Thugg Bugg cleared

[saintspremiers]

Accidental contact with Roo.

No charges laid.

Discuss.

[ozrulestrace]

Quel surprise!

I knew that would be the end result.


I'm even more glad that Josh Bruce and I think Joey squared up on him.

[plugger66]

Looked like an accident to me. Obviously on a Saints site you cant say that so I will go with corrupt everything.

[saintspremiers]

Looked like an accident to me. Obviously on a Saints site you cant say that so I will go with corrupt everything.

Good boy. You are learning!

[CURLY]

Looked like an accident to me. Obviously on a Saints site you cant say that so I will go with corrupt everything.

Triple M saying behind the goals footage looked bad for Bugg. Don't know why they looked at apparently you can charge into a players back these days.

[Bunk_Moreland]

Looked like he had his eyes on the ball and accidentally cannoned into the back of Riewoldt.

But then again Farmer runs into Baker and Baker got 7 weeks.

Maybe Riewoldt will get cited

[plugger66]

Looked like an accident to me. Obviously on a Saints site you cant say that so I will go with corrupt everything.

Triple M saying behind the goals footage looked bad for Bugg. Don't know why they looked at apparently you can charge into a players back these days.

Its corruption. They want us out of the AFL. Im just unsure how not suspending Bugg helps us get out of the AFL. Anyway the 6 or so who commented on SEN thought he would get off. Patrick Smith didn't comment because they went onto to something else but by the sounds of it he thought he should be suspended. Actually Martin Blake thought it was a suspendable incident as well.

[BringBackMadDog]

Looked like an accident to me. Obviously on a Saints site you cant say that so I will go with corrupt everything.

Triple M saying behind the goals footage looked bad for Bugg. Don't know why they looked at apparently you can charge into a players back these days.

According to the full report, they looked at the downfield views. The one thing that makes me believe if was accidental contact was the fact that he made chest in contact with Roo, if he intentionally meant to crash into him you would've thought that he would have turned side on and got him with his shoulder to protect himself

[Bunk_Moreland]

Looked like an accident to me. Obviously on a Saints site you cant say that so I will go with corrupt everything.

Triple M saying behind the goals footage looked bad for Bugg. Don't know why they looked at apparently you can charge into a players back these days.

According to the full report, they looked at the downfield views. The one thing that makes me believe if was accidental contact was the fact that he made chest in contact with Roo, if he intentionally meant to crash into him you would've thought that he would have turned side on and got him with his shoulder to protect himself

Yeah - probably.

Still I liked the fact Bruce and Weller squared up on Bugg. Shows the kids that their back is covered if an opposition player hits them with what they see as a cheap shot

[PJ]

Don't know about the corruption theories but the interpretation of "accidental" would seem a little lenient given the impact. Actually I'm not sure that the use of accidental is even appropriate give no one knows what he was thinking Tribunal should steer clear of interpreting intension all together unless of course it's deliberate aggression. The decision should consider the outcome and ability to avoid contact if indeed they consider he didn't intend the contact.

[samuraisaint]

It should at least have been a free kick to Riewoldt - and then taken by the closest St Kilda player. Had that happened the whole complexion of the outcome of the game. I don't think we would've won though.
Look, accidental contact can be bad too, but there is no doubt that the umpires absolutely sucked yesterday. Some of the ducking of the head paid as to high were laughable for starters.

[BringBackMadDog]

It should at least have been a free kick to Riewoldt - and then taken by the closest St Kilda player. Had that happened the whole complexion of the outcome of the game. I don't think we would've won though.
Look, accidental contact can be bad too, but there is no doubt that the umpires absolutely sucked yesterday. Some of the ducking of the head paid as to high were laughable for starters.

Yep, it had to be a free kick

[plugger66]

It should at least have been a free kick to Riewoldt - and then taken by the closest St Kilda player. Had that happened the whole complexion of the outcome of the game. I don't think we would've won though.
Look, accidental contact can be bad too, but there is no doubt that the umpires absolutely sucked yesterday. Some of the ducking of the head paid as to high were laughable for starters.

Yep, it had to be a free kick

Of course it should have been a free.

[Hallalj#3]

Saw a different angle just now, it showed it wasn't deliberate free kick nothing else.. Let's move on.

[gringo]

I wasn't convinced it was intentional but was convinced that the umpires needed drug testing after missing the free kick. The one earlier that they missed when his defender punched his head instead of the ball was pretty bad too.

[mr six o'clock]

It happened right in front of me , I just thought it was another case of roo being taken out of a contest .
I did worry when he didn't get up .
It did look worse on the replay from the other side .

Would Roo think he the softest target in the AFL ?
Over his entire career he has been pollaxed so many times , it amazing he can still walk .
Yet the players who attempt to end his day/ career never seem to cop any penalty .

Deledio gets 2 weeks down to 1 with a early plea for rough conduct but bugg gets nothing when he looked to have used twice the force that delidio did .
Still this will be the usual first of many MRP decisions that don't make sense this year !

[Con Gorozidis]

Did look like Bugg was watching the ball and Roo backed back. Looked like an accident.
Im still fuming over no free kick at Lonie with 12m to go.

[8856brother]

Saw a different angle just now, it showed it wasn't deliberate free kick nothing else.. Let's move on.

With all due respect, most commentators on the Monday night shows disagree with you except for Whateley. He knew exactly what he was donig imo.

[saynta]

I wasn't convinced it was intentional but was convinced that the umpires needed drug testing after missing the free kick. The one earlier that they missed when his defender punched his head instead of the ball was pretty bad too.

Even Eddie everywhere reckons we were hard done by by the umpires in the last few minutes of the game.. They missed Roo's free and one to Lonie, plus the really suss one they gave up the other end that resulted in the giants last goal. as i said in another thread chalk up the 4 points to the maggots.

Roo could have been given another two frees as well.

[matrix]

shoudve got a free maybe
dunno

its done and dusted, he is fine, we lost
bring on gold coast

[St Chris]

The only was to look at this and keep your sanity is this....

They've cleared Bugg knowing full well the way the system is set up, he probably walks anyway - the contact was maybe medium, no high contact, ball was close enough to be called in play, etc.

But they know full well it was a bit of a dogs act, so they've turned a blind eye to the square-ups and made no mention of retaliations from Bruce, Montagna and others. There was one beauty that Joey got in about 80m behind the play on the outer wing that nobody spotted, among others.

If the trade off is that Bugg walks, but we have all of our boys available next week, then I'd take that every day.

[Bunk_Moreland]

There was one beauty that Joey got in about 80m behind the play on the outer wing that nobody spotted, among others.

yeah I noticed that. Well done.

Regardless of the outcome Bugg needs to be reminded that he is a sniper from now on - even if it is not true, perception is reality, us against them etc.

[ozrulestrace]

There was one beauty that Joey got in about 80m behind the play on the outer wing that nobody spotted, among others.

yeah I noticed that. Well done.

Regardless of the outcome Bugg needs to be reminded that he is a sniper from now on - even if it is not true, perception is reality, us against them etc.

I saw it with Bugg on his hands and knees with Joey walking off.

I'm surprised the MRP didn't ping him for that.

[gringo]

There was one beauty that Joey got in about 80m behind the play on the outer wing that nobody spotted, among others.

yeah I noticed that. Well done.

Regardless of the outcome Bugg needs to be reminded that he is a sniper from now on - even if it is not true, perception is reality, us against them etc.

I saw it with Bugg on his hands and knees with Joey walking off.

I'm surprised the MRP didn't ping him for that.

Yeah, I heard some one say Montagna had given him a whack. I saw him doubled over but didn't see it.

[Dr Spaceman]

The only was to look at this and keep your sanity is this....

They've cleared Bugg knowing full well the way the system is set up, he probably walks anyway - the contact was maybe medium, no high contact, ball was close enough to be called in play, etc.

But they know full well it was a bit of a dogs act, so they've turned a blind eye to the square-ups and made no mention of retaliations from Bruce, Montagna and others. There was one beauty that Joey got in about 80m behind the play on the outer wing that nobody spotted, among others.

If the trade off is that Bugg walks, but we have all of our boys available next week, then I'd take that every day.

Good perspective