More delistings - TDL and Dunnell

[Trev from the Bush]

From the Club's websitehttp://www.saints.com.au/news/2014-09-0 ... st-changes

No surprises. TDL's highlight DVD at the Saints would be a "blink and you'll miss it" job. Sammy Dunnell - fine battler, top VFL player. Unfortunately for him just so-so height, build, pace and skill. Like the guy, just a pity he fell short of what's required in today's AFL. Wish both of them well.

[Eastern]

That's SEVEN changes to our list already (including Milera). Throw in a trade or 2 and we could change our list by almost 25%. Finishing 18th, we need to go that hard !!

[ShanghaiSaint]

TDl no surprises, but i do feel for Dunny always quietly thought he might make it. Good luck fellas

[saintsRrising]

Just had a look at the 2012 Draft.

Once you ignore the Rookie elevations, in the main there has not been a lot of success with picks 46 on (and ignore the Rookie elevations). So while my first thought was it was a wasted pick in trading him for pick 46, when you look at it it was probably a fair enough punt in a draft that was clearly very shallow for talent.

3 46 Adelaide Riley Knight Adelaide 0
3 47 North Melbourne Ben Brown North Melbourne 8
3 48 GWS PASS
3 49 West Coast Dylan Main West Coast 0
3 50 Richmond Nathan Gordon Richmond 11
3 51 Carlton Nick Holman Carlton 1
3 52 Port Adelaide Darcy Byrne-Jones Port Adelaide 0
3 53 Sydney PASS
3 54 Geelong Joshua Walker Geelong 5
3 55 Essendon Orazio Fantasia Essendon 3
3 56 Hawthorn James Sicily Hawthorn 0
4 57 Melbourne Jayden Hunt Melbourne 0
4 58 Fremantle Brady Grey Fremantle 0
4 59 Hawthorn Jonathon Ceglar Hawthorn 13
4 60 Western Bulldogs Mitch Honeychurch Western Bulldogs 3
4 61 West Coast Jamie Bennell West Coast 19
4 62 Brisbane Jonathan Freeman Brisbane 4
4 63 Geelong George Burbury Geelong 5
4 64 Essendon Lauchlan Dalgleish Essendon 0
4 65 Collingwood Tom Langdon Collingwood 19
4 66 Richmond Sam Lloyd Richmond 8
4 67 Carlton PASS
4 68 Port Adelaide Karl Amon Port Adelaide 0
4 69 Sydney PASS
4 70 Fremantle Matthew Taberner Fremantle 7
4 71 Hawthorn William Langford Hawthorn 16
5 72 GWS PASS
5 73 GWS PASS
5 74 West Coast Jeremy McGovern West Coast 13
5 75 Brisbane Justin Clarke Brisbane 22
5 76 Adelaide Kyle Hartigan Adelaide 7
5 77 Collingwood Jonathon Marsh Collingwood 0
5 78 Richmond PASS
5 79 Carlton PASS
5 80 Sydney Brandon Jack Sydney 8
6 81 GWS PASS
6 82 Melbourne Mitchell Clisby Melbourne 0
6 83 St Kilda Thomas Curren St Kilda 16
6 84 Western Bulldogs Brett Goodes Western Bulldogs 2
6 85 West Coast Simon Tunbridge West Coast 4
6 86 Adelaide Rory Laird Adelaide 16
6 87 Collingwood Sam Dwyer Collingwood 13
6 88 Richmond PASS
6 89 Carlton Edward Curnow Carlton 15
6 90 Sydney Dane Rampe Sydney 22
7 91 GWS PASS
7 92 Collingwood Adam Oxley Collingwood 0
7 93 Richmond Ricky Petterd Richmond 16
7 94 Carlton Tom Bell Carlton 13
8 95 GWS Zachary Williams GWS 8
8 96 Collingwood PASS
9 97 GWS Jake Barrett GWS 0

[noob]

Just had a look at the 2012 Draft.

Once you ignore the Rookie elevations, in the main there has not been a lot of success with picks 46 on (and ignore the Rookie elevations). So while my first thought was it was a wasted pick in trading him for pick 46, when you look at it it was probably a fair enough punt in a draft that was clearly very shallow for talent.

3 46 Adelaide Riley Knight Adelaide 0
3 47 North Melbourne Ben Brown North Melbourne 8
3 48 GWS PASS
3 49 West Coast Dylan Main West Coast 0
3 50 Richmond Nathan Gordon Richmond 11
3 51 Carlton Nick Holman Carlton 1
3 52 Port Adelaide Darcy Byrne-Jones Port Adelaide 0
3 53 Sydney PASS
3 54 Geelong Joshua Walker Geelong 5
3 55 Essendon Orazio Fantasia Essendon 3
3 56 Hawthorn James Sicily Hawthorn 0
4 57 Melbourne Jayden Hunt Melbourne 0
4 58 Fremantle Brady Grey Fremantle 0
4 59 Hawthorn Jonathon Ceglar Hawthorn 13
4 60 Western Bulldogs Mitch Honeychurch Western Bulldogs 3
4 61 West Coast Jamie Bennell West Coast 19
4 62 Brisbane Jonathan Freeman Brisbane 4
4 63 Geelong George Burbury Geelong 5
4 64 Essendon Lauchlan Dalgleish Essendon 0
4 65 Collingwood Tom Langdon Collingwood 19
4 66 Richmond Sam Lloyd Richmond 8
4 67 Carlton PASS
4 68 Port Adelaide Karl Amon Port Adelaide 0
4 69 Sydney PASS
4 70 Fremantle Matthew Taberner Fremantle 7
4 71 Hawthorn William Langford Hawthorn 16
5 72 GWS PASS
5 73 GWS PASS
5 74 West Coast Jeremy McGovern West Coast 13
5 75 Brisbane Justin Clarke Brisbane 22
5 76 Adelaide Kyle Hartigan Adelaide 7
5 77 Collingwood Jonathon Marsh Collingwood 0
5 78 Richmond PASS
5 79 Carlton PASS
5 80 Sydney Brandon Jack Sydney 8
6 81 GWS PASS
6 82 Melbourne Mitchell Clisby Melbourne 0
6 83 St Kilda Thomas Curren St Kilda 16
6 84 Western Bulldogs Brett Goodes Western Bulldogs 2
6 85 West Coast Simon Tunbridge West Coast 4
6 86 Adelaide Rory Laird Adelaide 16
6 87 Collingwood Sam Dwyer Collingwood 13
6 88 Richmond PASS
6 89 Carlton Edward Curnow Carlton 15
6 90 Sydney Dane Rampe Sydney 22
7 91 GWS PASS
7 92 Collingwood Adam Oxley Collingwood 0
7 93 Richmond Ricky Petterd Richmond 16
7 94 Carlton Tom Bell Carlton 13
8 95 GWS Zachary Williams GWS 8
8 96 Collingwood PASS
9 97 GWS Jake Barrett GWS 0

Wasn't that last year's draft?

[bergholt]

Wasn't that last year's draft?

Right! Here's the real one:

https://www.draftguru.com.au/years/2012#national-draft

The highlights:

Dane Rampe (rookie) 44 games
Matt Jones 41 games
Dean Terlich 35 games
Sam Dwyer (rookie) 33 games
Dean Kent 27 games
Ricky Petterd (rookie) 27 games
Lachie Hunter (fs) 23 games
Kane Mitchell (rookie) 23 games
Jack Frost (rookie) 23 games

No-one else taken at or after 46 has played more than 20 games. Not a lot of stars there so I think saintsRrising's original point holds.

[Con Gorozidis]

Good luck guys.
Dont think anyone can knock their professionalism, reliability and resilience at Sandy.

[Enrico_Misso]

TDL had plenty of chances.

Thought Dunell didn't get enough opportunities in the seniors.
Should have given him another year.

[Enrico_Misso]

Does that mean they will still play for Sandy in the semi-final on Saturday?

It's almost a bit rude.
A a real test of their professionalism.

[Dis Believer]

The sandwich is gone, Dunny is gone, the virus is gone.

We're not gonna have many good nicknames left........

[dragit]

TDL was one I was pretty mad about from the moment I heard we had traded for him, mainly because of the type of player he is.
I actually feel really sorry for him now, on the verge of a flag a couple of years back to not able to get a game in the 18th side. The guy can obviously seriously play with sublime skills, but really not suited to a side struggling for forward 50 entries.

Dunell I never quite understood why we upgraded him so soon, again has good skills, but not really an AFL footballer.

I wonder if Essendon will have a look at him?

Good luck to both!

[gringo]

TDL was one I was pretty mad about from the moment I heard we had traded for him, mainly because of the type of player he is.
I actually feel really sorry for him now, on the verge of a flag a couple of years back to not able to get a game in the 18th side. The guy can obviously seriously play with sublime skills, but really not suited to a side struggling for forward 50 entries.

Dunell I never quite understood why we upgraded him so soon, again has good skills, but not really an AFL footballer.

I wonder if Essendon will have a look at him?

Good luck to both!

TDL is a dead eye kick but needs supply. I agree at a very good side like the Hawks he would have been a good player.

[Hurricane]

Im actually thrilled that the club has been so quick and agressive in the off season so far.

Sad for both players but TDL had his shot and didn't take it and Sammy D unfortunatly never made the grade at AFL level

Bring on the changes I say.

BANG BANG

[borderbarry]

How many more to come do you think?

[spert]

TDL was too light a frame and Dunnell should have got a lot more opportunities, but good luck to 'em

[Saints94]

Im actually thrilled that the club has been so quick and agressive in the off season so far.

Sad for both players but TDL had his shot and didn't take it and Sammy D unfortunatly never made the grade at AFL level

Bring on the changes I say.

BANG BANG

+1. few more to come you'd think..

[kosifantutti]

TDL was one I was pretty mad about from the moment I heard we had traded for him, mainly because of the type of player he is.
I actually feel really sorry for him now, on the verge of a flag a couple of years back to not able to get a game in the 18th side. The guy can obviously seriously play with sublime skills, but really not suited to a side struggling for forward 50 entries.

Dunell I never quite understood why we upgraded him so soon, again has good skills, but not really an AFL footballer.

I wonder if Essendon will have a look at him?

Good luck to both!

TDL is a dead eye kick but needs supply. I agree at a very good side like the Hawks he would have been a good player.

He may have been a dead eye dick at the Swans, but 9.11 at the Saints wasn't good enough for the type of role he was supposed to fill.

[dragit]

He may have been a dead eye dick at the Swans, but 9.11 at the Saints wasn't good enough for the type of role he was supposed to fill.

No it wasn't, but I'd say he was under massive pressure knowing his career was clearly on the line…

I'd say he is certainly a good kick for goal overall contrary to those numbers.

[Jacks Back]

Im actually thrilled that the club has been so quick and agressive in the off season so far.

Sad for both players but TDL had his shot and didn't take it and Sammy D unfortunatly never made the grade at AFL level

Bring on the changes I say.

BANG BANG

+1

By the way, why do you have a picture of plugger as your avatar?