GWS to get pick 1

[fugazi]

Like I said in another thread, don't be surprised if Jeremy Cameron is wearing the Red, White and Black in a couple of weeks.

is this a guess or inside info andrewg?

[rodrocket]

I want Petracca. But surely we have the whip hand, so if GWS want him so badly they need to pay overs, eg CAMERON AND SHIELDS or HOSKIN ELLIOT etc. Jaksch and and Orourke have played only a few games and shown very little to date.

[andrewg]

Not a guess I promise....while it isn't a lock it comes from someone close to the club. Basically we want him bad and are doing everything to get him including trading pick one.

Not a guess but not a definite. Just one possibility and for me the most preferred one.

But you never know until he sitting at that press conference.

[plugger66]

Not a guess I promise....while it isn't a lock it comes from someone close to the club. Basically we want him bad and are doing everything to get him including trading pick one.

Not a guess but not a definite. Just one possibility and for me the most preferred one.

But you never know until he sitting at that press conference.

Its time you got one right just for confidence

[evo]

Looks like Brian_Speaking was on the money. Hope so.

[saintspremiers]

The player I want from GWS is Sheil. He's a proven starstar already. Just what we need.

[bergholt]

The player I want from GWS is Sheil. He's a proven starstar already. Just what we need.

So is Cameron, surely?

[fugazi]

Cameron for pick 1 is fair....he is already very good and could well turn into the best forward in the league

Getting their current pick 3 for say Monty would be great

[fugazi]

Cameron for pick 1 is fair....he is already very good and could well turn into the best forward in the league

Getting their current pick 3 for say Monty would be great

[fugazi]

Cameron for pick 1 is fair....he is already very good and could well turn into the best forward in the league

Getting their current pick 3 for say Monty would be great

[Sobraz]

Personally don't think Shiel is that good. Every chance Petracca will overtake him quickly.
Treloar and WHE are the two I'd have at the very top of the list.

[bergholt]

Getting their current pick 3 for say Monty would be great

Where do we sign!? I'll drive him up there myself.

[plugger66]

Looks like Brian_Speaking was on the money. Hope so.

Based on what? I haven't read anything at all from people who would know. Im sorry but I don't count anyone on here based on previous form and to those who will abuse it obviously includes me. In 7 years on here I reckon we have got about 5 right. Cameron sounds like huge odds to me considering he has a contract and we haven't bottomed out. Money is our only hope. We would need a million. He is worth that but still think pick one cant get it done especially with Patton gone.

[stinger]

Getting their current pick 3 for say Monty would be great

Where do we sign!? I'll drive him up there myself.

the dees will have pick 3...

[Old Mate]

Looks like Brian_Speaking was on the money. Hope so.

Based on what? I haven't read anything at all from people who would know. Im sorry but I don't count anyone on here based on previous form and to those who will abuse it obviously includes me. In 7 years on here I reckon we have got about 5 right. Cameron sounds like huge odds to me considering he has a contract and we haven't bottomed out. Money is our only hope. We would need a million. He is worth that but still think pick one cant get it done especially with Patton gone.

Last year Jaxons got the Longer, Delaney, Bruce & Savage/McEvoy trades spot on. He even knew the picks to be used prior to the trades going through. The only thing I recall him getting wrong was Choco as coach. Who knows possibly he was a lock at one stage until Richo became avail.

In regards to the Cameron trade it seems unlikely especially with Patton out next year but there's two sources that say he at least wants to come to St Kilda and an in principle offer has been accepted pending release from GWS.

[Bunk_Moreland]

Looks like Brian_Speaking was on the money. Hope so.

Based on what? I haven't read anything at all from people who would know. Im sorry but I don't count anyone on here based on previous form and to those who will abuse it obviously includes me. In 7 years on here I reckon we have got about 5 right. Cameron sounds like huge odds to me considering he has a contract and we haven't bottomed out. Money is our only hope. We would need a million. He is worth that but still think pick one cant get it done especially with Patton gone.

I would say that the only reason that GWS would do the Cameron deal this year is that Cameron is out of contract next season. If, as expected we are down the bottom next year even with #1 of the PSD GWS may get nothing for him, or we would hold the whip hand in a trade.

This of course is predicated on the fact that

1) Cameron still want s out
2) We are #1 in the PSD
3) Cameron would get the best offer from us for a PSD draft
4) GWS doesn't get a better trade offer.

So lots of ifs and buts.

personally I would look at the Jaksch JOR and pick 4 deal and then pick up either McCartin or Wright @ pick 4 or if Melbourne pick both with 2 &3 (unlikely), we would still get Brayshaw.

[Eastern]

Could it be that Chris Pelchen went on a "Fishing Expedition" in that interview on SEN? If so, he has reeled in plenty, including some/plenty on here. Afterall, we are in the middle of Draft/Trade RUMOUR SEASON !!

[matrix]

im with dave

get cameron

[LTN16]

Could it be that Chris Pelchen went on a "Fishing Expedition" in that interview on SEN? If so, he has reeled in plenty, including some/plenty on here. Afterall, we are in the middle of Draft/Trade RUMOUR SEASON !!

Well Jeremy Cameron likes fishing so I'm putting two and two together?

[evertonfc]

It won't be Cameron. It just won't be. They have zero interest in trading him.

They'll look to package up their fringe players - O'Rourke and Jaksch - most probably with Pick Four and then see what we will give them in return. That'll be Pick 1, plus James Gwilt, plus something further down the draft.

We already know GWS wants Gwilt (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/melbourne- ... 0fpiq.html) and if there's a three-way tussle between them, Adelaide and Melbourne, his trade value increases.

Which is why I'll never understand why the club announced publicly that he was out - arguably halving his potential trade value at the outset. Lets hope his trade value gets driven up towards the third-round pick mark.

[Mr Magic]

Isn't Gwilt delisted by us?
If s, how do we trade a player who is not on our list?

[matrix]

It won't be Cameron. It just won't be. They have zero interest in trading him.

They'll look to package up their fringe players - O'Rourke and Jaksch - most probably with Pick Four and then see what we will give them in return. That'll be Pick 1, plus James Gwilt, plus something further down the draft.

We already know GWS wants Gwilt (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/melbourne- ... 0fpiq.html) and if there's a three-way tussle between them, Adelaide and Melbourne, his trade value increases.

Which is why I'll never understand why the club announced publicly that he was out - arguably halving his potential trade value at the outset. Lets hope his trade value gets driven up towards the third-round pick mark.

they can have zero interest in trading him all they like
then they can lose him for nothing the year after

you reckon if he said 'i want out' they would look at trading him?
or let him go for nothing after one more years service?

going to be an interesting off season
ryder wanting out
beams wanting out
dangerfield rumors
cameron rumors

pick one on the table
teams trading picks and players willy nilly before FA hits them

love it

[Bunk_Moreland]

It won't be Cameron. It just won't be. They have zero interest in trading him.

They'll look to package up their fringe players - O'Rourke and Jaksch - most probably with Pick Four and then see what we will give them in return. That'll be Pick 1, plus James Gwilt, plus something further down the draft.

We already know GWS wants Gwilt (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/melbourne- ... 0fpiq.html) and if there's a three-way tussle between them, Adelaide and Melbourne, his trade value increases.

Which is why I'll never understand why the club announced publicly that he was out - arguably halving his potential trade value at the outset. Lets hope his trade value gets driven up towards the third-round pick mark.

they can have zero interest in trading him all they like
then they can lose him for nothing the year after

you reckon if he said 'i want out' they would look at trading him?
or let him go for nothing after one more years service?

going to be an interesting off season
ryder wanting out
beams wanting out
dangerfield rumors
cameron rumors

pick one on the table
teams trading picks and players willy nilly before FA hits them

love it

That's it in a nutshell matrix.

Depends how much GWS want Petracca.

if they are desperate they will have to trade overs.

If they want to give their dregs in the hope of snaring #1 forget it.

If we don't trade, we get Petracca. If we trade it might be Reid and Mitchell for pick #1

The player who can walk away from the deal is the player with the power.

We cant lose. Worst case scenario is we retain the #1 pick.

Wow what a tragedy

[skeptic]

Cameron for pick 1 is fair....he is already very good and could well turn into the best forward in the league

Getting their current pick 3 for say Monty would be great

We're not interested in fair though.

Us keeping pick 1 and using it on Petracca is also fair
If they want it badly enough... Make them pay

Shiels and Cameron is an outrageous price... Start there and negotiate until we get a good deal

Essentially what we would be losing is the player deemed as the next Chris Judd, remember that

[Sobraz]

Essentially what we would be losing is the player deemed as the next Chris Judd, remember that

If he is that good then its not worth trading him for anything. Literally Cameron + 4 is not worth a Judd level player IMO..

So it comes down to is Patracca really the next Judd, or do we see him as realistically a rung below?