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Post: # 1521835Post Dave McNamara »

Bernard Shakey wrote: The place is also full of tourists, who don't know why they're there, and wouldn't have a clue who the Saints are.
And this is exactly what we can leverage into Bernard! :D :idea:

A meal, a band, a dance, etc in the social club.
An 'introduction to Aussie Rules' clinic.
Tickets to a game/s.
Create a special OS membership category.
Big screen in the middle of the oval showing an interstate game, maybe even followed by a movie,
with community groups running food stalls, whatever...

It's called inserting our club a part of the tourists' wonderful Australian experience and memories. :idea:

We are then remembered, and followed from afar. And they will tell their mates, some of whom will want to come and also experience what their mates experienced. If OS tourists can have 'Neighbours' ( :roll: ) and 'Secret Life of Us' tours as part of their 'must do' itinerary, we can become something similar.

And basically the same approach can apply to interstate and local visitors. It's a numbers game. If one in a hundred tourists is hooked as above, then from little things, humongous things can be grown. And only our iconic funky suburb of St Kilda offers this opportunity to its footy club.


Hey, I'm not in marketing or sales. So if I can come up with those ideas, just imagine what real marketing people could come up with.

The wonderful wayward unconventional St Kilda footy club, back home in our icon suburb that is St Kilda. Promoting that would be a marketers dream! 8-)


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Post: # 1521839Post plugger66 »

Dave McNamara wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote: The place is also full of tourists, who don't know why they're there, and wouldn't have a clue who the Saints are.
And this is exactly what we can leverage into Bernard! :D :idea:

A meal, a band, a dance, etc in the social club.
An 'introduction to Aussie Rules' clinic.
Tickets to a game/s.
Create a special OS membership category.
Big screen in the middle of the oval showing an interstate game, maybe even followed by a movie,
with community groups running food stalls, whatever...

It's called inserting our club a part of the tourists' wonderful Australian experience and memories. :idea:

We are then remembered, and followed from afar. And they will tell their mates, some of whom will want to come and also experience what their mates experienced. If OS tourists can have 'Neighbours' ( :roll: ) and 'Secret Life of Us' tours as part of their 'must do' itinerary, we can become something similar.

And basically the same approach can apply to interstate and local visitors. It's a numbers game. If one in a hundred tourists is hooked as above, then from little things, humongous things can be grown. And only our iconic funky suburb of St Kilda offers this opportunity to its footy club.


Hey, I'm not in marketing or sales. So if I can come up with those ideas, just imagine what real marketing people could come up with.

The wonderful wayward unconventional St Kilda footy club, back home in our icon suburb that is St Kilda. Promoting that would be a marketers dream! 8-)

Why the hell would anyone apart from saints supporters go to a social club in St Kilda when there are so many other options there. Without being rude Dave I don't think you get the people who hang around that area. They aren't go to a boring social club. More hope of that in suburbia. Using words like funky and groovy mean jack s***. I must say im glad you aren't involved in marketing at our club.


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Post: # 1521840Post Dave McNamara »

Great posts Loris, Avid and Mini'! :D


And thanks Loris, I shall try and chase down that book.
(And 'Eureka Street is still going strong. http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/
The likes of P66, Sting, Harry, HS, Gaz, BM, actually both BMs, and GO, are all readers. :wink: )


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Dave McNamara wrote:Great posts Loris, Avid and Mini'! :D


And thanks Loris, I shall try and chase down that book.
(And 'Eureka Street is still going strong. http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/
The likes of P66, Sting, Harry, HS, Gaz, BM, actually both BMs, and GO, are all readers. :wink: )
I couldn't give a stuff about St Kilda, the suburb so don't speak for me.


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plugger66 wrote:
Dave McNamara wrote:Great posts Loris, Avid and Mini'! :D


And thanks Loris, I shall try and chase down that book.
(And 'Eureka Street is still going strong. http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/
The likes of P66, Sting, Harry, HS, Gaz, BM, actually both BMs, and GO, are all readers. :wink: )
I couldn't give a stuff about St Kilda, the suburb so don't speak for me.
I was talking about 'Eureka Street', actually... :P


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Dave McNamara wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Dave McNamara wrote:Great posts Loris, Avid and Mini'! :D


And thanks Loris, I shall try and chase down that book.
(And 'Eureka Street is still going strong. http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/
The likes of P66, Sting, Harry, HS, Gaz, BM, actually both BMs, and GO, are all readers. :wink: )
I couldn't give a stuff about St Kilda, the suburb so don't speak for me.
I was talking about 'Eureka Street', actually... :P

Never heard of it. Is it in Ballarat because that's another place I couldn't give a rats about.


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Its a religious online magazine Plugger.


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Austinnn wrote:Its a religious online magazine Plugger.

Even more reason to know nothing about it.


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Dave McNamara wrote:Great posts Loris, Avid and Mini'! :D


And thanks Loris, I shall try and chase down that book.
(And 'Eureka Street is still going strong. http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/
The likes of P66, Sting, Harry, HS, Gaz, BM, actually both BMs, and GO, are all readers. :wink: )
Thanks Davey Mac for the link to acquaint me once more with Eureka street.

Having a little browse around the site I came across a beautiful article from the wonderful Brian Matthews I had been referring t0 in the earlier post - Matthews has lost non of his erudite ways in prose - his article on How Phillip Hughes' death moved the nation is sensitive and educative in examining the reaction to such a tragedy.

here is the link: http://eurekastreet.com.au/article.aspx?aeid=42269#.


Matthews' ending to his article is so poignant in it's starkness ...... possibly attempting to answer the great poets/writers take on death that he quotes in the article.

"Eloquent? Certainly - Death haunts the newspapers and the airwaves. Just? Not at all. Mighty? Unfortunately, yes - and every now and then, such as during the past week, we cower and weep before Death's indiscriminating might."

Leave it with you Davey Mac.


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loris wrote:
Also another of his books worth a read is one on the MCG............... can't quite recall its title at the moment......... its hidden gathering dust in one of my many bookshelves............. title is something like 'The Paddock on the Hill'............... I'll let you know correct title when I find it........... or remember it. Gee this getting old, really puts a strain on the memory cells!!!!
Found it Davey Mac............. it's full of dust and yellowing around the edges of the pages, hidden amongst a multitude of cricket books I possess The title is:

'The Temple Down the Road' by Brian Matthews.

Ofcourse the opening chapter to this book on the MCG is about the 1966 Grand Final............. true Sainter is Brian Matthews. Brings in the Saints at any point he can :wink:


Avid

The book you were referring to is: Oval Dreams: Larrikin Essays on Sport and Low Culture.

I'll have to chase that one up...... thanks for the heads up on it.


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"Message to St Kilda: hands off the Junction Oval" by Dean Jones.

"Would St Kilda and its supporters really be happy moving from a dedicated football facility (first at Moorabbin and now in Seaford) to become a second-fiddle sub-tenant to cricket in Albert Park, with severely constrained land and no room for expansion?"
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/ ... 24pnm.html


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HitTheBoundary wrote:"Message to St Kilda: hands off the Junction Oval" by Dean Jones.

"Would St Kilda and its supporters really be happy moving from a dedicated football facility (first at Moorabbin and now in Seaford) to become a second-fiddle sub-tenant to cricket in Albert Park, with severely constrained land and no room for expansion?"
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/ ... 24pnm.html
Whatever the outcome, we can't stay at Seaford. Archie Fraser should be ashamed of himself for putting us in this situation. He should never be allowed to step into the St Kilda FC again.


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citywest wrote:
HitTheBoundary wrote:"Message to St Kilda: hands off the Junction Oval" by Dean Jones.

"Would St Kilda and its supporters really be happy moving from a dedicated football facility (first at Moorabbin and now in Seaford) to become a second-fiddle sub-tenant to cricket in Albert Park, with severely constrained land and no room for expansion?"
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/ ... 24pnm.html
Whatever the outcome, we can't stay at Seaford. Archie Fraser should be ashamed of himself for putting us in this situation. He should never be allowed to step into the St Kilda FC again.

Can you tell me how training at Seaford effects the people who watch games at Etihad?


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JO the Best option. :)


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plugger66 wrote:
citywest wrote: Whatever the outcome, we can't stay at Seaford. Archie Fraser should be ashamed of himself for putting us in this situation. He should never be allowed to step into the St Kilda FC again.
Can you tell me how training at Seaford effects the people who watch games at Etihad?

Matt Finnis CEO wrote:St Kilda is an iconic part of Melbourne which has an identifiable attitude and spirit that is really aligned with where we want to take the club. It is grounded but it is aspirational, it is eclectic, everyone belongs, and we say how do we capture that as an identity? It would be a good move on so many levels for the club.
You've proven that you have heaps to offer in various areas, but no offense P66, I'm very glad that you aren't responsible for the big picture/future directions planning at our Club.


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The Fireman wrote:JO the Best option. :)
What Firey said! :D



Reading that Dean Jones article, he misses the two key points that most critics of our move back home to JO seem to also miss.

1/ The many many mutual advantages of synergy...
several organizations working together to pool resources, talents, contacts, expertise and media exposure (to name just a few)...

2/ You can't play outdoors centre turf wicket cricket in the Melbs' winter! :idea:
(Ok, the Sri Lankans at Silverton State School oval aside. :lol: )

So why suddenly (suddenly, coz footy is currently played on JO) have an elite venue sitting idle over winter?

Elite cricket and elite footy codes share grounds all around the country.
(And lets not forget why Aussie Rules was created in the first place...? :idea: )


Mutual sharing for mutual benefits. Win-win. 8-)


It's Dave, man. Will you open up? I got the stuff with me! -------Who?
Dave, man. Open up ------------------------------------------ -----Dave???
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Dave McNamara wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
citywest wrote: Whatever the outcome, we can't stay at Seaford. Archie Fraser should be ashamed of himself for putting us in this situation. He should never be allowed to step into the St Kilda FC again.
Can you tell me how training at Seaford effects the people who watch games at Etihad?

Matt Finnis CEO wrote:St Kilda is an iconic part of Melbourne which has an identifiable attitude and spirit that is really aligned with where we want to take the club. It is grounded but it is aspirational, it is eclectic, everyone belongs, and we say how do we capture that as an identity? It would be a good move on so many levels for the club.
You've proven that you have heaps to offer in various areas, but no offense P66, I'm very glad that you aren't responsible for the big picture/future directions planning at our Club.

Can you tell me how Finnis statement proves my question isn't relevant? I can see the big picture. You see fantasyland as per your continued statements that we will play AFL footy at the JO even though not one person of note has ever said that and if anything have the complete opposite.


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Post: # 1521954Post citywest »

plugger66 wrote:
citywest wrote:
HitTheBoundary wrote:"Message to St Kilda: hands off the Junction Oval" by Dean Jones.

"Would St Kilda and its supporters really be happy moving from a dedicated football facility (first at Moorabbin and now in Seaford) to become a second-fiddle sub-tenant to cricket in Albert Park, with severely constrained land and no room for expansion?"
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/ ... 24pnm.html
Whatever the outcome, we can't stay at Seaford. Archie Fraser should be ashamed of himself for putting us in this situation. He should never be allowed to step into the St Kilda FC again.

Can you tell me how training at Seaford effects the people who watch games at Etihad?
It doesn't effect the people watching the games at Etihad. That is not what we are discussing here and if you haven't realized what we are discussing then go back and watch "Play School" on the ABC Mr. plugger66.


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Dave McNamara wrote:
The Fireman wrote:JO the Best option. :)
What Firey said! :D



Reading that Dean Jones article, he misses the two key points that most critics of our move back home to JO seem to also miss.

1/ The many many mutual advantages of synergy...
several organizations working together to pool resources, talents, contacts, expertise and media exposure (to name just a few)...

2/ You can't play outdoors centre turf wicket cricket in the Melbs' winter! :idea:
(Ok, the Sri Lankans at Silverton State School oval aside. :lol: )

So why suddenly (suddenly, coz footy is currently played on JO) have an elite venue sitting idle over winter?

Elite cricket and elite footy codes share grounds all around the country.
(And lets not forget why Aussie Rules was created in the first place...? :idea: )


Mutual sharing for mutual benefits. Win-win. 8-)
How does CV gain anything by us also using the facilities? There is no way footy will be played on the ground because it is CV ground, if built, and we are training over the road if we join them. Again what benefit does CV get. The answer is none if we played on the ground. Its actually a negative benefit. Please get real Dave and realise if we ever go to the JO it will be for the facilities and the training groun over the road.


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plugger66 wrote:
Dave McNamara wrote:
The Fireman wrote:JO the Best option. :)
What Firey said! :D



Reading that Dean Jones article, he misses the two key points that most critics of our move back home to JO seem to also miss.

1/ The many many mutual advantages of synergy...
several organizations working together to pool resources, talents, contacts, expertise and media exposure (to name just a few)...

2/ You can't play outdoors centre turf wicket cricket in the Melbs' winter! :idea:
(Ok, the Sri Lankans at Silverton State School oval aside. :lol: )

So why suddenly (suddenly, coz footy is currently played on JO) have an elite venue sitting idle over winter?

Elite cricket and elite footy codes share grounds all around the country.
(And lets not forget why Aussie Rules was created in the first place...? :idea: )


Mutual sharing for mutual benefits. Win-win. 8-)
How does CV gain anything by us also using the facilities? There is no way footy will be played on the ground because it is CV ground, if built, and we are training over the road if we join them. Again what benefit does CV get. The answer is none if we played on the ground. Its actually a negative benefit. Please get real Dave and realise if we ever go to the JO it will be for the facilities and the training groun over the road.
See point one above, P66.

That's the encapsulation of it. Other Saintsationalists and I have gone into way more detail in several other posts over several threads. And any competent professional marketing and promotions people would be able to have an absolute 'field day' coming up with plenty more ideas still.

It's not a contest with only one winner and one loser as the outcome. To the contrary, it's all about mutual synergies producing mutual benefits. Win-win.


It's Dave, man. Will you open up? I got the stuff with me! -------Who?
Dave, man. Open up ------------------------------------------ -----Dave???
Yeah, Dave. ---------------------------------------------------------Dave's not here.

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Dave McNamara wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Dave McNamara wrote:
The Fireman wrote:JO the Best option. :)
What Firey said! :D



Reading that Dean Jones article, he misses the two key points that most critics of our move back home to JO seem to also miss.

1/ The many many mutual advantages of synergy...
several organizations working together to pool resources, talents, contacts, expertise and media exposure (to name just a few)...

2/ You can't play outdoors centre turf wicket cricket in the Melbs' winter! :idea:
(Ok, the Sri Lankans at Silverton State School oval aside. :lol: )

So why suddenly (suddenly, coz footy is currently played on JO) have an elite venue sitting idle over winter?

Elite cricket and elite footy codes share grounds all around the country.
(And lets not forget why Aussie Rules was created in the first place...? :idea: )


Mutual sharing for mutual benefits. Win-win. 8-)
How does CV gain anything by us also using the facilities? There is no way footy will be played on the ground because it is CV ground, if built, and we are training over the road if we join them. Again what benefit does CV get. The answer is none if we played on the ground. Its actually a negative benefit. Please get real Dave and realise if we ever go to the JO it will be for the facilities and the training groun over the road.
See point one above, P66.

That's the encapsulation of it. Other Saintsationalists and I have gone into way more detail in several other posts over several threads. And any competent professional marketing and promotions people would be able to have an absolute 'field day' coming up with plenty more ideas still.

It's not a contest with only one winner and one loser as the outcome. To the contrary, it's all about mutual synergies producing mutual benefits. Win-win.

Words dave that mean nothing. How does us being at CV home ground help them Dodders said on radio the other day he would rather be on their own so he is against you and I reckon he knows a bit more about this than both of us.


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i have to agree 100% with jones

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/ ... 24pnm.html


"The previous state government already committed $8 million, which is in this year's budget, to redevelop Moorabbin as a football centre. The City of Kingston topped it up with a further $1.5 million. So there is already $9.5 million sitting there to redevelop Moorabbin as a dedicated football centre. So what do they want? Maybe this lack of direction and constant change is why St Kilda is languishing at the bottom of the AFL ladder.

The AFL have claimed they can raise $10 million to $20 million to make up the funding shortfall at the Junction Oval for a co-development, where they would be compromised day to day by sharing with cricket. Why don't they put the same (or less) money on top of that already committed to Moorabbin, and have the club as the primary tenant of a brilliant new, dedicated football base"


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stinger wrote:i have to agree 100% with jones
And P66. :mrgreen:


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Dave McNamara wrote:
stinger wrote:i have to agree 100% with jones
And P66. :mrgreen:
never mate never......that guy must be copying my ideas..


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stinger wrote:
Dave McNamara wrote:
stinger wrote:i have to agree 100% with jones
And P66. :mrgreen:
never mate never......that guy must be copying my ideas..

Dave is actually wrong. I have never said we shouldn't go back to the JO so luckily I don't agree with you Stinger. If I did I would attend a doctor.


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