I don't love Riewoldt.

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Re: I don't love Riewoldt.

Post: # 1370722Post PJ »

I disagree roo has no rules unless you're in the inner sanctum you can't really say for sure....but jeez Dal even I was pulling the hair out watching that one.


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Post: # 1370724Post whiskers3614 »

PJ wrote:I disagree roo has no rules unless you're in the inner sanctum you can't really say for sure....but jeez Dal even I was pulling the hair out watching that one.
So who else would play in the physical state Riewoldt has been in during the last 2 games?
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Post: # 1370731Post SainterK »

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PJ wrote:If you're talking about the spray Dal got from Roo then it was absolutely deserved. I don't like cricket .. oh no .. I love it
Fair enough, but who gives ROO a spray when he deserves one?
No, one set of rules for him and another for the mere mortals.
Why play when your body does not allow you to perform to the required level?
Actually big Gardi did one day.

Against brissy.

Was roos first game back I think after torn hammy, carried on like anything when sent to the bench.

He gave the runner a mouthful and kept going at the bench.

Gardi told him to shoosh...and he did.


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Re: I don't love Riewoldt.

Post: # 1370733Post whiskers3614 »

Loved Gardiner, he was as much responsible for our improvement in 2009 and 2010 as anybody on the list or the coaches box.
If only his body had held together a little bit longer. And if he gave Roo a spray I'm sure it was well deserved.


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Re: I don't love Riewoldt.

Post: # 1370781Post ace »

Johnny Member wrote:Body language is awful.

Sprays young players for not giving it to him - which creates indecision in their minds.

Lets the team down with his poor goal kicking.

Let the club with his sooky response to the Collingwood fans booing him during the GF parade.

Let the club down with his response to the interviewer after the drawn GF.

May well have asked for too much money which caused salary cap issues.


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Lets the team down with his poor goal kicking = correct
May well have asked for too much money which caused salary cap issues = DID ask for too much money, one more quality import then he and 21 other saints would own premiership medals.


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Re: I don't love Riewoldt.

Post: # 1370799Post satchmo »

kosifantutti wrote:I love Roo but I'm looking forward to the day that he misses a shot and the goal umpire just stands there with his arms out saying "you were supposed to kick it straight over my head"
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2nd best Saint I've ever seen.....

The Mark in 2004 was the most inspirational act I've ever seen, saint or otherwise..... That and the gruelling effort he has made for 12 years... He is remarkeable

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BigMart wrote:2nd best Saint I've ever seen.....

The Mark in 2004 was the most inspirational act I've ever seen, saint or otherwise..... That and the gruelling effort he has made for 12 years... He is remarkeable

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ashame we don't have a lot more supporters like you. :(


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Post: # 1371160Post BigMart »

Thanks Fireman.... Sincere No Doubt

My mates P66, MM, Cairnsman and JB..... Would also agree!


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BigMart wrote:Thanks Fireman.... Sincere No Doubt

My mates P66, MM, Cairnsman and JB..... Would also agree!
Is that you their BM?


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Re: I don't love Riewoldt.

Post: # 1371166Post WinnersOnly »

He is a great player and one of the best ever SAINTS - but I have to say at times he carries on like a petulant spoilt child. Perhaps if he didn't miss goals from 25 out straight in front he would have be justified by the delivery - but until then he needs to keep his emotions intact !


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Post: # 1371177Post The Fireman »

BigMart wrote:Thanks Fireman.... Sincere No Doubt

My mates P66, MM, Cairnsman and JB..... Would also agree!
some of the comments on here about Roo have me scratching my head, it was refreshing to see your post...so yes, it was sincere.


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Post: # 1479378Post Johnny Member »

Interesting that nearly 12 months on, under a different coach, and we're having the same discussion.


A comment earlier is very poignant if you ask me:


"I agree - no problem with the captain giving a spray when warranted. HOWEVER last night I was really disappointed with Roo. I was at the game and watched him closely. The sprays didn't appear to be coming because of players not adhering to team rules, selfishness, or chastisement due to lack of effort. They were coming because he wasn't getting the ball delivered to him to his liking"


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Re: I don't love Riewoldt.

Post: # 1479379Post The Fireman »

I don't love some saint Supporters.


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Post: # 1479380Post plugger66 »

The Fireman wrote:I don't love some saint Supporters.

Agree.


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Re: I don't love Riewoldt.

Post: # 1479388Post saintspremiers »

Any other player who can kick 3 goals and work his arse off in a side that gets flogged can also give whoever they like a spray.


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Post: # 1479489Post sainters85 »

legend of the club and the game but we've really got to find a key forward this coming draft and probably give the captaincy to someone else like Geary, Armo or even Lenny if he plays on


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sainters85 wrote:legend of the club and the game but we've really got to find a key forward this coming draft and probably give the captaincy to someone else like Geary, Armo or even Lenny if he plays on

I can understand the first 2 even though I dont think it will happen but why would Lenny be captain over Rooy next season?


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Post: # 1479502Post Jacks Back »

We played our best quarter in the second when Roo was further up the ground and the players had to actually kick a goal themselves or pass to someone other than roo.


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Jacks Back wrote:We played our best quarter in the second when Roo was further up the ground and the players had to actually kick a goal themselves or pass to someone other than roo.

Dont think that is right at all. Rooy started on the wing and we got smashed in the first half of that quarter. He then went back into the forward line and we had a great second half to the quarter.


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plugger66 wrote:
Jacks Back wrote:We played our best quarter in the second when Roo was further up the ground and the players had to actually kick a goal themselves or pass to someone other than roo.

Dont think that is right at all. Rooy started on the wing and we got smashed in the first half of that quarter. He then went back into the forward line and we had a great second half to the quarter.

That is correct. Although I thought thstructure looked a whole lot better with Roo in the middle.


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Re: I don't love Riewoldt.

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plugger66 wrote:Dont think that is right at all. Rooy started on the wing and we got smashed in the first half of that quarter. He
then went back into the forward line and we had a great second half to the quarter.
This.

AFAIAC he can spray whoever he likes. He is our only effective key forward (although it was good to see Reese kick a couple for a change) It must be totally deflating to make multiple leads, finally get clear of two opponents only to have the pill kicked 5 meters over your head/to your left/to your right/into the arms of an opponent; usually from a guy in the clear who only has to execute a simple kick. That happened multiple times last week (and has all season); our ball delivery skills are horrible, and clearly not up to AFL standard.

I'd give them a spray too.


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Re: I don't love Riewoldt.

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plugger66 wrote:
sainters85 wrote:legend of the club and the game but we've really got to find a key forward this coming draft and probably give the captaincy to someone else like Geary, Armo or even Lenny if he plays on

I can understand the first 2 even though I dont think it will happen but why would Lenny be captain over Rooy next season?
I thought he said last season that he wanted to give the captaincy to someone else if they wanted, just throwing his name up since he's a senior player but probably wont be around next season tho


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Re: I don't love Riewoldt.

Post: # 1479537Post spert »

One of our best players of all time, and a great athlete, though couldn't get it together in the GFs when we needed those special games from him. I don't at all like his spraying of other players and a good captain or a champion just doesn't do that, if you want to blast your team-mate, do it away from others and not in public. As a coach, I would have told him pretty bluntly what I think about that.
Right now it almost seems pointless playing him as he is running himself into the ground in an embarrassingly bad team for no reward. AR should send Roo off for a week's holiday and try another forward line setup- definitely won't make the slightest difference and we most likely will kick more goals from the forward line as a whole.


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