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Also with you k, how long has he been there?SainterK wrote:I'm not buying in either pluggs, fwiw.
Don't get the fan love for him, well not yet anyways.
Let him earn it.
satchmo wrote:Who is doing the channeling, K?SainterK wrote:Exactly...
Where are the Ameet threads? Or the trout ones?
It's all channelled towards Chris, it's a bit weird.
Whatever works I guess
It all seems to come from people who are beaten up by mates that are hawks fans.
Personally, I have a good deal of faith in Ameet, Chris, and trout. Not 'because they work for St Kilda', but because I believe that these people are very good at what they do. They are also our only hope for success in the foreseeable future.
Now you could question these people; That is reasonable.
You could be critical of these people; That is also reasonable. A lot of people disagree with trading/recruiting decisions.
You could accuse these people of being liars; Well unless you have some decent evidence to support such claims then you are being willfully destructive, or you are being manipulated by someone a lot smarter than you, and you deserve the frequent abuse with which they reem you.
Enjoy!
Elshaugh is Peake's equivalent, not Pelkin. Pelkin is everyone master including the coach's .Wayne42 wrote:The Pelican is good for the Saints..
I pay no creedence to all the anti Pelican waffle in this thread...next these Pelican haters will be writing letters to the club asking them to sack him and bring back Peake
nah...well...not yet anyway...Wayne42 wrote:The Pelican is good for the Saints..
I pay no creedence to all the anti Pelican waffle in this thread...next these Pelican haters will be writing letters to the club asking them to sack him and bring back Peake
satchmo wrote:Who is doing the channeling, K?SainterK wrote:Exactly...
Where are the Ameet threads? Or the trout ones?
It's all channelled towards Chris, it's a bit weird.
Whatever works I guess
It all seems to come from people who are beaten up by mates that are hawks fans.
Personally, I have a good deal of faith in Ameet, Chris, and trout. Not 'because they work for St Kilda', but because I believe that these people are very good at what they do. They are also our only hope for success in the foreseeable future.
Now you could question these people; That is reasonable.
You could be critical of these people; That is also reasonable. A lot of people disagree with trading/recruiting decisions.
You could accuse these people of being liars; Well unless you have some decent evidence to support such claims then you are being willfully destructive, or you are being manipulated by someone a lot smarter than you, and you deserve the frequent abuse with which they reem you.
Enjoy!
Yes, just because it is written doesn't make it true. And just because an anonymous poster on an internet forum reckons his mate told him something doesn't make it true. How does Anstey or McCartney being sacked mean that Pelchen was sacked? Does it also mean that Lenny was sacked?plugger66 wrote:satchmo wrote:Who is doing the channeling, K?SainterK wrote:Exactly...
Where are the Ameet threads? Or the trout ones?
It's all channelled towards Chris, it's a bit weird.
Whatever works I guess
It all seems to come from people who are beaten up by mates that are hawks fans.
Personally, I have a good deal of faith in Ameet, Chris, and trout. Not 'because they work for St Kilda', but because I believe that these people are very good at what they do. They are also our only hope for success in the foreseeable future.
Now you could question these people; That is reasonable.
You could be critical of these people; That is also reasonable. A lot of people disagree with trading/recruiting decisions.
You could accuse these people of being liars; Well unless you have some decent evidence to support such claims then you are being willfully destructive, or you are being manipulated by someone a lot smarter than you, and you deserve the frequent abuse with which they reem you.
Enjoy!
As I said just because its written or said it doesn't make it true. Do you honestly think Chris Anstey and Brendan McCartney resigned? Tell me you arent that naïve? Please.
No it doesn't mean that Lenny was sacked but your reasons as to why I was wrong were exactly the same reasons that you should think Anstey and McCartney resigned. I don't think they did so those reasons aren't always valid. Surely you get that. I yes Im suggesting Pelchen told a fib and then gave you my reason. There is nothing else I can say to prove it and unless you are a lawyer for him I really couldn't give a stuff what you want me to do regarding this. And yes I support our club and if you have supported them as much as me then you are one great supporter. That doesn't mean I have to believe or like every employer of our club. And my guess is many people on here have slagged off employers off our club. I hope you jump on them as much as you have jumped on me. Of course no one slagged off Lyon, Butteres, GT, SW and so on when they were emeployed by the club and I also suggest many people also called them liars when they were employed by the club unless of course you were out of the country and missed it at the time.satchmo wrote:Yes, just because it is written doesn't make it true. And just because an anonymous poster on an internet forum reckons his mate told him something doesn't make it true. How does Anstey or McCartney being sacked mean that Pelchen was sacked? Does it also mean that Lenny was sacked?plugger66 wrote:satchmo wrote:Who is doing the channeling, K?SainterK wrote:Exactly...
Where are the Ameet threads? Or the trout ones?
It's all channelled towards Chris, it's a bit weird.
Whatever works I guess
It all seems to come from people who are beaten up by mates that are hawks fans.
Personally, I have a good deal of faith in Ameet, Chris, and trout. Not 'because they work for St Kilda', but because I believe that these people are very good at what they do. They are also our only hope for success in the foreseeable future.
Now you could question these people; That is reasonable.
You could be critical of these people; That is also reasonable. A lot of people disagree with trading/recruiting decisions.
You could accuse these people of being liars; Well unless you have some decent evidence to support such claims then you are being willfully destructive, or you are being manipulated by someone a lot smarter than you, and you deserve the frequent abuse with which they reem you.
Enjoy!
As I said just because its written or said it doesn't make it true. Do you honestly think Chris Anstey and Brendan McCartney resigned? Tell me you arent that naïve? Please.
You might be right. But weight of evidence suggests you are very wrong. Hearsay from disgruntled Hawks, especially nameless ones doesn't have a lot of weight.
At any rate you have invested heavily in the theory that Pelchen is a liar. If you wish to continue down that path I suggest you put up or shut up. He is employed by the St Kilda Football Club to perform a vital role, and his success or failure will shape our future. No matter how low your opinion of him, slagging him off on a public forum does not achieve any positive outcome for the club you claim to support.
Have a nice day
That is fair enough. On the last point we can all agree.plugger66 wrote:
I want Pelchen to be a genius but that doesn't mean I have even slightly the like the guy or trust him. In Pelchen you can trust but I chose not to. Hope he is the making of our club.
The Cats don't get it wrong too often, either. Chances are they've pulled the right reign here. Bad call Saints.magnifisaint wrote:Why develop someone only to trade him and start the whole process again
It's not a bad call yet and so far it's in our favour.Jacsaint wrote:The Cats don't get it wrong too often, either. Chances are they've pulled the right reign here. Bad call Saints.magnifisaint wrote:Why develop someone only to trade him and start the whole process again
This is also what concerns me... if it was Carlton, you would be confident that 21 was overs.. but Geelong don't make too many mistakes at drafting time...Jacsaint wrote:The Cats don't get it wrong too often, either. Chances are they've pulled the right reign here. Bad call Saints.magnifisaint wrote:Why develop someone only to trade him and start the whole process again
No, he'll be good with the Cats foot skills but come the pressure of September he won't be seen.SuperDuper wrote:This is also what concerns me... if it was Carlton, you would be confident that 21 was overs.. but Geelong don't make too many mistakes at drafting time...Jacsaint wrote:The Cats don't get it wrong too often, either. Chances are they've pulled the right reign here. Bad call Saints.magnifisaint wrote:Why develop someone only to trade him and start the whole process again
time will tell, but I am concerned that this may have been a mistake by the saints
tony74 wrote:No, he'll be good with the Cats foot skills but come the pressure of September he won't be seen.SuperDuper wrote:This is also what concerns me... if it was Carlton, you would be confident that 21 was overs.. but Geelong don't make too many mistakes at drafting time...Jacsaint wrote:The Cats don't get it wrong too often, either. Chances are they've pulled the right reign here. Bad call Saints.magnifisaint wrote:Why develop someone only to trade him and start the whole process again
time will tell, but I am concerned that this may have been a mistake by the saints
Or he will suffer a series of hamstring injuries, struggle for form and consistency, never get a foothold in the Cats senior side and be delisted before his contract runs outBackFromUSA wrote:Or he will give the Cats midfield first use of the ball at centre bouces with his elite tap work and become the player of that Finals series ...
tony74 wrote:No, he'll be good with the Cats foot skills but come the pressure of September he won't be seen.SuperDuper wrote:This is also what concerns me... if it was Carlton, you would be confident that 21 was overs.. but Geelong don't make too many mistakes at drafting time...Jacsaint wrote:The Cats don't get it wrong too often, either. Chances are they've pulled the right reign here. Bad call Saints.magnifisaint wrote:Why develop someone only to trade him and start the whole process again
time will tell, but I am concerned that this may have been a mistake by the saints
Maybe he's not in their best 22.plugger66 wrote:tony74 wrote:No, he'll be good with the Cats foot skills but come the pressure of September he won't be seen.SuperDuper wrote:This is also what concerns me... if it was Carlton, you would be confident that 21 was overs.. but Geelong don't make too many mistakes at drafting time...Jacsaint wrote:The Cats don't get it wrong too often, either. Chances are they've pulled the right reign here. Bad call Saints.magnifisaint wrote:Why develop someone only to trade him and start the whole process again
time will tell, but I am concerned that this may have been a mistake by the saints
Never leave our club because once you do you are a failure. You are positive in anything Saints but he left so he will fail in finals. Is that based on his previous finals experience Tony? Seriously.
SaintPav wrote:Maybe he's not in their best 22.plugger66 wrote:tony74 wrote:No, he'll be good with the Cats foot skills but come the pressure of September he won't be seen.SuperDuper wrote:This is also what concerns me... if it was Carlton, you would be confident that 21 was overs.. but Geelong don't make too many mistakes at drafting time...Jacsaint wrote:The Cats don't get it wrong too often, either. Chances are they've pulled the right reign here. Bad call Saints.magnifisaint wrote:Why develop someone only to trade him and start the whole process again
time will tell, but I am concerned that this may have been a mistake by the saints
Never leave our club because once you do you are a failure. You are positive in anything Saints but he left so he will fail in finals. Is that based on his previous finals experience Tony? Seriously.
SainterK wrote:Just a guess, but if Vardy puts injuries behind him, they have quite a few guys fighting for that second ruck spot....they'd go with Vardy wouldn't they?
So where is Mitch Clark supposed to play?CURLY wrote:SainterK wrote:Just a guess, but if Vardy puts injuries behind him, they have quite a few guys fighting for that second ruck spot....they'd go with Vardy wouldn't they?
They want Vardy as a CHF.
Mr Magic wrote:So where is Mitch Clark supposed to play?CURLY wrote:SainterK wrote:Just a guess, but if Vardy puts injuries behind him, they have quite a few guys fighting for that second ruck spot....they'd go with Vardy wouldn't they?
They want Vardy as a CHF.
So their forward line would haveCURLY wrote:Mr Magic wrote:So where is Mitch Clark supposed to play?CURLY wrote:SainterK wrote:Just a guess, but if Vardy puts injuries behind him, they have quite a few guys fighting for that second ruck spot....they'd go with Vardy wouldn't they?
They want Vardy as a CHF.
Up foward I would say but Vardy is there preffered choice at CHF. They dont want him in the ruck for any length of time.
The way McIntosh got run around in the finals I wouldnt be suprised if they rotated Clark and Stanley in the ruck.Mr Magic wrote:So their forward line would haveCURLY wrote:Mr Magic wrote:So where is Mitch Clark supposed to play?CURLY wrote:SainterK wrote:Just a guess, but if Vardy puts injuries behind him, they have quite a few guys fighting for that second ruck spot....they'd go with Vardy wouldn't they?
They want Vardy as a CHF.
Up foward I would say but Vardy is there preffered choice at CHF. They dont want him in the ruck for any length of time.
Hawkins
Vardy
Clark
Stanley
or Stanley would play in the ruck coming on/off the bench?
Actually I had heard from inside the club earlier this year that the real question marks over Stanley's ability to take his game up a level were around the mental sidce of things. He is not a natural footballer, and is not a naturally intense or aggressive player. So maybe they simply figured that where he is at now is his ceiling as a player? No shame in that, he's played 50 more games than any of us and despite realing shoiwing immense ability at times, would be far from the first player to promise more than he delivered.plugger66 wrote:SaintPav wrote:Maybe he's not in their best 22.plugger66 wrote:tony74 wrote:No, he'll be good with the Cats foot skills but come the pressure of September he won't be seen.SuperDuper wrote:This is also what concerns me... if it was Carlton, you would be confident that 21 was overs.. but Geelong don't make too many mistakes at drafting time...Jacsaint wrote:The Cats don't get it wrong too often, either. Chances are they've pulled the right reign here. Bad call Saints.magnifisaint wrote:Why develop someone only to trade him and start the whole process again
time will tell, but I am concerned that this may have been a mistake by the saints
Never leave our club because once you do you are a failure. You are positive in anything Saints but he left so he will fail in finals. Is that based on his previous finals experience Tony? Seriously.
Maybe he isn't. Maybe he is. My point is Tony would never have said that if he still played for us. I don't see the point of saying it. maybe its just me.
