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Post: # 1543714Post older saint »

Im Guessing Roo and Monty not fit . Need a balance as we have seen how going too young can smash kids development ( ala Melbourne).

I would think perhaps

Out: Saad, McCartin, Curren

In: Weller , Hickey, Acres

Goddard could possibly come in also and dempster moves to that smaller back role as opposed to 3rd tall if Roberton doesn't come up.

Lots wanting Membery out, but he is our work horse across half forward , hard lead ups and back and up again. Allows Bruce and Patty ( this week) to stay closer to goal. I like his work rate and link play He is young ( for a big) and has a work rate so must be persisted with.

Cant just give games to players because of their birth certificates.


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Post: # 1543720Post Con Gorozidis »

Acres and Webster simply have to come in. Cannot contemplate otherwise.


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Post: # 1543723Post Con Gorozidis »

older saint wrote:Im Guessing Roo and Monty not fit . Need a balance as we have seen how going too young can smash kids development ( ala Melbourne).

I would think perhaps

Out: Saad, McCartin, Curren

In: Weller , Hickey, Acres

Goddard could possibly come in also and dempster moves to that smaller back role as opposed to 3rd tall if Roberton doesn't come up.

Lots wanting Membery out, but he is our work horse across half forward , hard lead ups and back and up again. Allows Bruce and Patty ( this week) to stay closer to goal. I like his work rate and link play He is young ( for a big) and has a work rate so must be persisted with.

Cant just give games to players because of their birth certificates.
Webster simply has to come in and Webster isnt even that young.
Dempster cant play on smalls or talls - only mediums.

IN: Webster, Acres, Hickey, Weller
OUT: Saad, Paddy, Curren, (one of Shenton, Dempster, Wright)

Also think McKenzie is very very close so Newnes and Geary are on notice.


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Post: # 1543724Post Con Gorozidis »

older saint wrote: Cant just give games to players because of their birth certificates.

Also cant pick them because they used to be good in 2010.


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Post: # 1543771Post 8856brother »

From what I saw at Willy today I would give Acres his chance. Webster for sure. No one else really knocked the door down. Maybe Eli for Saad. Minch didn't play so not sure what the go is there.
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Post: # 1543774Post crippsy »

Fyi david armitage is 4th in disposals in the competetion

J steven is 38th then daylight till shane savage in the 70's

actually believe they are having a good season it is clearly the rest of the team that needs to lift


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Post: # 1543779Post Old Mate »

crippsy wrote:Fyi david armitage is 4th in disposals in the competetion

J steven is 38th then daylight till shane savage in the 70's

actually believe they are having a good season it is clearly the rest of the team that needs to lift
Steven also leads the league in tackles


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Post: # 1543784Post Goose is king »

Four games in and a couple of bigger losses it's time to shift out a couple. Saad needs to play for Sandy with his equivalent TDL. Just not enough goals, possessions or pressure.
One of Membrey or McCartin could make way.
I think it's time for Hickey and Longer to play together even though from reports Hickey struggled today in tough conditions
Any of Minch, Eli or Acres would make me happy as ins too


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Post: # 1543802Post BringBackMadDog »

After watching today's sandy game I would make the following changes
Out Saad, curran, Shenton, wright
In Weller, acres, Webster, Saunders

Paddy and membrey has to play until roo is back as we have no viable options at sandy.
Goddard and Dmac will be in the seniors before too long


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Post: # 1543804Post ShanghaiSaint »

word over at BF is Minch hurt himself training, if he's ok i would like to see him in for Saad. otherwise Eli for Saad


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Post: # 1543834Post borderbarry »

I thought Dan McKenzie was one of the best for Sandy! And did'nt Goddard also play well?
Why no support for these two? McKenzie sounds lile he is in front of Acres at this point.


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I don't know who should come in but I want 3 maybe 4 changes. We need some rotation into the side. AR is ultra conservative re changes unlike most coaches.


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Post: # 1543838Post spert »

saintspremiers wrote:I don't know who should come in but I want 3 maybe 4 changes. We need some rotation into the side. AR is ultra conservative re changes unlike most coaches.
AR should be rotating young players through the team at every opportunity this season to see how they fit into the structure and how they cope at this level, and as a coach should be experimenting as much as possible.. though I wouldn't hold my breath.


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spert wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:I don't know who should come in but I want 3 maybe 4 changes. We need some rotation into the side. AR is ultra conservative re changes unlike most coaches.
AR should be rotating young players through the team at every opportunity this season to see how they fit into the structure and how they cope at this level, and as a coach should be experimenting as much as possible.. though I wouldn't hold my breath.
Agreed AR's selection history this year is minimal changes...think he needs to start phasing out some of the senior players but he simply doesnt have the cattle. How players like Simpkin, Saad, Sipposs, Markworth etc remain on our list when they cant even dominate VFL or stay on the park is beyond comprehension!

Saints did the right thing in moving on Pelchen as although he did some good things (long term plan) he also stuffed a number of recruiting list management decisions IMO !


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Post: # 1543855Post bigballs »

borderbarry wrote:I thought Dan McKenzie was one of the best for Sandy! And did'nt Goddard also play well?
Why no support for these two? McKenzie sounds lile he is in front of Acres at this point.
I'm sure Richo would be keeping a watchful eye on both McKenzie and Goddard.

It won't be long before both of them make their debuts in my opinion.


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Post: # 1543858Post mad saint guy »

It does sound like Roo and Joey won't get up for this week. I'd really like to see Minchington in but no mention of him from the Sandy game suggests he won't get his chance this week. I'd hope for something like this

Out: McCartin, Curren, Saad, Shenton, Schneider, Geary
In: Hickey, Weller, Acres, Webster, Minchington, McKenzie

I'm braced for something like this

Out: Curren
In: Weller


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In: Goddard, McKenzie, Webster, Acres, Lee, Hickey, Minchington (Weller, Roo and Joey instead of Lee Hickey and Minch if fit)

Out: Wright, Shenton, Curren, Saad, Paddy, Roberton, Sinclair

Would look better if this happend.


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Post: # 1543863Post Middo »

Not sure why Sinclair would go ,I know he had a quiet game but a couple of goals from a first year player is gold....
Has hit the scoreboard in each game played.


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Post: # 1543867Post coopergrech »

Middo wrote:Not sure why Sinclair would go ,I know he had a quiet game but a couple of goals from a first year player is gold....
Has hit the scoreboard in each game played.

I agree but someone needs to go to put those guys in, and unfortuanenty he's the next cab off the rank.


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Post: # 1543873Post plugger66 »

All these changes for guys who just played in the VFL and got smashed. Maybe we nearly had our best side out there on Saturday and we aren't good enough yet.


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coopergrech wrote:
Middo wrote:Not sure why Sinclair would go ,I know he had a quiet game but a couple of goals from a first year player is gold....
Has hit the scoreboard in each game played.

I agree but someone needs to go to put those guys in, and unfortuanenty he's the next cab off the rank.
Stupid


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Post: # 1543887Post Sainternist »

magnifisaint wrote:I reckon Saady has a better chance if he goes on Masterchef.
I don't rate him either. The feel-good story of his return has come to its conclusion. He has to shape up or ship out.


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Post: # 1543907Post Con Gorozidis »

plugger66 wrote:All these changes for guys who just played in the VFL and got smashed. Maybe we nearly had our best side out there on Saturday and we aren't good enough yet.
So you ignore the Collingwood game and the VFL performance against the Bombers then? You cant have it both ways.


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Post: # 1543908Post Con Gorozidis »

ShanghaiSaint wrote:word over at BF is Minch hurt himself training, if he's ok i would like to see him in for Saad. otherwise Eli for Saad
Talk about bad luck.
It seems Saad is the luckiest bloke of all time and the Minch cant take a trick.
Lets hope that changes.


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Post: # 1543909Post FQF »

Con Gorozidis wrote:
ShanghaiSaint wrote:word over at BF is Minch hurt himself training, if he's ok i would like to see him in for Saad. otherwise Eli for Saad
Talk about bad luck.
It seems Saad is the luckiest bloke of all time and the Minch cant take a trick.
Lets hope that changes.
Saad does not need to be swapped for another small forward. It's not like we don't have enough already in the team with Lonie, Schneider and Sinclair.

Out: Saad
In: Acres/Eli/Saunders/McKenzie/Webster

All of the above offer more.


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