1 pick.

If you believe in optimising and maximising our chances at the draft, you have to believe you want no.1 pick, which means you want the wooden spoon.

Unless you want this you dont believe in this wonderful strategy.

So can you and Teflon answer if you want to maximise our chances which logically means the no.1 pick, or you only want to sorta maximise it by winning a arbitary number of games and not really maximising our chances at the draft?

you see this is how sensible your fantastic cerebal strategy look when taken to its logical conclusion.

Of course Citywest want the second option cause he wants us to win 6 games for the season (thereby barracking for another nine losses this year) so he is not really committed to the teflon doctrine of tanking and failure for three woosen spoons in a row.

Sounds like a great recipe for success. You guys should apply for the job of CEO and coach. Iam sure your business strategy would go down a treat with anyone that has more than a Bookkeepers crtificate.

Totally agree. Its like being half pregnant. if these guys are fair dinkum and its all about the system then surely they don't want to win another game until the start of 2017. Im sure I have read where they think that we need 2 more years of good picks and the best pick is number so just in case another side is poor it would be safer just to not win until the end of 2016. That's the system apparently.

[saintsRrising]

1. I haven't been banned permanently from Bigfooty. I can prove this if you want me to.
2. I have clearly stated that I don't want St Kilda to win the wooden spoon.

Instead of getting emotional saintsRrising, how about you discuss the issue by putting your view forward and backing it up with proof. The only thing you have achieved with your latest post is to completely dis-credit your self.

My suggestion is to go to my user and check out my recent post and read what I have actually said in this thread. You may actually realize that I want the Saints to win the flag just like you.

You said you wanted highest picks possible.

So unless you are completely clueless, which I accept is a strong possibility, or have no idea how the draft actually works, again a possibility, then that means you want us to finish stone motherless last = WOODEN SPOON.

Or do you someohow know the path to the immaculate conception of a No 1 Draft pick without a Wooden Spoon?

So we can see that in fact that you clearly state nothting. You clain you do not want us to win a wooden spon, but euqally have clearly stated that you want us to have the highest possible draft picks.

Conclusion:
1/You cannot think through the consequences of your own argument
OR
2/ You are just trolling

[Teflon]

Who is last at the moment. The Suns and how many low draft picks have they had.?

It's about the potential of high picks. With their picks they should be going better but as stated ( no guarantees ) but hey gimme those high picks so we can start winning games to attract the FA players.

Do you want us to win today? I certainly do even though we will probably lose by 10 goals.

for fear of repeating myself
yes I do...but if we get done it won't hurt us or me as much knowing we are closer to a better pick.

That is the right attitude. I think the same as most people. My point all along is the day of a game you don't start a thread saying it would be better if we lost a game which is how this thread was started.

Oh I see it's ok to say but just not game day??
Desperate now plugs...,

LOL but your FA theory was gonna save us????????/ Berg may have just shot a hole in that one...
Anyway, doesnt matter I know and YOU know deep down we need to top up as much as we can on as high draft picks as we can get cause today we saw how an A Grade side choc full of talent does it.....
Stick fat Pluggs - plenty more losses to come yet..


Not as much as you. When did I say I only care on day game? And in a previous post you mention me saying somrthing 3 times. How many time can you mention the system? Id say 40. And what about stats. If we say finishing bottom hasn't meant a flag and show stats to say that you don't like them but then you like Berholt stats to prove what I don't know. If im desperate your just plain struggling.

Quoting not a strong suit. Yep there will be plenty more losses but unlike you I wont be proud of those losses. Yep I saw how good the Hawks did it last night. I think they may have the least top 4 picks in their side than nearly any other side. Thanks for helping me and hurting your cause. Keep it up teffers. What a great cause you are fighting for. Our clubs right to finish as low as we can. I also noticed you did a lot of typing during the game. Not wanting to win and typing during a game. 1 and 1 certainly equals 2 in this case.

If all that is trying to apologise and say your wrong you spent far to much energy....
Hang tough , don't squib it the wins and hopefully draft picks will come
Chin up - your FA strategy for once may prove useful??

Seriously Teffes you are losing the plot. I don't know where you slightly got the idea that I think I was wrong. The more I read of you the more I see you only have thing to offer here and that pick 3 is better than pick 4. Wow. When asked questions to prove it helps in the long run you then again mention its the system. Keep fighting though. Its a lost cause just like you hope the saints are. Hope you enjoy the fast forwarding of the next 2 years. I will watching the game hoping we will win, you will be typing during the game not giving a stuff about the result. We need more of your supporter type.

And if you really have the courage you would tell us you want to lose every single game this year because we then may get pick one which is better than pick 2. How could you possibly say you follow the saints but hope we lose every single game left in the year? Maybe next year you will hope they lose 22 in a row just in case some side only wins one game.

More drivel and false words from the chief protagonist who just makes stuff up
Where in this thread have I stated I want us to lose every game - i thought this site did have rules about baiting or at least about simply making up lies
That aside, I am please you finally realise pick 3 is a better option than pick 4 .....its taken 16 pages to get that through....
What happens beyond then is anyones guess but once again not the point of the thread.

[Teflon]

1. I haven't been banned permanently from Bigfooty. I can prove this if you want me to.
2. I have clearly stated that I don't want St Kilda to win the wooden spoon.

Instead of getting emotional saintsRrising, how about you discuss the issue by putting your view forward and backing it up with proof. The only thing you have achieved with your latest post is to completely dis-credit your self.

My suggestion is to go to my user and check out my recent post and read what I have actually said in this thread. You may actually realize that I want the Saints to win the flag just like you.

Winning the # 1 pick means winning the wooden spoon. The logical conclusion toyour and Teflons magnificent and well thought out strategy is to get the best pick possible which is obviously #1 pick.

If you believe in optimising and maximising our chances at the draft, you have to believe you want no.1 pick, which means you want the wooden spoon.

Unless you want this you dont believe in this wonderful strategy.

So can you and Teflon answer if you want to maximise our chances which logically means the no.1 pick, or you only want to sorta maximise it by winning a arbitary number of games and not really maximising our chances at the draft?

you see this is how sensible your fantastic cerebal strategy look when taken to its logical conclusion.

Of course Citywest want the second option cause he wants us to win 6 games for the season (thereby barracking for another nine losses this year) so he is not really committed to the teflon doctrine of tanking and failure for three woosen spoons in a row.

Sounds like a great recipe for success. You guys should apply for the job of CEO and coach. Iam sure your business strategy would go down a treat with anyone that has more than a Bookkeepers crtificate.

Totally agree. Its like being half pregnant. if these guys are fair dinkum and its all about the system then surely they don't want to win another game until the start of 2017. Im sure I have read where they think that we need 2 more years of good picks and the best pick is number so just in case another side is poor it would be safer just to not win until the end of 2016. That's the system apparently.

....geez......black or white eh? is that all the simpletons get??

Its about balance - show enough, play enough kids win some, lose some more.....short term pain but with a longer term goal and a plan to get talent into the club.
Keep up the hysterics - last time it was 'no FAs would come to us....' when that got shot down its back to 'you guys said lose every game....' blah blah blah
Honestly, at least be original if youre going to lie or get a new soundtrack cause youre old with this one.

Again who said lose every game??? you hysterical queens need to show us the post?

[plugger66]

More drivel and false words from the chief protagonist who just makes stuff up
Where in this thread have I stated I want us to lose every game - i thought this site did have rules about baiting or at least about simply making up lies
That aside, I am please you finally realise pick 3 is a better option than pick 4 .....its taken 16 pages to get that through....
What happens beyond then is anyones guess but once again not the point of the thread.

A few simple questions teffes that you probably wont answer. Does the system give you better picks the lower you get? Do you want the best picks possible this year and next? Is the only way to guarantee the best pick possible next year by winning no games? And to guarantee the best pick possible this year wouldn't we need to lose every single game left? Now they are simple questions so can you please answer them.

[Teflon]

1. I haven't been banned permanently from Bigfooty. I can prove this if you want me to.
2. I have clearly stated that I don't want St Kilda to win the wooden spoon.

Instead of getting emotional saintsRrising, how about you discuss the issue by putting your view forward and backing it up with proof. The only thing you have achieved with your latest post is to completely dis-credit your self.

My suggestion is to go to my user and check out my recent post and read what I have actually said in this thread. You may actually realize that I want the Saints to win the flag just like you.

You said you wanted highest picks possible.

So unless you are completely clueless, which I accept is a strong possibility, or have no idea how the draft actually works, again a possibility, then that means you want us to finish stone motherless last = WOODEN SPOON.

Or do you someohow know the path to the immaculate conception of a No 1 Draft pick without a Wooden Spoon?

So we can see that in fact that you clearly state nothting. You clain you do not want us to win a wooden spon, but euqally have clearly stated that you want us to have the highest possible draft picks.

Conclusion:
1/You cannot think through the consequences of your own argument
OR
2/ You are just trolling

Do you really try so hard or naturally thick?

FACT we wont get pick 1 so how can that be we finish 'stone motherless last?'....
Honestly get a grip or give yourself an uppercut.
Getting access to the highest possible pick we can does not automatically mean another spoon and pick 1- in this case it wont and cant...but you can still aim for the best possible pick you can get?

If youre not going to adde to the discussion cause you clearly dont get it then best stay out of it....we got enough simpletons arguing the same emotional drivel points already...

[Teflon]

1. I haven't been banned permanently from Bigfooty. I can prove this if you want me to.
2. I have clearly stated that I don't want St Kilda to win the wooden spoon.

Instead of getting emotional saintsRrising, how about you discuss the issue by putting your view forward and backing it up with proof. The only thing you have achieved with your latest post is to completely dis-credit your self.

My suggestion is to go to my user and check out my recent post and read what I have actually said in this thread. You may actually realize that I want the Saints to win the flag just like you.

Winning the # 1 pick means winning the wooden spoon. The logical conclusion toyour and Teflons magnificent and well thought out strategy is to get the best pick possible which is obviously #1 pick.

If you believe in optimising and maximising our chances at the draft, you have to believe you want no.1 pick, which means you want the wooden spoon.

Unless you want this you dont believe in this wonderful strategy.

So can you and Teflon answer if you want to maximise our chances which logically means the no.1 pick, or you only want to sorta maximise it by winning a arbitary number of games and not really maximising our chances at the draft?

you see this is how sensible your fantastic cerebal strategy look when taken to its logical conclusion.

Of course Citywest want the second option cause he wants us to win 6 games for the season (thereby barracking for another nine losses this year) so he is not really committed to the teflon doctrine of tanking and failure for three woosen spoons in a row.

Sounds like a great recipe for success. You guys should apply for the job of CEO and coach. Iam sure your business strategy would go down a treat with anyone that has more than a Bookkeepers crtificate.

Why does it follow that I want us to maximise our draft picks and therefore it must be pick 1?
That takes no account of where we actually are a side and we are not last and wont finish last
Honestly, the lack of intellect is astounding.
Just think before reaching for that lap top....(or lap dog if Pluggers over at yours...whichever comes first..)

[plugger66]

1. I haven't been banned permanently from Bigfooty. I can prove this if you want me to.
2. I have clearly stated that I don't want St Kilda to win the wooden spoon.

Instead of getting emotional saintsRrising, how about you discuss the issue by putting your view forward and backing it up with proof. The only thing you have achieved with your latest post is to completely dis-credit your self.

My suggestion is to go to my user and check out my recent post and read what I have actually said in this thread. You may actually realize that I want the Saints to win the flag just like you.

You said you wanted highest picks possible.

So unless you are completely clueless, which I accept is a strong possibility, or have no idea how the draft actually works, again a possibility, then that means you want us to finish stone motherless last = WOODEN SPOON.

Or do you someohow know the path to the immaculate conception of a No 1 Draft pick without a Wooden Spoon?

So we can see that in fact that you clearly state nothting. You clain you do not want us to win a wooden spon, but euqally have clearly stated that you want us to have the highest possible draft picks.

Conclusion:
1/You cannot think through the consequences of your own argument
OR
2/ You are just trolling

Do you really try so hard or naturally thick?

FACT we wont get pick 1 so how can that be we finish 'stone motherless last?'....
Honestly get a grip or give yourself an uppercut.
Getting access to the highest possible pick we can does not automatically mean another spoon and pick 1- in this case it wont and cant...but you can still aim for the best possible pick you can get?

If youre not going to adde to the discussion cause you clearly dont get it then best stay out of it....we got enough simpletons arguing the same emotional drivel points already...

Of course we could finish last. 3 wins usually does finish last. Well certainly before the new sides came in. You want to finish as low as possible because of the system so surely that follows that we give ourselves the best chance of finishing last by winning no more games or at least the best chance of the second pick. It seems you don't have the courage to say you don't want us to win anymore this year but you keep telling about this system that rewards clubs lower down the ladder. Its seems you are half pregnant.

[Teflon]

But its simply not true to say I want us to lose every game - why do I need courage to say something that I know wont happen and dont believe in?
Your becoming more illogical by the post.
Have another drink.

[kosifantutti]

1. I haven't been banned permanently from Bigfooty. I can prove this if you want me to.
2. I have clearly stated that I don't want St Kilda to win the wooden spoon.

Instead of getting emotional saintsRrising, how about you discuss the issue by putting your view forward and backing it up with proof. The only thing you have achieved with your latest post is to completely dis-credit your self.

My suggestion is to go to my user and check out my recent post and read what I have actually said in this thread. You may actually realize that I want the Saints to win the flag just like you.

Winning the # 1 pick means winning the wooden spoon. The logical conclusion toyour and Teflons magnificent and well thought out strategy is to get the best pick possible which is obviously #1 pick.

If you believe in optimising and maximising our chances at the draft, you have to believe you want no.1 pick, which means you want the wooden spoon.

Unless you want this you dont believe in this wonderful strategy.

So can you and Teflon answer if you want to maximise our chances which logically means the no.1 pick, or you only want to sorta maximise it by winning a arbitary number of games and not really maximising our chances at the draft?

you see this is how sensible your fantastic cerebal strategy look when taken to its logical conclusion.

Of course Citywest want the second option cause he wants us to win 6 games for the season (thereby barracking for another nine losses this year) so he is not really committed to the teflon doctrine of tanking and failure for three woosen spoons in a row.

Sounds like a great recipe for success. You guys should apply for the job of CEO and coach. Iam sure your business strategy would go down a treat with anyone that has more than a Bookkeepers crtificate.

Why does it follow that I want us to maximise our draft picks and therefore it must be pick 1?
That takes no account of where we actually are a side and we are not last and wont finish last
Honestly, the lack of intellect is astounding.
Just think before reaching for that lap top....(or lap dog if Pluggers over at yours...whichever comes first..)

Teflon makes a good point.

There's no way we could finish on the bottom.

We've won three games and we're 2 games and 13% clear of last place.

Whereas after round 10 last year, we had 3 wins and were 2 games and 13% clear of last place.