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Changes v Bombers

Post: # 1544550Post kosifantutti »

@AFL_PKeane: StKilda v Ess;
Weller, Webster, Hickey, Acres, McKenzie in for Wright, Saad.
Kavanagh, J Merrett, Fantasia, Langford in for Chapman.


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In
Weller Webster Hickey Acres McKenzie

Out
Saad Wright


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Sean Dempster Luke Delaney Jarryn Geary
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Shane Savage Sam Fisher Jack Newnes
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Dylan Roberton David Armitage Jack Sinclair
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Jack Billings Josh Bruce Luke Dunstan
F
Daniel McKenzie Tim Membrey Jack Lonie
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Billy Longer Maverick Weller Jack Steven
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Tom Hickey Blake Acres Adam Schneider Tom Curren Jimmy Webster Paddy McCartin Cameron Shenton (Three to be omitted)
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Maverick Weller Jimmy Webster Tom Hickey Blake Acres Daniel McKenzie
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Nathan Wright (Omitted) Ahmed Saad (Omitted)
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As currently selected, that is a horribly short forward line.


Roo back for the Dogs game we presume?
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Interesting to see of the new 5 named who plays ?

Weller for Curren
McKenzie for Shenton
Webster for Wright
Hickey for McCartin
Acres for Sinclair (Rest only)


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WinnersOnly wrote:Interesting to see of the new 5 named who plays ?

Weller for Curren
McKenzie for Shenton
Webster for Wright
Hickey for McCartin
Acres for Sinclair (Rest only)
Saad is already out...so Sinclair stays


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Post: # 1544559Post Austinnn »

Weller and McKenzie have gone straight into the team I see. You'd imagine that Curren might get dropped, but they'll probably keep Schneider for the experience.

Will they go for Hickey and Longer and give McCartin a spell? Will Shenton get another chance or will Webster be deemed ready? Surely they won't both play. Will Acres be the sub?

Interesting game this Sunday, lets hope another blowout can be avoided.


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I like the ins. We get a bit of speed in and good ball use in. Can't argue with Saad and Wright out. Newnes takes Wrights running back role if he lines up on HB. Come on Richo - be brave - Shenton, Schneider and Curren out and lets take the game on. WE can't afford to get locked in our back half again - we have to fire shots the other way even if it goes haywire sometimes.


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Curren, Shenton, and McCartin the most likely to step aside.


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saintsRrising wrote:
WinnersOnly wrote:Interesting to see of the new 5 named who plays ?

Weller for Curren
McKenzie for Shenton
Webster for Wright
Hickey for McCartin
Acres for Sinclair (Rest only)[/quote

Saad is already out...so Sinclair stays
True - thats good I love Sinclair!


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Curren, Shenton, and McCartin the most likely to step aside.


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Post: # 1544567Post mad saint guy »

I like the ins and also the faith/positivity shown towards McKenzie, Sinclair and Lonie by naming them on the ground. I imagine McCartin will be cut tomorrow and that they've named him in the 25 so it's a more low-key demotion when the final team is announced. I also like the fact that Schneider and Shenton have both been put on notice, even if they make the cut. I'd like to see Acres, Hickey, Webster on the bench and Schneider as sub. Curren isn't productive enough in his current role, Paddy is a few years off and Shenton's strengths don't outweigh his 2-3 shocking clangers each week.


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saintsRrising wrote:As currently selected, that is a horribly short forward line.


Roo back for the Dogs game we presume?
Roo trained at about 80% Did a few sprints and participated in match simulation. The problem is he missed quite a few sessions earlier this season so he hasn't got a full preparation under his belt. Pulled up ok. Mav will still have another test. Joey trained full on and was doing fast laps at the end with no apparent soreness, surprised he wasn't picked. Minch has a bit of calf tightness but trained. Marksworth was on the track for an hour or so doing fast track work. Both Farren and Seb participated in the match simulation but obviously didn't go full tilt. As did Sippa. Sammy did slow laps and Payney was working his arse off doing fast lap work as well.
And as I said on a previous post Spencer was worked hard and was getting continuous encouragement and advice from both coaches and players. Where and when to run to is his main problem.


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Geez I feel for Josh Bruce if McCartin is omitted. Will be a tiny forward line.

Would like Webster to have another run in the twos. Went well but looked like he was spent when he came to the bench.

McKenzie deserves his promotion and would start him in the team ahead of Acres who could be a sub. Having Acres start with would make us a very one paced inside mid brigade with Armo and Dunstan there.

For team balance I would have McCartin left in and McKenzie and Webster (if chosen) in the stating line up. Otherwise we will have a tiny forward setup, and a one paced midfield. the team would look very unbalanced


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tony74 wrote:Spencer was worked hard and was getting continuous encouragement and advice from both coaches and players. Where and when to run to is his main problem.
This is interesting, Tony. A question for you: In terms of his development in that regard, on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being a noob like Holmes, 10 being a 3rd year AFL footballer, where do you reckon Spencer is? Where would you put McCartin on the same scale, by way of contrast?
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Still no Roo. Brain surgeons who passed him fit to play round 3 should be questioned. It's now cost a month, minimum. So disappointing. The same guys who allowed Montagna to play round 1 I suppose. Wont mention Gilbert. Rookieish at best.

Great to see some young blokes back though. Acres and McKenzie, in particular, aerned their call up.


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Bunk_Moreland wrote:Geez I feel for Josh Bruce if McCartin is omitted. Will be a tiny forward line.

Would like Webster to have another run in the twos. Went well but looked like he was spent when he came to the bench.

McKenzie deserves his promotion and would start him in the team ahead of Acres who could be a sub. Having Acres start with would make us a very one paced inside mid brigade with Armo and Dunstan there.

For team balance I would have McCartin left in and McKenzie and Webster (if chosen) in the stating line up. Otherwise we will have a tiny forward setup, and a one paced midfield. the team would look very unbalanced
If Paddy is out, no doubt Hickey will be in. I agree about Webster, got a feeling its line ball between he and Shenton for the coaches.


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Bunk_Moreland wrote:Geez I feel for Josh Bruce if McCartin is omitted. Will be a tiny forward line.

Would like Webster to have another run in the twos. Went well but looked like he was spent when he came to the bench.

McKenzie deserves his promotion and would start him in the team ahead of Acres who could be a sub. Having Acres start with would make us a very one paced inside mid brigade with Armo and Dunstan there.

For team balance I would have McCartin left in and McKenzie and Webster (if chosen) in the stating line up. Otherwise we will have a tiny forward setup, and a one paced midfield. the team would look very unbalanced
Webster has to play, we need his kicking skills desperately, he has had 2 full weeks of match practice plus he had a hand injury and has been running constantly through the rehab so hasn't lost much aerobic fitness. He has to replace Shenton.
Acres for Curren
Hickey for McCartin, Bruce to play permanent forward.
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OK so McKenzie a lock to debut.
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Austinnn wrote:
tony74 wrote:Spencer was worked hard and was getting continuous encouragement and advice from both coaches and players. Where and when to run to is his main problem.
This is interesting, Tony. A question for you: In terms of his development in that regard, on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being a noob like Holmes, 10 being a 3rd year AFL footballer, where do you reckon Spencer is? Where would you put McCartin on the same scale, by way of contrast?
Great question. Rather than development I consider it more like a "natural" footballer.
Holmes. 1
Spencer. 6
McCartin. 9
Fisher. 10


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BringBackMadDog wrote:
Bunk_Moreland wrote:Geez I feel for Josh Bruce if McCartin is omitted. Will be a tiny forward line.

Would like Webster to have another run in the twos. Went well but looked like he was spent when he came to the bench.

McKenzie deserves his promotion and would start him in the team ahead of Acres who could be a sub. Having Acres start with would make us a very one paced inside mid brigade with Armo and Dunstan there.

For team balance I would have McCartin left in and McKenzie and Webster (if chosen) in the stating line up. Otherwise we will have a tiny forward setup, and a one paced midfield. the team would look very unbalanced
Webster has to play, we need his kicking skills desperately, he has had 2 full weeks of match practice plus he had a hand injury and has been running constantly through the rehab so hasn't lost much aerobic fitness. He has to replace Shenton.
Acres for Curren
Hickey for McCartin, Bruce to play permanent forward.
Schneider to play as sub
I thought Shenton was pretty good the last few weeks. Webster hasn't had a break out game yet and I'm worried the hype is getting beyond where he currently sits. He will cop it from the fans if he doesn't live up to expectations. Being up against Essendon first game back might be a tough assignment.


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tony74 wrote:Great question. Rather than development I consider it more like a "natural" footballer.
Holmes. 1
Spencer. 6
McCartin. 9
Fisher. 10
Thanks mate! Your answer is very illuminating. It certainly answers one side of things. I'm interested in Spencer's progression, so going back to my scale, are you saying that McCartin doesn't need much of a tweak to become as effective as a 10 game vet like Fisher, but Spencer will need much more work?

Plugger66 assumes he'll be cut at season's end because of the nature of his contract extention; how likely is it at this stage that he'll develop sufficiently to be kept on after September? You talked about his sence of where and when to run, does that mean other issues such as his endurance and determination are deemed satisfactory at this stage?

Interesting also that you used Fisher as an example of a natural footballer: do you consider him to be the most natural on our list? It's particuarly interesting due to the nature of his background: wasn't he drafted late, as a 24 year old who was borderline golf pro, or have I got my wires crossed?


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Post: # 1544594Post Con Gorozidis »

Changes are good ones.
Saad just not getting enough ball and Wrighty just butchering it too much.

All the 'Ins' seem fairly obvious.


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Post: # 1544599Post Junction Oval »

Without Rooey, the Hickey/McCartin choice is the key one for Sunday. Can Hickey's height impact the forward line? Can Bruce and Membery be influential enough, or would McCartin add to a more balanced forward set-up?

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Love it if all the 5 ins played. By I suspect AR will go soft and only make 2 changes.


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