Rhys Stanley for Pick #21

[paddy]

yeah,

its a fair trade. Sad for us but you gotta give something up to get something...

We get Petracca and 2 more in the top 25. (when you factor in the father son/academy pics, we probably have 3 in first 20 live pics)

[SaintPav]

I hope Shlinger doesn't blow a gasket.

[Con Gorozidis]

For whats its worth Cats fans are not happy with this deal.

[FQF]

Reckon our recruiters are confident with what they can get at 21. Wouldn't have done it otherwise.

[MCG-Unit]

.....In the case of Port and Hawthorn they're actually light on for big rucking types who can play as key forwards. Hawthorn use Roughhead to fill the breach from time to time and, again, that's an elite forward becoming versatile because of need.

2 of the top 3 don't see the same importance in having lots of big blokes to ruck and play forward, as some others do.....

The bigtime Hawker have McEvoy, Hale & (to a lesser extent) Ceglar who are 'big rucking types who can play as key forwards' and Roughead being a big forward who can play ruck.

For depth they also have Lowden, another Ruck/Fwd type plus Grimley a Fwd/Ruck. So I doubt they are 'light on' for this type of player.

FWIW Geelong have McIntosh, Blicavs, Vardy, Simpson, Walker & now Mitch Clark & Stanley who are Ruck/Fwd types.....looks like they value the Ruck/Fwd as well

[SaintPav]

Not happy with this -- if a Mcdonalds store has a KPI of selling 1000 Big Macs a day for the year and they drop the price to 10c a burger they might make the KPI but they still have a loss..... I don't think Pelchen should be setting goals such as 3 picks below 22 if he then goes and achieves that by making deals which are a loss.

I think you're wrong.

Stanley is more of a Quarter Pounder without cheese.

[gringo]

I hope like hell we get Nakia Cockatoo or someone good that comes on quick to dull the loss. If Stanley kicks 6 goals in his first game or something my head will explode.

[SaintPav]

For whats its worth Cats fans are not happy with this deal.

that's a good sign.

[Legendary]

What if Richo had said something like this to Pelchen, Bains and the others? (I'm not saying that this happened)

"I've seen Rhys for 12 months, I don't rate him as being in our best 22 by 2016, and I want to restructure our forward line next year with Lee and Membrey to give us multiple goal-kicking options, with Riewoldt pushing up the ground and Hickey resting forward".

How does the trade sound in that context?

[SaintPav]

I hope like hell we get Nakia Cockatoo or someone good that comes on quick to dull the loss. If Stanley kicks 6 goals in his first game or something my head will explode.

better midfield helps.

[skeptic]

Dont love this trade


Am not convinced we dame out on top

[dragit]

What if Richo had said something like this to Pelchen, Bains and the others? (I'm not saying that this happened)

"I've seen Rhys for 12 months, I don't rate him as being in our best 22 by 2016, and I want to restructure our forward line next year with Lee and Membrey to give us multiple goal-kicking options, with Riewoldt pushing up the ground and Hickey resting forward".

How does the trade sound in that context?

Absolutely, there could be many factors…

The pick is decent, we just need to find a replacement ruck/fwd.

[Armagizmo]

What if Richo had said something like this to Pelchen, Bains and the others? (I'm not saying that this happened)

"I've seen Rhys for 12 months, I don't rate him as being in our best 22 by 2016, and I want to restructure our forward line next year with Lee and Membrey to give us multiple goal-kicking options, with Riewoldt pushing up the ground and Hickey resting forward".

How does the trade sound in that context?

great bit of perspective Legendary.

[Jimmy O'Dea]

Great trade for us, what is it with our supporters, 75% of his games were insipid. No wonder the Cats supporters are so dirty.

[MCG-Unit]

Dont love this trade


Am not convinced we dame out on top

I'm not quite sure Saints came out damn on top either.....

Anyway deal is done - all the best to Stanley.

[paddy]

I think Rhys was always seen as the romantic replacement for Roo...

Big, Blonde and can Run.

good work saints, and all the best to Rhys, he will certainly win more games next year with the cats!

[MC Gusto]

Great trade!!!

Stanley has played a handful of good games in 5 seasons. Good luck to him but he's an athlete before a footballer and never really became a footballer

Saints won this trade by a fair margin

[SaintPav]

Dont love this trade


Am not convinced we dame out on top

Stanley will never be more than an above average player. He was originally pick # 47 so we have come out on top.

We need the draft picks and Stanley is replacable as implied above.

[bigballs]

Good luck to Rhys at his new home.

I always liked Rhys, but he never really got going for us, so unfortunately it was time to go.

Only time will tell whether we've done the right thing or not!!

[asiu]

I hope Shlinger doesn't blow a gasket.

que

that'll make the trade worthwhile wont it ?

[SaintPav]

I hope Shlinger doesn't blow a gasket.

que

that'll make the trade worthwhile wont it ?

oh yeah...

[tony74]

The worst thing that ever happened to Rhys was winning the grand final sprint. Made him look like a superstar in the making. Probably would have been moved on earlier if that hadn't happened.

[saintsRrising]

Looking at Knightmare's Phantom Draft:

Here are the players that may be there at 21/22

#16 Port Adelaide – Edward Vickers-Willis (VIC – Mid/Def)
Height: 190cm, Weight: 82kg, DOB: 28/03/1996
Recruited from: Sandringham Dragons
Range: 10-30
Profile: Tall, versatile type.


#17 Sydney – Isaac Heeney (Sydney academy- NSW/ACT - Mid/Def)
Height: 186cm, Weight: 82kg, DOB: 05/05/1996
Recruited from: Cardiff
Range: 1st round
Profile: Complete midfielder.


#18 Hawthorn – Tom Lamb (VIC - Util)
Height: 192cm, Weight: 83kg, DOB: 19/10/1996
Recruited from: Dandenong Stingrays
Range: 5-35
Profile: Versatile, athletic tall.


#19 Essendon (to be taken at end of first round) – Paul Ahern (VIC – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 181cm, Weight: 77kg, DOB: 01/08/1996
Recruited from: Calder Cannons
Range: 5-30
Profile: Damaging forward/midfielder.


#20 GWS (end of first round compensation) - Liam Duggan (VIC – Util)
Height: 183cm, Weight: 76kg, DOB: 11/12/1996
Recruited from: Western Jets
Range: 10-35
Profile: Classy versatile type.


#21 St Kilda – Jarrod Garlett (WA –Mid/Def)
Height: 177cm, Weight: 72kg, DOB: 18/08/1996
Recruited from: South Fremantle
Range: 15-35
Profile: Outside linebreaker.


#22 Melbourne - Billy Stretch (Melbourne – F/S – SA – Mid/Fwd):
Height: 182cm, Weight: 71kg, DOB: 8/09/1996
Recruited from: Glenelg
Range: 2nd/3rd round
Profile: Quick, high production outside type.


#23 GWS – Jack Steele (GWS academy - NSW – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 186cm, Weight: 82kg, DOB: 13/12/1995
Recruited from: Belconnen
Range: 2nd round - 4th round
Profile: Overage midfielder/forward.


#24 Brisbane - Liam Dawson (Brisbane academy - QLD – Util)
Height: 188m, Weight: 83kg, DOB: 23/01/1996
Recruited from: Aspley
Range: 2nd/3rd round
Profile: Versatile type.


#25 Western Bulldogs – Corey Ellis (VIC – Util)
Height: 185cm, Weight: 76kg, DOB: 09/10/1996
Recruited from: Western Jets
Range: 10-30
Profile: Skillful type.


#26 Carlton – Reece McKenzie (VIC – KPF/Ruck)
Height: 196cm, Weight: 100kg, DOB: 28/03/1996
Recruited from: Northern Knights
Range: 15-55
Profile: Big, contested marking key forward.


#27 Gold Coast - Peter Bampton (SA - Mid)
Height: 182cm, Weight: 83kg, DOB: 15/04/1996
Recruited from: Norwood
Range: 15-40
Profile: Strong bodied inside midfielder.


#28 Collingwood – Connor Menadue (VIC – Mid/Def)
Height: 188cm, Weight: 69kg, DOB: 19/09/1996
Recruited from: Western Jets
Range: 10-35
Profile: Explosive type with versatility.


#29 Adelaide – Damien Cavka (VIC – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 184cm, Weight: 79kg, DOB: 03/07/1996
Recruited from: Calder Cannons
Range: 15-45
Profile: Outside type.


#30 West Coast – Connon Blakely (WA – Mid)
Height: 186cm, Weight: 81kg, DOB: 03/02/1996
Recruited from: Swan Districts
Range: 15-40
Profile: Well-rounded midfielder.


If we keep 1 for Petracca...they may be after McKenzie with pick 21 or 22.

[LTN16]

For whats its worth Cats fans are not happy with this deal.

That makes this trade a whole lot better

[Bunk_Moreland]

So is everyone crying over here?