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Post: # 1551087Post CURLY »

Just blatant cheating and that's being nice. Player gets the ball sees Billings and thinks I will crash through. Held for an eternity no free. Armo taken head on in packs frequently no free. Webster hit in the ear no fifty. Countless throws ignored. Bruce held wrestled taken front on nothing.

Just becoming a bigger joke.


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Post: # 1551115Post Bowey Boy »

Saints have been bent over for more than 30 years. It will never change.


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Post: # 1551117Post in for the long haul »

While you do need to cut the umpires some slack I got to say it was the worst umpiring I have seen for some time. Some of the frees to west coast particularly in the first quarter were mystifying aas were the lack of frees to us. I think one of the problems is that we seem to get the junior/poor umpires each week.


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Post: # 1551118Post in for the long haul »

While you do need to cut the umpires some slack I got to say it was the worst umpiring I have seen for some time. Some of the frees to west coast particularly in the first quarter were mystifying aas were the lack of frees to us. I think one of the problems is that we seem to get the junior/poor umpires each week.


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Post: # 1551122Post gringo »

in for the long haul wrote:While you do need to cut the umpires some slack I got to say it was the worst umpiring I have seen for some time. Some of the frees to west coast particularly in the first quarter were mystifying aas were the lack of frees to us. I think one of the problems is that we seem to get the junior/poor umpires each week.

Junior..... more like putting up the visually impaired ones.

They must be on the take or that is just awful awful work. I think I would prefer those morons to be corrupt than think we paid him money to do that in an impartial way.


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Post: # 1551128Post BringBackMadDog »

The free kick against Bruce when he was on the long lead and got pushed under the ball...I think the ump paid shepparding, I have never seen a free like that in the 43 years I've been watching the game, just unbelievable


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Post: # 1551129Post Con Gorozidis »

in for the long haul wrote:While you do need to cut the umpires some slack I got to say it was the worst umpiring I have seen for some time. Some of the frees to west coast particularly in the first quarter were mystifying aas were the lack of frees to us. I think one of the problems is that we seem to get the junior/poor umpires each week.
It seemed like there were two completely different standards operating. They got the free for the lightest of touch - whereas they were allowed to pole-axe us repeatedly no problems.


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Post: # 1551138Post seano1 »

CURLY wrote:Just blatant cheating and that's being nice. Player gets the ball sees Billings and thinks I will crash through. Held for an eternity no free. Armo taken head on in packs frequently no free. Webster hit in the ear no fifty. Countless throws ignored. Bruce held wrestled taken front on nothing.

Just becoming a bigger joke.

I think Jimmys one was his nose not ear and sent off blood rule and no fifty..........and in I think the last qtr one ump says play on and another gives a free to WC when it should have been a mark to us in the first place.


Like someone else wrote it might of change the result in the game but it does spoil the match ...the game shouldn`t be about the umps but it is becoming so


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Post: # 1551152Post Devilhead »

BringBackMadDog wrote:The free kick against Bruce when he was on the long lead and got pushed under the ball...I think the ump paid shepparding, I have never seen a free like that in the 43 years I've been watching the game, just unbelievable
I asked the same question but apparently Bruce was indeed payed the free kick but then it was reversed for a minor runner infraction

The one i was really was speechless over was McKenzie's tackle near the boundary on the wing being called high when it was the most perfect tackle you would ever see - luckily the WC player kicked straight to McKenzie on the mark and we got a goal out of it

Reckon we took about 5 marks that werent paid that in any other game this weekend would be paid - crucial times as well when were still in the game


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Post: # 1551153Post 4ever_saint »

What pisses me off most is that NO ONE will say anything. Not Richo, not our CEO...hell, speaking out about the umpires is how we got into this mess in the first place (Thanks Thommo!). And what's worse is that nobody in the media will give it a single mention. We get done in EVERY week and nothing ever changes.

If it was Collingwood getting this treatment, Eddie would be up in arms and things would change. I feel like our club just takes it sometimes. We don't stand up for ourselves or the players! Naitanui was ragdolling Longer in the ruck all day, Bruce was manhandled constantly and yet NOTHING. Our boys laid 86 tackles for the game (which is outstanding) and we didn't get a single holding the ball free kick. Makes me sick.


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Post: # 1551157Post saintspremiers »

Must say Fish Lips on 3AW is a decent special comments person. He along with Tim Lane got stuck into the pathetic umpiring and reckoned we got a really raw deal. Even saying that evening it up in the last term was basically tokenism


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Post: # 1551158Post Bowey Boy »

4ever_saint wrote:What pisses me off most is that NO ONE will say anything. Not Richo, not our CEO...hell, speaking out about the umpires is how we got into this mess in the first place (Thanks Thommo!). And what's worse is that nobody in the media will give it a single mention. We get done in EVERY week and nothing ever changes.

If it was Collingwood getting this treatment, Eddie would be up in arms and things would change. I feel like our club just takes it sometimes. We don't stand up for ourselves or the players! Naitanui was ragdolling Longer in the ruck all day, Bruce was manhandled constantly and yet NOTHING. Our boys laid 86 tackles for the game (which is outstanding) and we didn't get a single holding the ball free kick. Makes me sick.
Grant Thomas complained about the umpiring once just before we played Freo in Perth. Result was 5 gift goals to Freo in the last quarter and around three marks in the forward line not paid to the Saints. Result - Saints lost after the siren in the most blatently corrupt, rigged game I have ever seen (on my TV just before the remote hit it). St Kilda have to win in a five goal ahead effort against any of the League's favourites - just get used to it, I am 52, university educated and have worked out that we are a punching bag and it will never change.


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Post: # 1551159Post Kate »

Hoping to hear something from Bruce Eva at 7pm on 3AW. Hope he doesn't wuss it.


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Post: # 1551181Post saint6709 »

Anyone know how to find the for and against stat for 2015


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Post: # 1551189Post Junction Oval »

I don't often comment about umpires, as it is a waste of time. However, the Club should make some representations to the AFL.

I saw Joey having a few words with an Ump as they were walking off for the half time break - he was not a happy chap (Joey, that is).

Some strange/very soft frees to WCE today :evil:


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Post: # 1551206Post Bernard Shakey »

Most of the frees they got were there. Some we didn't get were there as well.

Why complain about the umps? They didn't cost us the game!


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Post: # 1551209Post CURLY »

Bernard Shakey wrote:Most of the frees they got were there. Some we didn't get were there as well.

Why complain about the umps? They didn't cost us the game!
Because they were shithouse. To many poor call against us in one game to ignore


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Post: # 1551213Post Bernard Shakey »

CURLY wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:Most of the frees they got were there. Some we didn't get were there as well.

Why complain about the umps? They didn't cost us the game!
Because they were shithouse. To many poor call against us in one game to ignore
I've watched the game again, and they weren't that bad. Obviously the holding the ball interpretation has changed this week!


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Post: # 1551223Post Enrico_Misso »

West Coast are the "best" club in the competition for milking free kicks.
This goes back more than a decade.
Almost every year they are in top three clubs for favourable free kicks differential, and over the decade are miles in front.
(There was a thread on this a couple of years ago and WCE had a cumulative free kick differential of several hundred - miles ahead of second place, whilst we were well in the negative).
Check their free kick tallies - most weeks they get at least 5 more, today it was a lazy 8.

Who could forget our game against them a couple of years ago at Docklands when the umpires got them up with a string a outright dodgy free kicks in the last quarter!!!


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Post: # 1551232Post CURLY »

Bernard Shakey wrote:
CURLY wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:Most of the frees they got were there. Some we didn't get were there as well.

Why complain about the umps? They didn't cost us the game!
Because they were shithouse. To many poor call against us in one game to ignore
I've watched the game again, and they weren't that bad. Obviously the holding the ball interpretation has changed this week!
No the interpretation was the same for West Coast.


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Post: # 1551235Post ROLS-LEE »

Enrico_Misso wrote:West Coast are the "best" club in the competition for milking free kicks.
This goes back more than a decade.
Almost every year they are in top three clubs for favourable free kicks differential, and over the decade are miles in front.
(There was a thread on this a couple of years ago and WCE had a cumulative free kick differential of several hundred - miles ahead of second place, whilst we were well in the negative).
Check their free kick tallies - most weeks they get at least 5 more, today it was a lazy 8.

Who could forget our game against them a couple of years ago at Docklands when the umpires got them up with a string a outright dodgy free kicks in the last quarter!!!
http://m.afl.com.au/stats?#sclub

This shows that we are the worst side for frees against. We have given away almost 20 more frees than the next team. Eagles give away the least. Almost 80 frees difference


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Post: # 1551245Post Jacks Back »

WE (ST KILDA) MUST LAUNCH AN OFFICIAL COMPLIANT ON THE OFFICIATING OFFICIALS TODAY.

It didn't cost us the game but it is just utter crap that the "interpretations" only went one way today.


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Post: # 1551251Post samuraisaint »

Didn't cost us the game, but the umpiring was disgustingly one sided today. If umpiring the standard it was today was against the Eagles and the game was at Subiaco, the umps would be lucky to leave without getting their entire bodies covered in spit as they tried to exit the arena.
The Eagles are an atrocious side to watch as they dive and milk for frees each week. They should play their games in a pond and change their name to the West Coast Ducks.


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Post: # 1551270Post jonesy »

Disgusting and embarassing.

My girlfriend grew up in a 3rd world country with 3rd world corruption. She can only put what happens to us as to what happens in South East Asia .

Disgusting and embarassing for a supposed 'professional' comp... They've all got to to go


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Post: # 1551271Post Con Gorozidis »

samuraisaint wrote:Didn't cost us the game, but the umpiring was disgustingly one sided today. If umpiring the standard it was today was against the Eagles and the game was at Subiaco, the umps would be lucky to leave without getting their entire bodies covered in spit as they tried to exit the arena.
The Eagles are an atrocious side to watch as they dive and milk for frees each week. They should play their games in a pond and change their name to the West Coast Ducks.
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