Richmond inquires about Armo

[samuraisaint]

I actually think that is a massive indictment on the decision to change coaches but we did it so there we are.

You're so right!

We should have stuck with Watters given everything we know about him.

is that an ironic tone? No idea what Watters actually did. I know that in his first year we went perilously close to msking finals again, with a winning percentage in the positive column, and had the third highest percentage in the league of 125% or something. I also know that we won more games in his second year than we did this year, and we were in a lot of games up til the death.
This year most of our games were well and truly over well before halfway through the second quarter, and that includes Lenny's farewell game against the Bullies who cohldn't even beat GWS.
We finished this season with our lowest % since 1955. 1955! And almost went through the season without scoring one century for the first time since 1960. 1960! If you are happy with that well that's your opinion, but it certainly isn't mine.

i know the players lit a dwarf on fire while Watters was coach, but all this blame shifting onto coaches is abit p*ssweak IMO.
My point is that we could have waited a year and saved over half a million bucks. Are you suggesting sacking a guy a year early, paying him out hslf a million bucks and finishing in our worst state since 1955 was a prudent business decision?

[plugger66]

I actually think that is a massive indictment on the decision to change coaches but we did it so there we are.

You're so right!

We should have stuck with Watters given everything we know about him.

is that an ironic tone? No idea what Watters actually did. I know that in his first year we went perilously close to msking finals again, with a winning percentage in the positive column, and had the third highest percentage in the league of 125% or something. I also know that we won more games in his second year than we did this year, and we were in a lot of games up til the death.
This year most of our games were well and truly over well before halfway through the second quarter, and that includes Lenny's farewell game against the Bullies who cohldn't even beat GWS.
We finished this season with our lowest % since 1955. 1955! And almost went through the season without scoring one century for the first time since 1960. 1960! If you are happy with that well that's your opinion, but it certainly isn't mine.

i know the players lit a dwarf on fire while Watters was coach, but all this blame shifting onto coaches is abit p*ssweak IMO.
My point is that we could have waited a year and saved over half a million bucks. Are you suggesting sacking a guy a year early, paying him out hslf a million bucks and finishing in our worst state since 1955 was a prudent business decision?

He had lost just about everyone at the club. Would have set us back even more. The guy lost the plot. And comparing this year to last is unfair as last years list was clearly better than this year.

[Con Gorozidis]

SEN reporting Jack Trengove to Tigers for pick 12.

So maybe the Armo to Tigers was discussed. Who knows. But Surely Armo is a better player than Trengove and the Tigers are definitely looking at the here and now.

The tiges clearly believe they are ready to challenge in the next 2 years and be top 4. They have paid overs from Hampson and now possibly Trengove. So they will need to get up there in the next two years. But I am not convinced Trengove is any good. Anyway. Thats how it goes.

[MCG-Unit]

I hope they don't trade out Armitage or Steven, not a smart move IMO. That said, I don't know how they will achieve the '3 picks in the first round' they want. Unless there's a bombshell happening next week (trade out a player) or trade No 1 DP

Would rather keep DP 1 and take Petracca....unless someone offers a massive overs deal.

[Wayne42]

SEN reporting Jack Trengove to Tigers for pick 12.

So maybe the Armo to Tigers was discussed. Who knows. But Surely Armo is a better player than Trengove and the Tigers are definitely looking at the here and now.

The tiges clearly believe they are ready to challenge in the next 2 years and be top 4. They have paid overs from Hampson and now possibly Trengove. So they will need to get up there in the next two years. But I am not convinced Trengove is any good. Anyway. Thats how it goes.

Wow, i hadn't heard about this possible trade....

[falka]

Maybe pick 4 n 7 for pick 3 n 12 if we rate top 3 clearly above the rest???

[Wrote for Luck]

the young guys still need to learn off someone in the midfield and without Armo there aren't too many more (Steven, Monty).

if Armo was to be traded we would need to replace him with another mature body - Cockie or something.

hope he stays because without him and Lenny blokes like Ross/Curren/Minchington/Weller will be stretched.

[plugger66]

the young guys still need to learn off someone in the midfield and without Armo there aren't too many more (Steven, Monty).

if Armo was to be traded we would need to replace him with another mature body - Cockie or something.

hope he stays because without him and Lenny blokes like Ross/Curren/Minchington/Weller will be stretched.

Cockie? Are we trying to get relegated?

[Dave McNamara]

Have no idea how you came up with that idea about them finishing one and two baring injury. Fanciful.

well its simple
you use your brain to come up with an idea
you think, and you then you think a bit more and then you go
aha!
'i think that if they didnt get injured they wouldve placed much much better in the b and f'

are you saying you have no idea how a thought process works?
stop taking the piss pluggsy

if they were injury free they wouldve placed MUCH better
one couldve even had a crack at winning it
are you saying that was not possible?

[Wrote for Luck]

the young guys still need to learn off someone in the midfield and without Armo there aren't too many more (Steven, Monty).

if Armo was to be traded we would need to replace him with another mature body - Cockie or something.

hope he stays because without him and Lenny blokes like Ross/Curren/Minchington/Weller will be stretched.

Cockie? Are we trying to get relegated?

always had a soft spot. but my point mostly being someone to come in comparable to Armo to lead.

[samuraisaint]

I actually think that is a massive indictment on the decision to change coaches but we did it so there we are.

You're so right!

We should have stuck with Watters given everything we know about him.

is that an ironic tone? No idea what Watters actually did. I know that in his first year we went perilously close to msking finals again, with a winning percentage in the positive column, and had the third highest percentage in the league of 125% or something. I also know that we won more games in his second year than we did this year, and we were in a lot of games up til the death.
This year most of our games were well and truly over well before halfway through the second quarter, and that includes Lenny's farewell game against the Bullies who cohldn't even beat GWS.
We finished this season with our lowest % since 1955. 1955! And almost went through the season without scoring one century for the first time since 1960. 1960! If you are happy with that well that's your opinion, but it certainly isn't mine.

i know the players lit a dwarf on fire while Watters was coach, but all this blame shifting onto coaches is abit p*ssweak IMO.
My point is that we could have waited a year and saved over half a million bucks. Are you suggesting sacking a guy a year early, paying him out hslf a million bucks and finishing in our worst state since 1955 was a prudent business decision?

He had lost just about everyone at the club. Would have set us back even more. The guy lost the plot. And comparing this year to last is unfair as last years list was clearly better than this year.

Fair enough. I heard him on SEN on the day he got sacked, but I had no idea that he had gone postal. And yes; I concede that Richo had less to work with.

[SydneySainter]

I actually think that is a massive indictment on the decision to change coaches but we did it so there we are.

You're so right!

We should have stuck with Watters given everything we know about him.

is that an ironic tone? No idea what Watters actually did. I know that in his first year we went perilously close to msking finals again, with a winning percentage in the positive column, and had the third highest percentage in the league of 125% or something. I also know that we won more games in his second year than we did this year, and we were in a lot of games up til the death.
This year most of our games were well and truly over well before halfway through the second quarter, and that includes Lenny's farewell game against the Bullies who cohldn't even beat GWS.
We finished this season with our lowest % since 1955. 1955! And almost went through the season without scoring one century for the first time since 1960. 1960! If you are happy with that well that's your opinion, but it certainly isn't mine.

i know the players lit a dwarf on fire while Watters was coach, but all this blame shifting onto coaches is abit p*ssweak IMO.
My point is that we could have waited a year and saved over half a million bucks. Are you suggesting sacking a guy a year early, paying him out hslf a million bucks and finishing in our worst state since 1955 was a prudent business decision?

He had lost just about everyone at the club. Would have set us back even more. The guy lost the plot. And comparing this year to last is unfair as last years list was clearly better than this year.

Fair enough. I heard him on SEN on the day he got sacked, but I had no idea that he had gone postal. And yes; I concede that Richo had less to work with.

Given how quickly all supporters turned on Watters, I'm still a little surprised that Richo gets so much benefit of the doubt, given that our list in 2013 was still a bottom four list.

Maybe he did lose the majority of the playing group, as well as the club admin, so it's better that he's gone.

Although, after the Lyon debacle, the senior coaching stint was a poisoned chalice, it was a question of who was prepared to drink from it first.

[saintspremiers]

I actually think that is a massive indictment on the decision to change coaches but we did it so there we are.

You're so right!

We should have stuck with Watters given everything we know about him.

is that an ironic tone? No idea what Watters actually did. I know that in his first year we went perilously close to msking finals again, with a winning percentage in the positive column, and had the third highest percentage in the league of 125% or something. I also know that we won more games in his second year than we did this year, and we were in a lot of games up til the death.
This year most of our games were well and truly over well before halfway through the second quarter, and that includes Lenny's farewell game against the Bullies who cohldn't even beat GWS.
We finished this season with our lowest % since 1955. 1955! And almost went through the season without scoring one century for the first time since 1960. 1960! If you are happy with that well that's your opinion, but it certainly isn't mine.

i know the players lit a dwarf on fire while Watters was coach, but all this blame shifting onto coaches is abit p*ssweak IMO.
My point is that we could have waited a year and saved over half a million bucks. Are you suggesting sacking a guy a year early, paying him out hslf a million bucks and finishing in our worst state since 1955 was a prudent business decision?

He had lost just about everyone at the club. Would have set us back even more. The guy lost the plot. And comparing this year to last is unfair as last years list was clearly better than this year.

Fair enough. I heard him on SEN on the day he got sacked, but I had no idea that he had gone postal. And yes; I concede that Richo had less to work with.

Given how quickly all supporters turned on Watters, I'm still a little surprised that Richo gets so much benefit of the doubt, given that our list in 2013 was still a bottom four list.

Maybe he did lose the majority of the playing group, as well as the club admin, so it's better that he's gone.

Although, after the Lyon debacle, the senior coaching stint was a poisoned chalice, it was a question of who was prepared to drink from it first.

Will be interesting how AR is judged at the end of 2015 after another spoon.

I personally won't judge him until mid 2016, when we should start to become competitive in at least half our games.

[Dis Believer]

Will be interesting to see if this bobs up again given that the Trengrove to Richmond deal has fallen over (he has re-injured his navicular).

[matrix]

thought exactly the same thing when i justt heard that on the radio

[spert]

I actually think that is a massive indictment on the decision to change coaches but we did it so there we are.

You're so right!

We should have stuck with Watters given everything we know about him.

is that an ironic tone? No idea what Watters actually did. I know that in his first year we went perilously close to msking finals again, with a winning percentage in the positive column, and had the third highest percentage in the league of 125% or something. I also know that we won more games in his second year than we did this year, and we were in a lot of games up til the death.
This year most of our games were well and truly over well before halfway through the second quarter, and that includes Lenny's farewell game against the Bullies who cohldn't even beat GWS.
We finished this season with our lowest % since 1955. 1955! And almost went through the season without scoring one century for the first time since 1960. 1960! If you are happy with that well that's your opinion, but it certainly isn't mine.

i know the players lit a dwarf on fire while Watters was coach, but all this blame shifting onto coaches is abit p*ssweak IMO.
My point is that we could have waited a year and saved over half a million bucks. Are you suggesting sacking a guy a year early, paying him out hslf a million bucks and finishing in our worst state since 1955 was a prudent business decision?

He had lost just about everyone at the club. Would have set us back even more. The guy lost the plot. And comparing this year to last is unfair as last years list was clearly better than this year.

Fair enough. I heard him on SEN on the day he got sacked, but I had no idea that he had gone postal. And yes; I concede that Richo had less to work with.

Given how quickly all supporters turned on Watters, I'm still a little surprised that Richo gets so much benefit of the doubt, given that our list in 2013 was still a bottom four list.

Maybe he did lose the majority of the playing group, as well as the club admin, so it's better that he's gone.

Although, after the Lyon debacle, the senior coaching stint was a poisoned chalice, it was a question of who was prepared to drink from it first.

Will be interesting how AR is judged at the end of 2015 after another spoon.

I personally won't judge him until mid 2016, when we should start to become competitive in at least half our games.

AR looks to have the inspirational tools of a wet lettuce, so I reckon he needs a big 2015. Watters was the victim of weak leadership at the club more than anything, but 'nuff said there.

[matrix]

what do you mean by the inspirational tools of a wet lettuce?

[spert]

what do you mean by the inspirational tools of a wet lettuce?

If you've ever been coached by a wet lettuce kind of guy you would know

[MC Gusto]

Supposedly trengrove failed the medical..?

[Dis Believer]

Supposedly trengrove failed the medical..?

correct - has reinjured a navicular....

[matrix]

what do you mean by the inspirational tools of a wet lettuce?

If you've ever been coached by a wet lettuce kind of guy you would know

so im guessing you have and somehow youve made this connection to AR being a wet lettuce?
you know this ...how?
im generally curious as to how youve come up with this AR is a wet lettuce with his inspiration

[Bunk_Moreland]

what do you mean by the inspirational tools of a wet lettuce?

If you've ever been coached by a wet lettuce kind of guy you would know

so im guessing you have and somehow youve made this connection to AR being a wet lettuce?
you know this ...how?
im generally curious as to how youve come up with this AR is a wet lettuce with his inspiration

yes - so am I.

Explain the rationale behind this insult.

[matrix]

im not trolling at all (never!)
just generally interested on this opinion

[st_Trav_ofWA]

Spurt i think you are Waaaaaayy off the mark with AR ... AR is a cooler headed coach he doesnt get angry as such .. Watters used to talk for the sake of talking and would often repeat himself and then contradict himself he was all puff and blow hence why the players never really brought into him as a coach and as a person with the teaching of Mick Malthouse scott came into the club instantly stamping his authority that he was boss and demanded he was listened to... after the years of Ross Lyon who through years of hard work and sharing highs and lows with this group had the ultimate respect from the players Scott came in and basically tryed to erase the Lyon era and force himself onto the group they ultimatly saw him as a tool hence Watters never got the respect of the group to the point where Roo was somewhat entertaining a move to Collingwood ..
under Richo he is a more gently gently approach he is getting the respect from the young guys as he is sticking to his word by giving games to kids who deserve games he is winning over the older guys by empowering them to leave their legacy on the club through the young guys they are mentoring .. Richo might come accross as a "wet Lettuce" but i think while we go through this era we need that more than a yell yell push push madman coach ... testiment to that is the 19 contract extentions the players have signed the guys want to stay at the club not move on ..

[The OtherThommo]

I wonder if the Tigs will come back? Based on Trengrove's type, they appear pretty keen to find a replacement for Daniel Jackson (if that's been mentioned before, apol's).

Couldn't cop Jackson, meself, but Richmond clearly rated him and thought him uniquely hard out of their their mids.