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Post: # 1510706Post MC Gusto »

also 'models himself on Roo' according to the age article...


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Saints94 wrote:
BringBackMadDog wrote:Tomlinsons stats for last season are pretty impressive, he gets a lot of the footy for a tall footy, averaged over 16 disposals and 6 marks in 19 games. In 45 games over 2 seasons he has got more than 20 disposals in 10 games. They are Riewoldt like numbers.
He's only 21 193cm and 88kgs
I would take 6 and 7 plus him and then just go for mids in the draft.
+1. Tomlinson has the scope to be our next CHF imo.
Adam is a big bodied mid in the Lenny mould (not as good but similar style of player) - I dont think he is in any way a KPP.
Hes got excellent endurance.


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ring her anyway con
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NESTLED among All Australian Jeremy Cameron and No.1 draft picks Jonathon Patton and Tom Boyd, young Greater Western Sydney forward Adam Tomlinson can sometimes slip by a little unnoticed.

But that won't be the case for long for a player with extraordinary running ability who has modelled his game on St Kilda champion Nick Riewoldt.

"You're right, with Patton, Cameron and to a lesser extent Boyd … Adam probably slips under the radar a little bit," GWS coach Leon Cameron said.

"But he's progressing really well as that centre half-forward.

"He's very flexible for us. He plays on the wing, he sometimes plays in the middle of the ground, he goes behind the footy.

"Any guy that's got a 9m 45s running ability over three kilometres is gold. If he's six-foot-four, it's even better.

"We're rapt to have him in our team and I can see him becoming a really good player for this footy club for a long time."

Turning 21 next month, Tomlinson is learning one of the toughest positions on the ground while also trying to maintain his versatility.

But key forward is where he sees himself long-term and he need only look across town for belief that he, Cameron, Patton and Boyd can all function in the same side.

In Lance Franklin, Kurt Tippett, Adam Goodes and Sam Reid, the Sydney Swans own the most feared forward set-up in the competition.

There were initial doubts whether the tall quartet would work, but the Swans' 10-game winning streak has ended that debate.

Similar question marks followed when GWS selected Boyd first overall in last year's NAB AFL Draft and added him to Cameron, Patton and Tomlinson.

"The Swans' forward line is a lot further developed than ours," Tomlinson told AFL.com.au. "It gives us great confidence and something to look forward to.

"Hopefully we can get to that point and be the same, if not better."

It's a belief shared by his coach, who loves the forward line at his disposal.

Tomlinson might be the best athlete of them all.

"He's a running machine and a very hard match-up," Leon Cameron said.

"I look at Sydney's forward line – you've got Tippett and Reid, then Goodes and Franklin are unique. Really unique.

"Tomlinson and Cameron are also a bit unique."

Along with the debate over the quartet's ability to play together is the query over whether the Giants can keep them all.

When opposition clubs, particularly those based in Victoria, analyse GWS' list, Tomlinson's name must leap off the page.

How many teams south of the Murray River could use a 193cm key position prospect that can run like him?

More to the point, which ones couldn't?

Like so many of his GWS teammates, Tomlinson is off contract at the end of next year.

But it only takes a quick conversation with the considered youngster to get a feel of his commitment to GWS.

"That's the benefit of being in Sydney, we don’t hear anywhere near as much as you would in Melbourne," he said.

"All my family is in Melbourne and they tell me what's being said, but we don't really listen to any of it.

"All the boys are loving it up here and … you can see the improvement we've had. That's a massive win for all of us and makes us want to stay."

Therein likes the key – winning.

The club's youngsters were absolute stars in junior football, accustomed to winning and winning often.

But following the round 13 victory over the Brisbane Lions, which snapped an eight-game losing streak, a jubilant Tomlinson pointed out it was just his second victory in 35 senior appearances.

That's a winning rate of less than 6 per cent.

Yet the Lions victory was quickly followed by a strong win over Carlton, adding some momentum and belief to all the hard work.

So is that what makes players at the Giants want to buy in, seeing what the future could hold and not wanting to miss out?

"Exactly," Tomlinson says. "Especially when we got the win in Brisbane and then Carlton, just being able to double it up.

"And we really think we can take it up to Adelaide this weekend.

"The coaches instil that confidence in us each week, making us think we can win every game. It's been really good."


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Post: # 1510710Post Saints94 »

Con Gorozidis wrote:
Saints94 wrote:
BringBackMadDog wrote:Tomlinsons stats for last season are pretty impressive, he gets a lot of the footy for a tall footy, averaged over 16 disposals and 6 marks in 19 games. In 45 games over 2 seasons he has got more than 20 disposals in 10 games. They are Riewoldt like numbers.
He's only 21 193cm and 88kgs
I would take 6 and 7 plus him and then just go for mids in the draft.
+1. Tomlinson has the scope to be our next CHF imo.
Adam is a big bodied mid in the Lenny mould (not as good but similar style of player) - I dont think he is in any way a KPP.
Hes got excellent endurance.
I have never seen him play midfield Con my mistake, just going off on how he models his game on our captain, hence the CHF comment.


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http://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/ ... inson.html

got a lot of uncontested ball last year


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Post: # 1510712Post gringo »

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jonesy wrote:Is Jaxons pelican or Baines?
I'll go with neither.
I wouldn't be surprised if he's a plant from the club to lessen the impact of the trade outs. It would actually be a pretty clever manipulation. Get on the front foot with the hard core idiots. Get some office gimp to leak targeted info out to douse the flames when the controversial trades happen. Politicians do it all the time so any good media strategist will be aware of the concept.


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Post: # 1510714Post loris »

gringo wrote:
Get on the front foot with the hard core idiots. Get some office gimp to leak targeted info out

Now, now, 'gringo'................... don't talk about jaxons like that :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:


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think it is more likely we are pushing for 4 & 6 or 4 & 7 eg 2 picks in top 10. highly doubt we could pick off 3 in the top 10 for pick 1. we would need to include something else (more picks and or a player) to achieve 3 top 10 picks


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how about we swap 1, 21, 22 + player, for 4, 6, 7 + tomilson?
hrm


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lefty wrote:how about we swap 1, 21, 22 + player, for 4, 6, 7 + tomilson?
hrm
I'm not sure if they'll want to rearrange the three picks, I think we're much more likely to trade 2 picks for 2 picks and Tomlinson.

eg. 1, 22 = 4, 7 and Tomlinson


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Ryder and Giles now done so GWS don't have many targets left - imagine that the attention will focus on pick #1 now


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OK - so now that the Ryder issue is resolved and he is headed to Port, are GWS going to stop playing a really poor bluff and cough up the asking price for pick 1 ??

You want it guys, and you know what we want for it, let's stop dancing and get it done......


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MC Gusto wrote:think it is more likely we are pushing for 4 & 6 or 4 & 7 eg 2 picks in top 10. highly doubt we could pick off 3 in the top 10 for pick 1. we would need to include something else (more picks and or a player) to achieve 3 top 10 picks
We've apparently already knocked back 4 & 7…


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Apparently being the operative word

Club stated we've knocked back multiple picks in top 15 not multiple picks in top 10


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dragit wrote:
MC Gusto wrote:think it is more likely we are pushing for 4 & 6 or 4 & 7 eg 2 picks in top 10. highly doubt we could pick off 3 in the top 10 for pick 1. we would need to include something else (more picks and or a player) to achieve 3 top 10 picks
We've apparently already knocked back 4 & 7…
Thats what Jaxons posted


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dragit wrote:
MC Gusto wrote:think it is more likely we are pushing for 4 & 6 or 4 & 7 eg 2 picks in top 10. highly doubt we could pick off 3 in the top 10 for pick 1. we would need to include something else (more picks and or a player) to achieve 3 top 10 picks
We've apparently already knocked back 4 & 7…
Thats what Jaxons posted


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Still no offer from GWS.


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jaxons wrote:Still no offer from GWS.
Disappointing. Need to spread the talent with pick 1


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jaxons wrote:Still no offer from GWS.
not what I heard?


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The bastards will wait for the last half hr to see who blinks firdt


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Fingers crossed.
(not sure what for ... but something good!)


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magnifisaint wrote:The bastards will wait for the last half hr to see who blinks firdt
Basic rule of negotiation: first one to speak loses.

We have a very strong negotiating position because we'd be really happy with Petracca. They have a weak position because they really don't want three more good kids that need development. I hope we hold the line.


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Armagizmo wrote:
jaxons wrote:Still no offer from GWS.
not what I heard?
No worries, can only tell you live and direct.
Believe what you want!


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Post: # 1510736Post dragit »

MC Gusto wrote:Apparently being the operative word

Club stated we've knocked back multiple picks in top 15 not multiple picks in top 10
Which means
2 & 3
4 & 7
8 & 15


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