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Post: # 1519250Post ace »

We have to get the ball to McCartin.
Next year we take the best midfielder with pick No 1.
Does anyone know his name ?


Give it a few years and we should be able to get Lachie Weller on a come home.


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Post: # 1519254Post Razor »

Very very happy with how the draft went. Really like all four players. Lonie looks like a star in the making. Should be a fan favourite. Our team is starting to take shape with the addition of key position players Mccartin and Godard. Mckenzie looks a gun as well and being a left footer is handy.


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Post: # 1519256Post cwrcyn »

Perhaps we shouldn't take too much from the highlights packages. Before last year's draft I saw Dunstan's highlights reel and it looked like nothing. When we drafted him my heart sank. How wrong I was. A thought for the McCartin doubters.


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Post: # 1519257Post Dis Believer »

Solar wrote:
Jacks Back wrote:Only one mid from 4 picks doesn't bode well for our centre clearances.
interesting we were the fourth best clearance team last year. So that is not a issue. Our run and carry is a big worry but can be fixed in the next draft. Long term drafting this.
Agreed, this screams of being part of a long term plan with an eye to what type of players are available in a number of drafts in a row, and not just jumping on whatever comes up with each year not considered in relation to other years.


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Bunk_Moreland wrote:
ace wrote:We have to get the ball to McCartin.
Next year we take the best midfielder with pick No 1.
Does anyone know his name ?
Draft - Parish and Mathesian

DFA or PSD - Treloar, Shiel

Well... if you want to draft Parish and Mathessan... then we want to OFFLOAD in a FA,

i.e. we need a club to want Armitage for 4 years on a Frawley sized contract, to get picks 1+2 next year
(or 2+3 or 3+4)

Bringing in a FA is only good idea once we start moving up the ladder.. think 2017


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Post: # 1519277Post Con Gorozidis »

We will have a red-hot go at Treloar or Shiel in 11 months time.


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Brett Anderson talking up our targeting of Treloar from GWS next year


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fingers wrote:Brett Anderson talking up our targeting of Treloar from GWS next year
a lot cheaper and a lot more important IMO.....
Add in parish and things look very good


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Jacks Back wrote:Only one mid from 4 picks doesn't bode well for our centre clearances.
eventually two mids.....lonie'stalent manager at the stingrays reckons that he will be ready to go through the midfield in 3 to 4 years time....


i would go for dylan hodge as our first rookie pick.....can't lose...


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Post: # 1519312Post fugazi »

Mids on the list:

Armo, Dunstan, Acres, Billings, Steven, Monty, Newnes, Wright, Weller, Ray, Murdoch, Curren, Savage....possibly Shenton, Webster, Templeton

and now McKenzie

Would have been nice to add the elite quality of Petracca, but get the best mid next year and we should find at least 8 - 10 very good players from the list above, only Monty is not a long term proposition.

IMO - I think Murdoch , Templeton and Acres will join Billings and Dunstan as A-grade players


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fugazi wrote:Mids on the list:

Armo, Dunstan, Acres, Billings, Steven, Monty, Newnes, Wright, Weller, Ray, Murdoch, Curren, Savage....possibly Shenton, Webster, Templeton

and now McKenzie

Would have been nice to add the elite quality of Petracca, but get the best mid next year and we should find at least 8 - 10 very good players from the list above, only Monty is not a long term proposition.

IMO - I think Murdoch , Templeton and Acres will join Billings and Dunstan as A-grade players
Ross? Saunders?


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Post: # 1519322Post fugazi »

yep, add them too...that's 19 to fit before we talk rookies


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Post: # 1519324Post footynut »

So why didnt we just trade pick 1 for Watts, or at least 4 & 7?


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ace wrote:We have to get the ball to McCartin.
Next year we take the best midfielder with pick No 1.
Does anyone know his name ?


Give it a few years and we should be able to get Lachie Weller on a come home.
one of these lads

Rhys Mathieson (Geelong Falcons)
The winner of the Kevin Sheehan Medal for the Best Player in Division 1 at the AFL U16 Championship, Mathieson is a tough inside ball winner who is a very capable goal-kicker as a forward. He’s been a very consistent performer for the Falcons and Vic Country, I expect that to continue next year. His biggest area for improvement is his outside game, which he will need to take to another level if he is to be a top 3 pick in the 2015 Draft.

Darcy Parish (Geelong Falcons)
A do-it-all midfielder for the Geelong Falcons, Darcy Parish can also play in defence. He’s very polished, but also quite quick. He hits the contest hard and has fantastic contested ball winning ability, but by far his biggest asset is his blend of inside grunt and outside polish. There aren’t too many players that can show both class when receiving and a rugged side like Parish. A bit like the Swans’ Isaac Heeney.


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Winner of the Calder Cannons Best & Fairest as a bottom-aged player, Nick O’Kearney was one of two players born in 1997 named on the 40-man Vic Metro squad in 2014. ‘The Running Man’ O’Kearney has fantastic endurance and a brilliant football brain, he just knows how, when and where to find the footy. He averaged 25 disposals and 5 clearances per game for the Calder Cannons in 2014 and is expected to produce similar numbers next year.


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Post: # 1519337Post Con Gorozidis »

footynut wrote:So why didnt we just trade pick 1 for Watts, or at least 4 & 7?
Watts? 41 maybe.

4 & 6 was Pickett and Ahern

look when all is said and done i feel like we did the right thing with pick 1.

petracca probably isnt even the best mid in this years draft (heeney probably is) - so using a pick on the the 2nd or 3rd best mid may have been a waste of pick 1.


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Parish and OKearny thanks


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Teflon wrote:Parish and OKearny thanks
how do we get 2?


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Congrats Saints you have done a fantastic job at the draft and lets hope these lads can develop into stars of the future!


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Post: # 1519427Post SuperDuper »

Gotta say.. I liked the attitude of both Goddard and McCartin..

McCartin really said the right things.. he gets nothing more or less than anyone else... if you are drafted 1 or 71, you have basically the same opportunity..

Goddard was in many peoples eyes a slider.. yet he was just happy to find a club.. no bruised ego.. again.. just wants an opportunity to try to make it..

I guess a reflection of Elshaugh's "good blokes" policy

lets hope they can also play!


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We have drafted for 3 or 4 years down the track. We have also ensure another 2 or 3 years on the bottom. May sound extreme but the players we got will have no real impact for at least 2 years. It is a very risky strategy but to me it is a risk worth taking after so many years failing to win a flag. It isn't a draft that will keep AR though. I see 3 years on the bottom and I doubt any coach can survive that.


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2015 Pick 1 and Free agency will set us free.


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SuperDuper wrote:Gotta say.. I liked the attitude of both Goddard and McCartin..

McCartin really said the right things.. he gets nothing more or less than anyone else... if you are drafted 1 or 71, you have basically the same opportunity..

Goddard was in many peoples eyes a slider.. yet he was just happy to find a club.. no bruised ego.. again.. just wants an opportunity to try to make it..

I guess a reflection of Elshaugh's "good blokes" policy

lets hope they can also play!
he gets paid more than pick 71 next year..a lot more


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My cousin Liam Duggan heading to Wet Toast lol


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Post: # 1519505Post stkfc1 »

Absolutely wrapped with what we got last night. Like a few others I was leaning towards Petracca, but it's funny, after watching interviews and learning a little more about the players personalities, I think we may have dogged a bullet with Petracca. Got a little too much arrogance and we've seen too may players of this type fall by the wayside once the reality of AFL football kicks in.Not wishing him any ill, just a gut feeling.Paddy really seems to have his head screwed on the right way. Goddard is a great get and DMac and Lonie are both solid pick ups.

The fact DMac tested so well at the combine shows, with the right application, he could be anything and Lonie has all the traits of one S.Milne (no pressure) :wink:

Also like the fact Paddy,HG and Lonie all played together at Vic Country. they would already have a good understanding of each others game which can only help when they are finally on the field together. Time will tell, of course, but I think we done good. Go Saints!


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