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mr six o'clock wrote:If we win on the weekend we'll still be bottom...... .
Not necessarily.
Agree. Id say there is more hope that if we win we wont be bottom. Its only 2 and half percent and that is easily made up when your percentage is poor. Obviously if Brisbane win then thats out the door.
Take the pain up front.
Minimise the time till we are competitive.
It's a good strategy.
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
WinnersOnly wrote:Its disgraceful surely they cant think this is the route to rebuilding our future?
Both a concern with the rebuilding of the team, let's be honest, will take several years, but the club finances will be under massive stress with declining memberships and lack of potential "A-Grade" sponsors.
WinnersOnly wrote:Its disgraceful surely they cant think this is the route to rebuilding our future?
Both a concern with the rebuilding of the team, let's be honest, will take several years, but the club finances will be under massive stress with declining memberships and lack of potential "A-Grade" sponsors.
I don't like where this is headed...
AFL requires 18 teams. Maybe a few more games in NZ. A new Etihad deal, equalisation compensation, etc.
I thought things looked worse in 2000. We had won fewer games as well - two wins and a draw. We also had more experience in the team with Harvey, Burke, Leowe and Everitt. But we still managed to pull ourselves out of it over the next couple of years after it.
Can't see how we can't manage to get out of the doldrums again. Of course it'll take a couple of years, but we'll be stronger for it.
Never give up, Fellow Sainters!
Curb your enthusiasm - you’re a St.Kilda supporter!!
Sainternist wrote:I thought things looked worse in 2000. We had won fewer games as well - two wins and a draw. We also had more experience in the team with Harvey, Burke, Leowe and Everitt. But we still managed to pull ourselves out of it over the next couple of years after it.
Can't see how we can't manage to get out of the doldrums again. Of course it'll take a couple of years, but we'll be stronger for it.
Never give up, Fellow Sainters!
Agree but it's harder now with 2 extra teams and no PP.
If we make the finals by 2018 that would be a brilliant achievement.
i am Melbourne Skies - sometimes Blue Skies, Grey Skies, even Partly Cloudy Skies.
Most of you guys just ain't been supporters long enough.
We'd all turn up at Moorabin , just to see a glimpse of the future , hoping for that flukey win, cheering the boys on , watching the first games of Barks, Plugger, Loewe etc. With cold pies and warmish beer in hands, standing shoulder to shoulder in the animal enclosure, giving it our best.
I'd always go early and see the reserves ( or occasionally under 19s ) play pre match.
Remember calling into the pub on the way home after the usual flogging and telling my mates that I saw these guys and , how they would become champions of the game.
Geez, they even nick named me " Spooner" at work because we won so many wooden spoons
FFS toughen up bunker down and get behind the club whenever you can, I used to drive to watch the Saints from near Geelong every Saturday, rain , hail or shine knowing a 10 goal flogging was on the cards.
Everones just been spoilt, since he game became Corporized and sanitized. Your all becoming soft , I get more of a kick out of seeing, something in a young player , knowing we do have a future , it's not the end of the world you know , just the beginning of our next upward spiral , to chase that elusive golden chalice
And if you think the ride home is a long wat after loosing , try getting on a plane back to Tassy and then a two hour drive to the East Coast, must admit though I'm doing it much less frequently now.
I've said it before , if you think we are bad I remember the cheers when we kicked a goal being akin to wing a flag
Toughen up you wimps !!
And the president said " I did not have sex with that woman"
And our former president said " Football is like golf"
supersaints wrote:Most of you guys just ain't been supporters long enough.
We'd all turn up at Moorabin , just to see a glimpse of the future , hoping for that flukey win, cheering the boys on , watching the first games of Barks, Plugger, Loewe etc. With cold pies and warmish beer in hands, standing shoulder to shoulder in the animal enclosure, giving it our best.
I'd always go early and see the reserves ( or occasionally under 19s ) play pre match.
Remember calling into the pub on the way home after the usual flogging and telling my mates that I saw these guys and , how they would become champions of the game.
Geez, they even nick named me " Spooner" at work because we won so many wooden spoons
FFS toughen up bunker down and get behind the club whenever you can, I used to drive to watch the Saints from near Geelong every Saturday, rain , hail or shine knowing a 10 goal flogging was on the cards.
Everones just been spoilt, since he game became Corporized and sanitized. Your all becoming soft , I get more of a kick out of seeing, something in a young player , knowing we do have a future , it's not the end of the world you know , just the beginning of our next upward spiral , to chase that elusive golden chalice
And if you think the ride home is a long wat after loosing , try getting on a plane back to Tassy and then a two hour drive to the East Coast, must admit though I'm doing it much less frequently now.
I've said it before , if you think we are bad I remember the cheers when we kicked a goal being akin to wing a flag
Toughen up you wimps !!
Well said. If you run into BM in Tassie send him our love
i am Melbourne Skies - sometimes Blue Skies, Grey Skies, even Partly Cloudy Skies.
Not often I agree with Mick Malthouse but 2 very valid points he makes today in the age. Firstly he bemoans the quality of players at his disposal . much like the current Saints list , its not effort or lack of practice that is bringing them unstuck - its having too many players in your team who turn the ball over withoor skills or poor decision making.
Secondly , Free Agency favours those stronger clubs at the top. Any further loosening of restrictions will only make it harder for teams at the bottom of the ladder to rise to the top and get full value from their draft picks. Let's use Seb Ross as an example - currently in his 3rd year and seems to be making progress. Continues to improve in 2015 and in 2016 starts to get recognition as one of the leading midfielders in the comp - drawing the attention of stronger clubs who know he could become a few agent at the end of 2017 (under proposed new FA rules). Has a blinder in 2017 as the Saints finish just outside the top 8 for the first time since 2012 and puts himself into AA calculations. What a blow it would be to lose him in 2018 just as we look like pushing into the 8 if he takes up the big money available as a FA after serving 6 years.
“If you want the rainbow you gotta put up with rain” Dolly Parton
Zed wrote:Not often I agree with Mick Malthouse but 2 very valid points he makes today in the age. Firstly he bemoans the quality of players at his disposal . much like the current Saints list , its not effort or lack of practice that is bringing them unstuck - its having too many players in your team who turn the ball over withoor skills or poor decision making.
Secondly , Free Agency favours those stronger clubs at the top. Any further loosening of restrictions will only make it harder for teams at the bottom of the ladder to rise to the top and get full value from their draft picks. Let's use Seb Ross as an example - currently in his 3rd year and seems to be making progress. Continues to improve in 2015 and in 2016 starts to get recognition as one of the leading midfielders in the comp - drawing the attention of stronger clubs who know he could become a few agent at the end of 2017 (under proposed new FA rules). Has a blinder in 2017 as the Saints finish just outside the top 8 for the first time since 2012 and puts himself into AA calculations. What a blow it would be to lose him in 2018 just as we look like pushing into the 8 if he takes up the big money available as a FA after serving 6 years.
Seriously I hope the proposed new FA
Can you explain after 2 years of FA how it has favoured the stronger clubs. I just cant see it at the moment. Dont we have more money in the SC than most of the stronger clubs. I dont see how the new riules would help stronger clubs either but I hope they keep to the old rules just so lees players change clubs. Having said that bugger all are leaving anyway.
Free Agency at 6 years will create a two-speed competition.
- the successful clubs who will benefit from picking up FAs at the peak of their careers, often luring them not so much for $ but the chance of a premiership
- and the unsuccessful clubs who will take good young draft picks and develop them only for them to whisked away as they peak, and condemned to repeat the cycle.
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
BadRossco wrote:Losing streaks are the only records this team is likely to break. I have followed the Saints for almost 50 years and although I have seen some very ordinary teams, the current collection of players are by far the worst for skills, pace and decision making..
Totally agree! Pelchen has a good eye for anti-talent.
What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger.