Saints Interested In Boyd!!

[remboy]

Who is this P66 bloke?

He is me. A nobody on a footy forum who could be lying or telling the truth everytime he says something as fact.

And I always took everything you said as gospel.

[plugger66]

Who is this P66 bloke?

He is me. A nobody on a footy forum who could be lying or telling the truth everytime he says something as fact.

And I always took everything you said as gospel.

There is always one.

[Wayne42]

Who is this P66 bloke?

He is me. A nobody on a footy forum who could be lying or telling the truth everytime he says something as fact.

And I always took everything you said as gospel.

I don't, but i do like to read it, i see the humour in it all...

[dragit]

dragit interested in Miranda Kerr.

[stinger]

I will be livid if we trade out Steven, and will criticize the decision accordingly if it eventuates.
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i wrote to the club last year asking them not to let dal go..didn't make any difference of course. but....if jack goes i also will be livid...and may not renew my membership.....or any of the other 5 memberships i currently pay for

[stinger]

From BrianSpeaking " bigfooty

Our offer to Cameron was 5 years $4 million and Boyd 5 years $3 million plus our first pick to GWS back in July.
Just so happens our first pick is pick 1.

As I said on the weekend, s***s about to get real.
The Bulldogs president is a flog, did anyone hear him on MMM this morning? Their former skipper Gary Ablett esque? What a first rate flog.

So much for reactive

he forgot all sbout buddy too....and bj....dal....

[markp]

dragit interested in Miranda Kerr.

She'd be worth giving 1.

[HitTheBoundary]

I will be livid if we trade out Steven, and will criticize the decision accordingly if it eventuates.
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i wrote to the club last year asking them not to let dal go..didn't make any difference of course. but....if jack goes i also will be livid...and may not renew my membership.....or any of the other 5 memberships i currently pay for

Will you also quit posting here?

[plugger66]

I will be livid if we trade out Steven, and will criticize the decision accordingly if it eventuates.
.

i wrote to the club last year asking them not to let dal go..didn't make any difference of course. but....if jack goes i also will be livid...and may not renew my membership.....or any of the other 5 memberships i currently pay for

Sounds very childish.

[st_Trav_ofWA]

Steven is a great player no doubt but is he the guy you can build a club around ? he had a great year in his B&F year but he had the likes of Dal Lenny and Joey takeing the majority of the heat that year so while it was a breakout year its still yet to be seen if it can be built on -

i dont want him traded dont get me wrong but its hardly the end of the world if he does get traded ... its not membership tearing material .. he is in our top 5 players at the club but lets be honest we are the wooden spooners for a reason and that is we dont have the spread of quallity so if the deal comes that sees us able to add more quality by taking a backwards step then so be it ..

[st_Trav_ofWA]

I will be livid if we trade out Steven, and will criticize the decision accordingly if it eventuates.
.

i wrote to the club last year asking them not to let dal go..didn't make any difference of course. but....if jack goes i also will be livid...and may not renew my membership.....or any of the other 5 memberships i currently pay for

Sounds very childish.

would expect nothing less from Stinger .... acting like a toddler screaming in a shop is his standard when it comes to things like this ...

[Wrote for Luck]

Boyd's only been there a year and should be heads down learning his craft. What's going on at the moment? I personally would question his integrity a little.

[Bunk_Moreland]

From BrianSpeaking " bigfooty

Our offer to Cameron was 5 years $4 million and Boyd 5 years $3 million plus our first pick to GWS back in July.
Just so happens our first pick is pick 1.

As I said on the weekend, s***s about to get real.
The Bulldogs president is a flog, did anyone hear him on MMM this morning? Their former skipper Gary Ablett esque? What a first rate flog.

So much for reactive

Haha, quoting an anonymous football forum poster as evidence against a newspaper article that just dropped after the bulldogs showed their hand.

And that is supposed to prove a point. ok.

I dont give a stuff, people like you are never convinced. All I know is that this was reported by BS back in July about offers to Cameron and Boyd.

believe what you like because all you want to do is critisise what you are ignorant of.

But carry on, it is amusing.

[LTN16]

He never said that he wanted to just come back to Vic he said he wants to go to Bulldogs..

So for that reason I think where a very slim chance of getting him.

[evo]

At this stage I would just about give ol' leftie for Boyd (along with with Pick 1!!!)

He provides the perfect transition from the Reiwoldt generation to the next generation. The leadership and skills he had as an under 18 haven't disappeared, he would be a fantastic leader for our club for the next decade.

As plenty of good judges say, good mids are a dime a dozen, good key position players are solid gold.

Mark my words, over the next 10 years time, Boyd will be much more important to his club's fortunes than Petracca will.

Absolutely !! We would also get a marquee player that would sell memberships.

[dragit]

Boyd's only been there a year and should be heads down learning his craft. What's going on at the moment? I personally would question his integrity a little.

I don't understand this thinking too much.

It doesn't mater if you've done 1 year or ten, if someone offers you $5,000,000 for 6 years which is probably double what his current employer has offered, then he should take it.

The sport is professional, football is a job.

GWS is a make believe franchise gifted all the players in the country, they have no integrity and are owed nothing.

[gringo]

Boyd's only been there a year and should be heads down learning his craft. What's going on at the moment? I personally would question his integrity a little.

I don't understand this thinking too much.

It doesn't mater if you've done 1 year or ten, if someone offers you $5,000,000 for 6 years which is probably double what his current employer has offered, then he should take it.

The sport is professional, football is a job.

GWS is a make believe franchise gifted all the players in the country, they have no integrity and are owed nothing.

Especially after seeing how Patton is going. He might get a contract worth $4million and even if he goes down with a permanent injury and never plays a game he is getting that banked. Added to the fact that as kid from Melbourne sent up to a non AFL state amongst guys who have already been there a few years and bonded. I can see why he would be incredibly tempted to move.

[evo]

Think the Boyd move is just a smokescreen from a club bleeding players and loosing thier coach and captain.

[Scollop]

At this stage I would just about give ol' leftie for Boyd (along with with Pick 1!!!)

He provides the perfect transition from the Reiwoldt generation to the next generation. The leadership and skills he had as an under 18 haven't disappeared, he would be a fantastic leader for our club for the next decade.

As plenty of good judges say, good mids are a dime a dozen, good key position players are solid gold.

Mark my words, over the next 10 years time, Boyd will be much more important to his club's fortunes than Petracca will.

Save ol' leftie... and just bloody recruit 'W'rightie

At the start of 2014 and for the most part of 2013 Peter Wright was touted as the favourite for No 1 in this years draft. Most have him as a top 5 prospect right now but what's changed?

Has Peter dropped off a bit or is it that guys like Petracca have had outstanding years. I think it's the latter. I still think Wright has more upside and more long term value than Petracca. I think he's a better prospect than Joe Daniher and more versatile. Definitely a better kick than Joe and probably as good a mark as Jake Carlisle (Plus... Peter loves playing in the forward line)

So what are the negatives against Peter Wright?

Can "Two Meter Peter" be as good as Boyd? Maybe in 2-3 years time - yes!! That is when we'll be needing these guys. We have the No.1 pick and I reckon we shouldn't pass up solid gold talent like Wright.

I don't envy Elshaugh and his team and it's a tough job also for the Pelican trying to pull off trades and securing multiple early picks. I just hope we don't miss our chance to secure a gun tall forward.

[defacto]

Steven is a great player no doubt but is he the guy you can build a club around ? he had a great year in his B&F year but he had the likes of Dal Lenny and Joey takeing the majority of the heat that year so while it was a breakout year its still yet to be seen if it can be built on -

i dont want him traded dont get me wrong but its hardly the end of the world if he does get traded ... its not membership tearing material .. he is in our top 5 players at the club but lets be honest we are the wooden spooners for a reason and that is we dont have the spread of quallity so if the deal comes that sees us able to add more quality by taking a backwards step then so be it ..

i agree trav. he will never be the person you build a midfield around. he's a bit of x factor you add to a very solid strong midfield. someone when added to it will be very potent.

but the issue with steven, is the hidden detail. he is our most rotated player, he is a burst player that at times can be poor by foot. his biggest issue is his tank, at a time when the cap is going to promote endurance, repeat sprinters rather than the burst players of 2004-2011

theres a very real risk the game can go past him

[plugger66]

At this stage I would just about give ol' leftie for Boyd (along with with Pick 1!!!)

He provides the perfect transition from the Reiwoldt generation to the next generation. The leadership and skills he had as an under 18 haven't disappeared, he would be a fantastic leader for our club for the next decade.

As plenty of good judges say, good mids are a dime a dozen, good key position players are solid gold.

Mark my words, over the next 10 years time, Boyd will be much more important to his club's fortunes than Petracca will.

Save ol' leftie... and just bloody recruit 'W'rightie

At the start of 2014 and for the most part of 2013 Peter Wright was touted as the favourite for No 1 in this years draft. Most have him as a top 5 prospect right now but what's changed?

Has Peter dropped off a bit or is it that guys like Petracca have had outstanding years. I think it's the latter. I still think Wright has more upside and more long term value than Petracca. I think he's a better prospect than Joe Daniher and more versatile. Definitely a better kick than Joe and probably as good a mark as Jake Carlisle (Plus... Peter loves playing in the forward line)

So what are the negatives against Peter Wright?

Can "Two Meter Peter" be as good as Boyd? Maybe in 2-3 years time - yes!! That is when we'll be needing these guys. We have the No.1 pick and I reckon we shouldn't pass up solid gold talent like Wright.

I don't envy Elshaugh and his team and it's a tough job also for the Pelican trying to pull off trades and securing multiple early picks. I just hope we don't miss our chance to secure a gun tall forward.

He would be the last of the bigger players I would take. He is a ruck forward. Obviously we have 5 ruckmen as it is and ruckmen these days should never go top 10. Leave him to others. We need mids and then more mids and then another lot of mids. Look what Brisbane are building. Fantastic lot of mids.

[Saint wagga]

At this stage I would just about give ol' leftie for Boyd (along with with Pick 1!!!)

He provides the perfect transition from the Reiwoldt generation to the next generation. The leadership and skills he had as an under 18 haven't disappeared, he would be a fantastic leader for our club for the next decade.

As plenty of good judges say, good mids are a dime a dozen, good key position players are solid gold.

Mark my words, over the next 10 years time, Boyd will be much more important to his club's fortunes than Petracca will.

Save ol' leftie... and just bloody recruit 'W'rightie

At the start of 2014 and for the most part of 2013 Peter Wright was touted as the favourite for No 1 in this years draft. Most have him as a top 5 prospect right now but what's changed?

Has Peter dropped off a bit or is it that guys like Petracca have had outstanding years. I think it's the latter. I still think Wright has more upside and more long term value than Petracca. I think he's a better prospect than Joe Daniher and more versatile. Definitely a better kick than Joe and probably as good a mark as Jake Carlisle (Plus... Peter loves playing in the forward line)

So what are the negatives against Peter Wright?

Can "Two Meter Peter" be as good as Boyd? Maybe in 2-3 years time - yes!! That is when we'll be needing these guys. We have the No.1 pick and I reckon we shouldn't pass up solid gold talent like Wright.

I don't envy Elshaugh and his team and it's a tough job also for the Pelican trying to pull off trades and securing multiple early picks. I just hope we don't miss our chance to secure a gun tall forward.

He would be the last of the bigger players I would take. He is a ruck forward. Obviously we have 5 ruckmen as it is and ruckmen these days should never go top 10. Leave him to others. We need mids and then more mids and then another lot of mids. Look what Brisbane are building. Fantastic lot of mids.

Don't know if i'm as 'mid focussed' as you Plugger - of course you need good mid depth, but can't discount having twin towers up forward. I know your not discounting having quality forwards altogether, but you do seem to be placing a massive emphasis on the mids at all cost...Like what the Hawks did with Buddy and Roughie vs Delidio and Tambling...high draft Mids are no sure thing at the draft either eg. Scully trengove.

I'm still giving some love to the young power forwards at the draft. Roo did nothing in year 1, then came out and won a B+F in year 2. If Boyd was willing, i'd snag him in a heartbeat...but that could all be academic this year IMO...

[matrix]

pmsl

he aint coming to us
shesh, get over that dream

[Pleasing]

I think our interest in Boyd is purely to ensure the Bulldogs pay overs to GWS, the more GWS get the more options we have for trading pick 1 and maybe build some good will into the bargin. Boyd would be a fantastic get but the Bulldogs are offering stupid money and we will need that money come 2016 on-wards for the Free Agent push.

Bulldogs clearly just took Griffens salary for next couple of years and added it to their offer for Boyd. No doubt we could match it but it is more about what that does to our cap and strategy over the next few years. Stick to the strategy multiple first round picks build the talent base and spread the risk.

4 & 7 + ? for 1 means we will get one of McCartin or Wright and develop our own tall forward at base pay

[Dis Believer]

I think our interest in Boyd is purely to ensure the Bulldogs pay overs to GWS, the more GWS get the more options we have for trading pick 1 and maybe build some good will into the bargin. Boyd would be a fantastic get but the Bulldogs are offering stupid money and we will need that money come 2016 on-wards for the Free Agent push.

Bulldogs clearly just took Griffens salary for next couple of years and added it to their offer for Boyd. No doubt we could match it but it is more about what that does to our cap and strategy over the next few years. Stick to the strategy multiple first round picks build the talent base and spread the risk.

4 & 7 + ? for 1 means we will get one of McCartin or Wright and develop our own tall forward at base pay

This. It is being reported that the deal between Carlton and GWS is done, which means pick seven is now going to GWS. That gives them 4 & 7 and if it all goes through the way I reckon , they will lose Boyd for Griffin and pick 6. I reckon we will offer them pick 1 for pick 4 & 6 and steak knives (late teens or early twenties pick, or maybe Jack Frost).