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So McCartin the new number 1

Post: # 1510117Post Middo »

Was thinking with the moving on of Stanley are we going to target McCartin being the best forward option in most opinions or is getting Membrey covering Stanley up forward and we stick with Petracca..?
Throws a few things in the mix now ..?


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we might look for a forward innext years draft and just run one short for the year ... we did that with a tall defender when we didnt get Mitch Brown


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Post: # 1510126Post St Chris »

Still think No. 1 is on the table - could still get McCartin at 4 (more likely to get Wright) and a mid with 7.

The issue now is, if Roo goes down, there's nothing left.


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Post: # 1510142Post bigred »

One gets the feeling that one Spencer White might have a slightly higher profile next year.


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Re: So McCartin the new number 1

Post: # 1510152Post Middo »

bigred wrote:One gets the feeling that one Spencer White might have a slightly higher profile next year.
Yep that's the way I'm thinking , hope we go Petracca and big Spence turns promise into something more legit ..


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Post: # 1510171Post Con Gorozidis »

I think Pelchen is prepared to back in Hickey, Lee & White for the next two years.

We will also try and land a big fish fwd in 2016.

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Re: So McCartin the new number 1

Post: # 1510182Post gringo »

st_Trav_ofWA wrote:we might look for a forward innext years draft and just run one short for the year ... we did that with a tall defender when we didnt get Mitch Brown

I'm not sure I'd call us short of a tall forwards. We have White and Lee ready to step in next year and might even see Pierce as a rucking forward. Bruce is more a forward option than a back according to Richo.


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Post: # 1510183Post SinCitySainter »

MCCartin is no replacement for Stanley. He is an undersized leading Full Forward.
I would not have thought he was Pelchin style player at all seeing as how Pelchin seems to like flexible players who can play a number of different roles and McCartin is defiantely a single position player.
To me getting rid of Rhys points more towards trying to trade Pick one and then trying to secure Wright with pick 4.


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Our improvement could be limited this year, so with that in mind perhaps next season is a test of the new forward structure. If it looks bleak we can make a play for Boyd, we would just have to have a better offer than the dogs. The news is he is returning to Melbourne regardless of this season so why not


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Post: # 1510189Post Con Gorozidis »

gringo wrote:
st_Trav_ofWA wrote:we might look for a forward innext years draft and just run one short for the year ... we did that with a tall defender when we didnt get Mitch Brown

I'm not sure I'd call us short of a tall forwards. We have White and Lee ready to step in next year and might even see Pierce as a rucking forward. Bruce is more a forward option than a back according to Richo.

Agree. If Gilbo Delaney Fisher and Dempster can stay on the field then Bruce can go forward.

Throw in Hickey, Lee and White.


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Post: # 1510190Post remboy »

St Chris wrote:Still think No. 1 is on the table - could still get McCartin at 4 (more likely to get Wright) and a mid with 7.

The issue now is, if Roo goes down, there's nothing left.
That was this years issue as well. Nobody can replace Roo.
You don't rebuild an entire list in one year. We are doing it a year at a time. We got some good kids last year and we'll get some more this year.


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Re: So McCartin the new number 1

Post: # 1510197Post samoht »

I would have preferred if we kept Stanley - but I don't think we've lost anything, goal-wise.
Petracca and Membrey could kick more goals next year than Stanley or McCartin for that matter - who knows?

We need to develop many avenues to goal - more from midfielders and mid-sized players - not just rely on a tall forward.


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Post: # 1510210Post magnifisaint »

Looks like they have big expectations of Lewis Pierce. He'll take over from Stanley.


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Looks like they have big expectations of Lewis Pierce. He'll take over from Stanley.


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Post: # 1510215Post Armagizmo »

Why aren't more people talking about Tom Lee? I think he's been really solid for such a young bloke. After a few years in the gym he could become great.


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Re: So McCartin the new number 1

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St Chris wrote:Still think No. 1 is on the table - could still get McCartin at 4 (more likely to get Wright) and a mid with 7.

The issue now is, if Roo goes down, there's nothing left.
We may still beat Essendon if they default due to lack of players - a list with about 20 suspended players.
Last time I looked at the rules, the suspension of a senior player did NOT entitle a club to upgrade a guy off their rookie list.


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Re: So McCartin the new number 1

Post: # 1510219Post ace »

Ah so what, we struggle with tall forwards in 2015.
We "win" another wooden spoon.
We get our just deserts - first pick in the main draft, the preseason draft and the rookie draft again. :D :D :D


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The 2015 grand final was won with desperation, a feature I have never seen from Stanley.
If Geelong can teach him desperation they will receive a just reward.


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Post: # 1510224Post evertonfc »

Petracca remains the #1 pick.


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Armagizmo wrote:Why aren't more people talking about Tom Lee? I think he's been really solid for such a young bloke. After a few years in the gym he could become great.
Are you his brother?


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saintspremiers wrote:
Armagizmo wrote:Why aren't more people talking about Tom Lee? I think he's been really solid for such a young bloke. After a few years in the gym he could become great.
Are you his brother?
Hahaha no. I do rate him though. Doesn't anyone else? Very successful out west and averaged more than a goal a game as a very young man in 2013.


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Re: So McCartin the new number 1

Post: # 1510233Post cwrcyn »

How tall does Stanley really play? At 200cm he doesn't take a heap of marks against opponents 5 -7cm shorter


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Armagizmo wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:
Armagizmo wrote:Why aren't more people talking about Tom Lee? I think he's been really solid for such a young bloke. After a few years in the gym he could become great.
Are you his brother?
Hahaha no. I do rate him though. Doesn't anyone else? Very successful out west and averaged more than a goal a game as a very young man in 2013.
Armagizmo, I see you are a new poster. Welcome.

If you searched this forum for Tom Lee's name your computer would explode. Let's just say he is a somewhat divisive topic.

But most of us are still hopeful that his fortunes will reverse.


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SemperFidelis wrote:
Armagizmo wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:
Armagizmo wrote:Why aren't more people talking about Tom Lee? I think he's been really solid for such a young bloke. After a few years in the gym he could become great.
Are you his brother?
Hahaha no. I do rate him though. Doesn't anyone else? Very successful out west and averaged more than a goal a game as a very young man in 2013.
Armagizmo, I see you are a new poster. Welcome.

If you searched this forum for Tom Lee's name your computer would explode. Let's just say he is a somewhat divisive topic.

But most of us are still hopeful that his fortunes will reverse.
Thanks for the heads up SemperFi. I'd pick Lee over Stanley in the schoolyard any day.


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Re: So McCartin the new number 1

Post: # 1510243Post matrix »

yes i rate lee
just needs to work on his tank
the marking and kicking are fine imo


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