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I need someone to explain the Freo result

Post: # 1490194Post plugger66 »

We were clearly the worst side before that game and are clearly the worst after that game. Surely Lenny telling everyone he was retiring didnt mean we win by 10 goals against a very good side. Still could be our most amazing victory in my 25 years of following the saints. Maybe beating Carlton in in around 1995 was similar. Anyone care to explain the Freo game?


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plugger66 wrote:We were clearly the worst side before that game and are clearly the worst after that game. Surely Lenny telling everyone he was retiring didnt mean we win by 10 goals against a very good side. Still could be our most amazing victory in my 25 years of following the saints. Maybe beating Carlton in in around 1995 was similar. Anyone care to explain the Freo game?
Take your pick.
1. They are our bunnies over here. Psychologically beaten before the siren sounds.
2. Ross loves Lenny (and Kosi, Milney, and Blakey.
3. The coach said 'okay, one win, but just one!'
4. Footy's a funny game.
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Post: # 1490200Post ace »

Easily explained

As part of Ross Lyon's departure from St Kilda a secret deal was done guaranteeing St Kilda wins against Freo in Melbourne for last year and this year.

After what was revealed in court this week you still aren't deluded that everything is above board are you.


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plugger66 wrote:We were clearly the worst side before that game and are clearly the worst after that game. Surely Lenny telling everyone he was retiring didnt mean we win by 10 goals against a very good side. Still could be our most amazing victory in my 25 years of following the saints. Maybe beating Carlton in in around 1995 was similar. Anyone care to explain the Freo game?
25 years???


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Jacks Back wrote:
plugger66 wrote:We were clearly the worst side before that game and are clearly the worst after that game. Surely Lenny telling everyone he was retiring didnt mean we win by 10 goals against a very good side. Still could be our most amazing victory in my 25 years of following the saints. Maybe beating Carlton in in around 1995 was similar. Anyone care to explain the Freo game?
25 years???

45 years. No idea why I typed 25. Old age maybe.


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Post: # 1490216Post Newman »

Good point … and enjoyed the fun answers - but agree was probably our best win (as a bottom side) since that win over Carlton.


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They took us too lightly and our moons aligned


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Post: # 1490218Post Stephen Theodore »

Complacency on Freos behalf

Can't be anything else.


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Post: # 1490219Post 8856brother »

Could the Freo game be proof we are tanking. Didn't David Mundy suggest we were their toughest opponent this year.


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Post: # 1490220Post HardSaint »

out of interest, what was the money on Saints beating Fro by 50 points or over leading into that game?


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HardSaint wrote:out of interest, what was the money on Saints beating Fro by 50 points or over leading into that game?

Im guessing nothing at all.


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Post: # 1490224Post noob »

The intensity/tackling/pressure that against Freo was what I expect St.Kilda to do everyweek. But today was non-existent. We have a lot of role bit players who are also very soft going to a contest.
It doesn't help that in today's era they are zones. Not many players know how to defend anymore.


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Post: # 1490226Post HardSaint »

plugger66 wrote:
HardSaint wrote:out of interest, what was the money on Saints beating Fro by 50 points or over leading into that game?

Im guessing nothing at all.
you're a betting guy, so what would I have got back if I'd put a lazy $10K or Saints winning by 50 points or more?
just out of interest - I have no idea and I've had nudgers and winkers ask me


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HardSaint wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
HardSaint wrote:out of interest, what was the money on Saints beating Fro by 50 points or over leading into that game?

Im guessing nothing at all.
you're a betting guy, so what would I have got back if I'd put a lazy $10K or Saints winning by 50 points or more?

Im guessing close to 500k but im also guessing there is no one who did that.


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Post: # 1490228Post whiskers3614 »

If somebody backed a result like that to win even 50 thousand it would have hit the news pretty quick and people would be calling for a Royal commission!


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whiskers3614 wrote:If somebody backed a result like that to win even 50 thousand it would have hit the news pretty quick and people would be calling for a Royal commission!

Exactly.


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saintsrus wrote:They took us too lightly and our moons aligned
This!!! Proof = Farren Ray kicked two awesome snap goals!! The number of times in the last couple of years that Ray has kicked goals he's needed to kick at important stages in games and missed proved to me (and this is just one example from the freo game, not picking on Farren, he's a GOP) that this truly was all our moons lining up :-)))


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Post: # 1490246Post remboy »

I think that game just shows that if one team turns up to play and has 22 contributors for four quarters and the opposition is a few percent off their game anything can happen.


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They rested a few players and just thought all they had to do was just turn up.

I really hope it costs them a top 4 spot!


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Post: # 1490260Post Mr Magic »

remboy wrote:I think that game just shows that if one team turns up to play and has 22 contributors for four quarters and the opposition is a few percent off their game anything can happen.
This.
Freo played with the intensity of a team that thought all it needed to do to win was turn up.


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Post: # 1490267Post HardSaint »

an brought the same approach last year too

Its been bandied about that we know Lyon's game plan inside out - cant accept that we just depart whatever we're going for and slip into Lyon mode instinctively, but footy's a funny game, teams are a strange thing


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plugger66 wrote:We were clearly the worst side before that game and are clearly the worst after that game. Surely Lenny telling everyone he was retiring didnt mean we win by 10 goals against a very good side. Still could be our most amazing victory in my 25 years of following the saints. Maybe beating Carlton in in around 1995 was similar. Anyone care to explain the Freo game?
Take your pick.
1. They are our bunnies over here. Psychologically beaten before the siren sounds.
2. Ross loves Lenny (and Kosi, Milney, and Blakey.
3. The coach said 'okay, one win, but just one!'
4. Footy's a funny game.
God I hope - and pray - that it was #3 and next year he says Bugger it - just win the bloody cup!


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Post: # 1490271Post Mr Magic »

HardSaint wrote:an brought the same approach last year too

Its been bandied about that we know Lyon's game plan inside out - cant accept that we just depart whatever we're going for and slip into Lyon mode instinctively, but footy's a funny game, teams are a strange thing
No, last year was totally different.
They rested 10/11 players from their team and had no ral expectations of winning.
They didn't care.
They were already concentrating/planning on the following week's final at Geelong.

This year they (the players) paid us absolutely no respect and were mentally 'switched off'

IMHO od course.


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Post: # 1490273Post Trev from the Bush »

HardSaint wrote:out of interest, what was the money on Saints beating Fro by 50 points or over leading into that game?

$71 dividend by that margin, I recall.


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I'm pretty certain smelling salts has something to do with it.


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