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21 Goddard WoooooHooooooo
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21 Goddard WoooooHooooooo
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major plus that one
I was wrong about 21 not getting a player that would excite us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was wrong about 21 not getting a player that would excite us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Has gotten me over by disappointment on PetraccaSobraz wrote:Massive result with Goddard.
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Re: Not long now! Pick #1 St.Kilda.........
11. Hugh Goddard (VIC – KPD/KPF)
Height: 196cm, Weight: 93kg, DOB: 24/08/1996
Recruited from: Geelong Falcons
Draft range: 6-20
Best position/role: Centre Half Back
Strengths:
Versatility – Goddard has demonstrated that he can play both back and forward well. As a key defender Goddard has demonstrated that he can significantly limit the impact of his direct opponent and at times provide rebound through taking numerous intercept marks and providing run and carry or using it well by foot when he gets his hands on it.As a forward he has shown that he can hit the scoreboard consistently and be an effective mark on the lead, in the air, 1v1 and take the occasional pack mark.
Strength and athleticism – Goddard is well built at 93kg already and has clearly put the time in through the gym and as a result in the contest he is very hard to beat 1v1 and often in the 1v1 contest takes the intercept mark. He also has an excellent mix of pace, agility and has an excellent leap which suggests that he has the ability as a key defender to become an effective shutdown player.
Ability to read the flight – Goddard shows excellent ability to read the flight of the ball both as a forward and when played down back. Down back particularly this has been something he has been able to take advantage of where he has shown excellent ability to take frequent intercept marks and marks 1v1.
Shutdown ability – Goddard is an excellent shutdown defender and can greatly limit the influence of his direct opponent and there is a feeling that he has them under control with his ability physically to match his opponents 1v1 but then also the closing speed to go with them on the lead, the motor to go with them up the ground and the leap to go with them in the air.
Aggression – Goddard plays a hard brand of footy. He attacks the footy in the air, will tackle you into the ground with real intent and put his body on the line and go when it is his turn to go.
Leadership and work ethic – From everything I understand Goddard is a hard trainer and works hard to develop his game and puts the time and effort into the gym to build up his body. He also has visibly demonstrated strong leadership ability on the field giving instruction to his team mates and the ability to lead by example.
Long kick – Goddard has a 55m kick on him and is a mostly reliable kick to his targets by foot. He has relatively good vision and typically finds good targets coming out of the back half. Also is capable converting from his set shots attempts.
Weaknesses:
Ground level ability – Goddard at ground level can at times be fumbly and is not as clean as he needs to be. He just lacks that bit of co-ordination below the knees and that cleanness with his pickups, not taking the ball as fluently as he needs to. Also when the ball hits the deck Goddard often is slow to react, just struggling to read and react to the bounce of the ball which greatly limits him as a forward, in the back half Goddard also seems slow to react when the ball goes to ground.
Lack of point of difference when playing forward – Goddard while effective on the lead, capable in the air and able to take marks 1v1 and the occasional pack grab in the front half lacks he just lacks that feeling that he will have a big game as someone who can consistently kick two or three goals but never more than that. He lacks that dominant marking ability or freakish or even good ground level ability to be a go to forward or provide that heavy scoreboard impact but he could be a plausible second option up forward as more a leading forward if required.
What I expect will improve:
I expect Goddard to incrementally continue to improve from year to year and continue to get better both as a shutdown player and a rebounder.
Who he can become?
As a key defender Goddard has the ability to become develop into something similar to Eric Mackenzie as someone who can both beat his direct opponent and at times when the opportunity is there take an intercept mark and be involved as a rebounder.
As a forward Goddard’s play reminds me of Sam Day as that tall, athletic type who lacks that point of difference.
When will he be ready to play?
Goddard will likely start to push for senior games in season three but more likely takes till season four to establish himself as a part of a best team.
How to best utilise him?
Goddard is best utilised at centre half back.
Interpretation of his numbers:
Goddard particularly through the U18 championships struggled to perform to his 2013 standards to achieve his usual numbers and I imagine his offseason hip surgery played a big part in his largely poor start to 2014. As a key forward particularly through the U18 championships Goddard struggled to have his usual scoreboard impact but when played back both through the U18 championships and particularly late season through the TAC Cup he not only looked settled but he got involved in the play taking excellent contested and uncontested marking numbers by position while also limiting the impact of his direct opponent.
Height: 196cm, Weight: 93kg, DOB: 24/08/1996
Recruited from: Geelong Falcons
Draft range: 6-20
Best position/role: Centre Half Back
Strengths:
Versatility – Goddard has demonstrated that he can play both back and forward well. As a key defender Goddard has demonstrated that he can significantly limit the impact of his direct opponent and at times provide rebound through taking numerous intercept marks and providing run and carry or using it well by foot when he gets his hands on it.As a forward he has shown that he can hit the scoreboard consistently and be an effective mark on the lead, in the air, 1v1 and take the occasional pack mark.
Strength and athleticism – Goddard is well built at 93kg already and has clearly put the time in through the gym and as a result in the contest he is very hard to beat 1v1 and often in the 1v1 contest takes the intercept mark. He also has an excellent mix of pace, agility and has an excellent leap which suggests that he has the ability as a key defender to become an effective shutdown player.
Ability to read the flight – Goddard shows excellent ability to read the flight of the ball both as a forward and when played down back. Down back particularly this has been something he has been able to take advantage of where he has shown excellent ability to take frequent intercept marks and marks 1v1.
Shutdown ability – Goddard is an excellent shutdown defender and can greatly limit the influence of his direct opponent and there is a feeling that he has them under control with his ability physically to match his opponents 1v1 but then also the closing speed to go with them on the lead, the motor to go with them up the ground and the leap to go with them in the air.
Aggression – Goddard plays a hard brand of footy. He attacks the footy in the air, will tackle you into the ground with real intent and put his body on the line and go when it is his turn to go.
Leadership and work ethic – From everything I understand Goddard is a hard trainer and works hard to develop his game and puts the time and effort into the gym to build up his body. He also has visibly demonstrated strong leadership ability on the field giving instruction to his team mates and the ability to lead by example.
Long kick – Goddard has a 55m kick on him and is a mostly reliable kick to his targets by foot. He has relatively good vision and typically finds good targets coming out of the back half. Also is capable converting from his set shots attempts.
Weaknesses:
Ground level ability – Goddard at ground level can at times be fumbly and is not as clean as he needs to be. He just lacks that bit of co-ordination below the knees and that cleanness with his pickups, not taking the ball as fluently as he needs to. Also when the ball hits the deck Goddard often is slow to react, just struggling to read and react to the bounce of the ball which greatly limits him as a forward, in the back half Goddard also seems slow to react when the ball goes to ground.
Lack of point of difference when playing forward – Goddard while effective on the lead, capable in the air and able to take marks 1v1 and the occasional pack grab in the front half lacks he just lacks that feeling that he will have a big game as someone who can consistently kick two or three goals but never more than that. He lacks that dominant marking ability or freakish or even good ground level ability to be a go to forward or provide that heavy scoreboard impact but he could be a plausible second option up forward as more a leading forward if required.
What I expect will improve:
I expect Goddard to incrementally continue to improve from year to year and continue to get better both as a shutdown player and a rebounder.
Who he can become?
As a key defender Goddard has the ability to become develop into something similar to Eric Mackenzie as someone who can both beat his direct opponent and at times when the opportunity is there take an intercept mark and be involved as a rebounder.
As a forward Goddard’s play reminds me of Sam Day as that tall, athletic type who lacks that point of difference.
When will he be ready to play?
Goddard will likely start to push for senior games in season three but more likely takes till season four to establish himself as a part of a best team.
How to best utilise him?
Goddard is best utilised at centre half back.
Interpretation of his numbers:
Goddard particularly through the U18 championships struggled to perform to his 2013 standards to achieve his usual numbers and I imagine his offseason hip surgery played a big part in his largely poor start to 2014. As a key forward particularly through the U18 championships Goddard struggled to have his usual scoreboard impact but when played back both through the U18 championships and particularly late season through the TAC Cup he not only looked settled but he got involved in the play taking excellent contested and uncontested marking numbers by position while also limiting the impact of his direct opponent.
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fugazi wrote:#18 free?
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Re: Not long now! Pick #1 St.Kilda.........
Reckon we would have taken Laverde if Essendon didn't
Goddard will do though - key defender with some class which we need
Bring on 22 and 41
Mid for 22 - D McKenzie??
Goddard will do though - key defender with some class which we need
Bring on 22 and 41
Mid for 22 - D McKenzie??
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Yes mid...and a good get for us!
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Daniel McKenzie (Oakleigh Chargers)
Height: 183 cm
Weight: 77 kg
Position: Midfielder/defender
Player comparison: George Horlin-Smith
Strengths: Speed, tackling, defensive pressure, marking, big-game player
Areas needing improvement: Consistency, ability to hit the scoreboard
You could be forgiven for not knowing who Daniel McKenzie is, what position he plays, and why he’s being spoken about within top 30 calculations. But Collingwood, Hawthorn and West Coast fans take note: McKenzie’s draft stocks are rising.
In a nutshell, McKenzie is a classy midfielder with superb athletic traits who boasts a rare combination of top line speed, endurance and agility. His skill set is also within the top echelon. He is a balanced kick on either side of his body, rates highly in terms of his marking capabilities, whilst his defensive pressure and nous to spread and win the ball on the outside also features prominently.
McKenzie’s natural leap means that he can play small or tall as a defender, and his endurance means that he can bounce around between half back and half forward, and really own a wing position, such is his transition running and offensive drive.
While McKenzie hasn’t exactly been a household draft name in the lead up to November 27th, he’s certainly starting to gain traction.
McKenzie’s year started off somewhat slow, but he came home with a wet sail, with the Oakleigh Chargers naming him best on ground in their premiership win, highlighting his appetite for the big stage.
But if we put the magnifying glass on the second half of his year, it’s one simply of a revelation.
An impressive showing at the National Championships in the middle of the year for Vic Metro was the catalyst of McKenzie’s run home. He notched 18 possessions at a super 89 per cent disposal efficiency during his one game, including three marks. He was ultimately pushed out in favour of others, but he answered his critics in a scintillating return to TAC Cup football.
It prompted a permanent move to the midfield, a natural progression from a back flank where he was notoriously known for shutting down his opponent, taking intercept marks, creating run from the back half and doing it all with a bit of ‘oomph’ and a touch of pizzazz.
It saw a rise in all of his key performance indications, averaging 19.8 disposals, 5.1 tackles, 5.1 marks and 5.6 handball receives, increasing from 12, 3.8, 2.5 and 3.5 respectively.
It brought to the fore his strengths – his speed and endurance and a natural ability to find the footy. He was able to win the ball, and run and in doing so left opponents in his wake. He would back himself to beat any would-be tackler, with a quick side step and accelerating past, or through congestion.
McKenzie was able to exploit his athletic capabilities, but in doing so kept a defensive mindset, an attribute AFL recruiters love. He was the only TAC Cup player in the competition to average high disposal numbers yet maintain equally high pressure acts, such was his harassing, tackling, spoiling, bumps and blocks.
At the next level, a club that is fortunate enough to call him theirs will have flexibility and versatility in abundance with McKenzie. As a defender, he uses his body positioning quite well, often playing in front and gets good location on his opponent, sticking close and using his strong core to back himself in a one-on-one contest, where his first instinct is to spoil or manoeuvre his opponent under the ball.
Although McKenzie doesn’t have a penetrating kick that’s reliable over 50 metres, he’s precise over 40 metres, and in particular has a habit of making bullet-like passes on a wing, or cutting inboard from defence.
His marking however, arguably defines him. He reads the kick off an opposition boot well, moves fluently into space, reading the ball in flight before taking the mark in defence and using the ball truly by foot. His ability to take intercept marks, go back with the flight of the ball with incoming contact, and take contested marks, sets him apart from other midfielders.
One of the most gifted, yet freakish athletes available in this year’s draft, McKenzie’s draft stocks have drastically risen particularly after his impressive draft combine. His vertical jump, endurance, repeat sprints, time trials and agility test all rated within the top echelon of testing, rounding out an impressive make-up of his athletic traits.
Whilst McKenzie’s scoreboard impact would loom as an area of immediate development, only kicking two goals in 2014 despite being an mainstay in Oakleigh’s all-conquering midfield, there is still plenty to be excited about with McKenzie’s scope for development ranking inside the top 10 of this year’s draft crop.
Height: 183 cm
Weight: 77 kg
Position: Midfielder/defender
Player comparison: George Horlin-Smith
Strengths: Speed, tackling, defensive pressure, marking, big-game player
Areas needing improvement: Consistency, ability to hit the scoreboard
You could be forgiven for not knowing who Daniel McKenzie is, what position he plays, and why he’s being spoken about within top 30 calculations. But Collingwood, Hawthorn and West Coast fans take note: McKenzie’s draft stocks are rising.
In a nutshell, McKenzie is a classy midfielder with superb athletic traits who boasts a rare combination of top line speed, endurance and agility. His skill set is also within the top echelon. He is a balanced kick on either side of his body, rates highly in terms of his marking capabilities, whilst his defensive pressure and nous to spread and win the ball on the outside also features prominently.
McKenzie’s natural leap means that he can play small or tall as a defender, and his endurance means that he can bounce around between half back and half forward, and really own a wing position, such is his transition running and offensive drive.
While McKenzie hasn’t exactly been a household draft name in the lead up to November 27th, he’s certainly starting to gain traction.
McKenzie’s year started off somewhat slow, but he came home with a wet sail, with the Oakleigh Chargers naming him best on ground in their premiership win, highlighting his appetite for the big stage.
But if we put the magnifying glass on the second half of his year, it’s one simply of a revelation.
An impressive showing at the National Championships in the middle of the year for Vic Metro was the catalyst of McKenzie’s run home. He notched 18 possessions at a super 89 per cent disposal efficiency during his one game, including three marks. He was ultimately pushed out in favour of others, but he answered his critics in a scintillating return to TAC Cup football.
It prompted a permanent move to the midfield, a natural progression from a back flank where he was notoriously known for shutting down his opponent, taking intercept marks, creating run from the back half and doing it all with a bit of ‘oomph’ and a touch of pizzazz.
It saw a rise in all of his key performance indications, averaging 19.8 disposals, 5.1 tackles, 5.1 marks and 5.6 handball receives, increasing from 12, 3.8, 2.5 and 3.5 respectively.
It brought to the fore his strengths – his speed and endurance and a natural ability to find the footy. He was able to win the ball, and run and in doing so left opponents in his wake. He would back himself to beat any would-be tackler, with a quick side step and accelerating past, or through congestion.
McKenzie was able to exploit his athletic capabilities, but in doing so kept a defensive mindset, an attribute AFL recruiters love. He was the only TAC Cup player in the competition to average high disposal numbers yet maintain equally high pressure acts, such was his harassing, tackling, spoiling, bumps and blocks.
At the next level, a club that is fortunate enough to call him theirs will have flexibility and versatility in abundance with McKenzie. As a defender, he uses his body positioning quite well, often playing in front and gets good location on his opponent, sticking close and using his strong core to back himself in a one-on-one contest, where his first instinct is to spoil or manoeuvre his opponent under the ball.
Although McKenzie doesn’t have a penetrating kick that’s reliable over 50 metres, he’s precise over 40 metres, and in particular has a habit of making bullet-like passes on a wing, or cutting inboard from defence.
His marking however, arguably defines him. He reads the kick off an opposition boot well, moves fluently into space, reading the ball in flight before taking the mark in defence and using the ball truly by foot. His ability to take intercept marks, go back with the flight of the ball with incoming contact, and take contested marks, sets him apart from other midfielders.
One of the most gifted, yet freakish athletes available in this year’s draft, McKenzie’s draft stocks have drastically risen particularly after his impressive draft combine. His vertical jump, endurance, repeat sprints, time trials and agility test all rated within the top echelon of testing, rounding out an impressive make-up of his athletic traits.
Whilst McKenzie’s scoreboard impact would loom as an area of immediate development, only kicking two goals in 2014 despite being an mainstay in Oakleigh’s all-conquering midfield, there is still plenty to be excited about with McKenzie’s scope for development ranking inside the top 10 of this year’s draft crop.
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I think he would be better with another numberfugazi wrote:I meant jumper 18 that BJ woresaintsRrising wrote:fugazi wrote:#18 free?
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fugazi wrote:I meant jumper 18 that BJ woresaintsRrising wrote:fugazi wrote:#18 free?
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Getting Goddard makes me happier about losing Stanley now.
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Pick 40 Demons -Just missed on Alex Neal-Bullen. bugga!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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