Richo on drafting Saad

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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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plugger66 wrote:
gringo wrote:I watched some old games when I stayed somewhere with foxtel and we watched a game against carlton from a couple of years ago. Saad looked like a gun. Was one of our best players. It's easy to forget how good he was. Most of his games were along side Milney too who got all the traffic that didn't go to Rooey.

Light watching highlights packages. You can pick one game where Shenton did very well but he maybe delisted. His last season was ordinary and he was dropped at least twice. It looks like we will take him but he should be a rookie. We already have plenty of players that get dropped from time to time.

Highlights packages are still a decent window but don't always show the bad habits. I remember watching Ledgers VFL highlights last year and every kick seemed to go to the opposition though. Saad had a great game and you can't fake that. Watching a full game and seeing his involvement and application does show his ability just not consistency but he was better than I had remembered. His last year was less impressive than his first but he wouldn't be the first player to have second year blues.


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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gringo wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
gringo wrote:I watched some old games when I stayed somewhere with foxtel and we watched a game against carlton from a couple of years ago. Saad looked like a gun. Was one of our best players. It's easy to forget how good he was. Most of his games were along side Milney too who got all the traffic that didn't go to Rooey.

Light watching highlights packages. You can pick one game where Shenton did very well but he maybe delisted. His last season was ordinary and he was dropped at least twice. It looks like we will take him but he should be a rookie. We already have plenty of players that get dropped from time to time.

Highlights packages are still a decent window but don't always show the bad habits. I remember watching Ledgers VFL highlights last year and every kick seemed to go to the opposition though. Saad had a great game and you can't fake that. Watching a full game and seeing his involvement and application does show his ability just not consistency but he was better than I had remembered. His last year was less impressive than his first but he wouldn't be the first player to have second year blues.

No he wouldnt but he wont have trained in the AFL for 18 months and he will be around 25 years of age.


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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bergholt wrote:
lewdogs wrote:Good news. I loved Ahmed, has a lot to offer and still young.
You know he'll be 25 in a couple of months, right? I wouldn't call that "still young".
But right in the middle of our "missing" demographic (although I grant you a season's experience shorter because of the ASADA holiday).


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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Saad had a long long way to go before the suspension IMO, and quite frankly, I didnt think he'd make it..

He's even further behind now, and I honestly can't see how he can be of any real use.

If he is not the level of Walters or Ballentine as a pure small forward, then he is not worth persisting with as then he'll need to be able to transition through the midfield, which he has never shown any indication he can do.

These days, if you are to be pigeon holed into 1 specific position, you need to be super elite, otherwise multiple roles are necessary.


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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I'd have him back as long as the club is allowed to put him through tests before hand. Is he allowed to interact with a club in that manner?


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Griggsy wrote:I'd have him back as long as the club is allowed to put him through tests before hand. Is he allowed to interact with a club in that manner?
Not until the suspension is up. The only interaction the club can have is by providing welfare services.


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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Old Mate wrote:
Griggsy wrote:I'd have him back as long as the club is allowed to put him through tests before hand. Is he allowed to interact with a club in that manner?
Not until the suspension is up. The only interaction the club can have is by providing welfare services.
Didn't I read somewhere they have obtained (or at least asked for) permission to conduct fitness tests in advance of the draft?


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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SemperFidelis wrote:
Old Mate wrote:
Griggsy wrote:I'd have him back as long as the club is allowed to put him through tests before hand. Is he allowed to interact with a club in that manner?
Not until the suspension is up. The only interaction the club can have is by providing welfare services.
Didn't I read somewhere they have obtained (or at least asked for) permission to conduct fitness tests in advance of the draft?
You read right SF....don't think it's been approved yet.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/s ... 6959066932


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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Sobraz wrote:Saad had a long long way to go before the suspension IMO, and quite frankly, I didnt think he'd make it..

He's even further behind now, and I honestly can't see how he can be of any real use.

If he is not the level of Walters or Ballentine as a pure small forward, then he is not worth persisting with as then he'll need to be able to transition through the midfield, which he has never shown any indication he can do.

These days, if you are to be pigeon holed into 1 specific position, you need to be super elite, otherwise multiple roles are necessary.
pbly sums it up for me

i like the guy


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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Good luck to him.


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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I like Saady I hope he gets another crack.


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gringo wrote:I like Saady I hope he gets another crack.

Why not. We haven't got enough suggested players yet with AFL experience. I will actually be pissed off it we pick one under 18 players. Lets just get all AFL experienced players.


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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With 4 rookie spots, Saad is a shoe-in to be rookied.


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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dragit wrote:With 4 rookie spots, Saad is a shoe-in to be rookied.

He is but surely that isn't what we as a bottom side should be using it for.


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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plugger66 wrote:
dragit wrote:With 4 rookie spots, Saad is a shoe-in to be rookied.

He is but surely that isn't what we as a bottom side should be using it for.
The guy played better footy in his short career than half our side did this year… so I have no problems with adding him, he will improve the list & has some elite qualities.


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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plugger66 wrote:
gringo wrote:I like Saady I hope he gets another crack.

Why not. We haven't got enough suggested players yet with AFL experience. I will actually be pissed off it we pick one under 18 players. Lets just get all AFL experienced players.

Saad is a fairly known quantity and fills a hole with TDL and Milera gone. I think there is a big difference between him and a GWS kid who is basically a draft pick with 2 years development. Jaksche is not in the same boat as a has been like O Keefe. I think Saad is still young enough and a positive influence around the club. He can also play a bit.


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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dragit wrote:
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dragit wrote:With 4 rookie spots, Saad is a shoe-in to be rookied.

He is but surely that isn't what we as a bottom side should be using it for.
The guy played better footy in his short career than half our side did this year… so I have no problems with adding him, he will improve the list & has some elite qualities.
But he cant play till round 12 baring injury. Don't see any point at all. He will be rookied by us though.


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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plugger66 wrote:
dragit wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
dragit wrote:With 4 rookie spots, Saad is a shoe-in to be rookied.

He is but surely that isn't what we as a bottom side should be using it for.
The guy played better footy in his short career than half our side did this year… so I have no problems with adding him, he will improve the list & has some elite qualities.
But he cant play till round 12 baring injury. Don't see any point at all. He will be rookied by us though.
Huh?

He's eligible from February 2015, isn't he?


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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I am hoping he has spent some of his time out working on his left foot - that will bring another dimension to his game


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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SemperFidelis wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
dragit wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
dragit wrote:With 4 rookie spots, Saad is a shoe-in to be rookied.

He is but surely that isn't what we as a bottom side should be using it for.
The guy played better footy in his short career than half our side did this year… so I have no problems with adding him, he will improve the list & has some elite qualities.
But he cant play till round 12 baring injury. Don't see any point at all. He will be rookied by us though.
Huh?

He's eligible from February 2015, isn't he?
Me thinks he means, if Saad iis on the rookie list he wont get a game unless there is a long term injury........... or until that rule re upgrading rookies comes in sometime around June/July??


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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SemperFidelis wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
dragit wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
dragit wrote:With 4 rookie spots, Saad is a shoe-in to be rookied.

He is but surely that isn't what we as a bottom side should be using it for.
The guy played better footy in his short career than half our side did this year… so I have no problems with adding him, he will improve the list & has some elite qualities.
But he cant play till round 12 baring injury. Don't see any point at all. He will be rookied by us though.
Huh?

He's eligible from February 2015, isn't he?

If he is rookied. Surely we wont waste our limited picks on him in the main draft.


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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Ah. Thanks Loris. It's been a long day ...


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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SemperFidelis wrote:Ah. Thanks Loris. It's been a long day ...
That's OK..... is that horse hair wig scrambling the brain a little :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:


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Re: Richo on drafting Saad

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loris wrote:
SemperFidelis wrote:Ah. Thanks Loris. It's been a long day ...
That's OK..... is that horse hair wig scrambling the brain a little :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
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