Positives from the Tigers game.

[The Fireman]

Umpires disappointing again and I know the old chestnut that poor sides blame umpiring but the umpiring was lopsided to put it nicely.

Slowly but surely we are presented with some hope...Stanly holding marks and I stated last game that we now have real prospect ruckman in Longer. Minchington shows a bit.

Billings a Quiet one and Stevens can do better.

Another 2 seasons in the doldrums but I can see some light.

[White Winmar]

Savage and Stanley. Both are important to our future. Savage is one of the few players we have who can break the lines with pace and run and Stanley looked likely today. He can, at least, take a contested mark, and apart from Roo, we don't have anyone else who can.

[8856brother]

Savege for me. Really looked up and about. Just needs to get rid of a few weak defensive efforts. Longer was great today. Improving every week. Stanley did what he should be doing weekly. Lets see him next week. Love Webster. He has some real grunt. Minchington holds his spot. Full game next week.

[BringBackMadDog]

Shenton, Minchinton, savage, websters courage, Ross was good

[SemperFidelis]

Just back. Shaking my head again about the umpiring, but that was hardly the difference.

Savage is a beautiful kick; he should hold a clinic for some of our veterans. I really like him off half back.

In addition to some of the others named in other posts above, I add in Dunstan again as another big positive. Again, showed poise and some beautiful kicking today.

And very happy to see Rhys have some success in his 50th.

[Dr Spaceman]

Still here. Having a coffee. Happy bout most things but particularly Stanley, Savage, Minch & Weller

[3rd generation saint]

Again, Stanley showed what may be possible, was our best tall forward today and if some of those midfield players would honour some of his leads like they should have today, that would go a long way to taking the heat off Roo.
I have this really bad feeling that if Stanley had been picked up by Geelong or Hawthorn, he would be the player we think he can be, because those clubs were actually developing their draft picks while we were playing hacks instead.
As for other positives, Savage, Minchington, Shenton, Delaney and if you take away the first quarter and the last 5 minutes, we broke even.

[Bluthy]

Improved efforts and consistency from Savage, Weller, Minchington, Stanley, Shenton, Longer, Newnes albeit against a pretty average team. They need to keep showing that level of base line effort week after week.

[noddy04]

Just on the umps.....we had a bad run v Port with number 25.....we had number 25 again today.....just sayin

[saint6709]

Improved efforts and consistency from Savage, Weller, Minchington, Stanley, Shenton, Longer, Newnes albeit against a pretty average team. They need to keep showing that level of base line effort week after week.

Agree - accept for newness - who barely touched it

[SainterK]

Gears has been helping out Sav

[PJ]

Savage has really picked his game up fantastic pick up.

Billy was very good in the ruck and getting better week by week. Will be hard for Tom to get his spot back.

Special mention to the Minch - thought he was gone in the early part of the season but on todays game he'll get a real shot at an upgrade.

[stinger]

for mine , happy with joey, gwilt, savage ross, rhys, shenton, webster and to a lesser extent newnes....and off course billy longer...great game fom him...


umpiring was crap.....i reckon that roo could get mugged and shot before those maggots would give him a free....have no idea what vickery got one of his frees and goals for...he was just out muscled by gwildt who didn't even lay a and on him....

[Saint wagga]

Where was this Shane savage at seasons beginning!?! I'd dare say that the last 2 games are 'better' than anyone could have hoped for when he was traded in!! Longer, best afl game, nearly at 20 games, looking more rounded at afl level, great signs!! Minchington for mine looks our most natural attacking small forward, looked classy, 2 goals, enough said, holds his spot and deserves a full game against the blues. Stanley - our best 2nd forward option ATM and responded well to dropping and re selection, holds his spot. Seb Ross, starting to see some consistency at afl level, 20 touches, plenty of work in the clinches and beginning to look more offensive, stays in.

[St Ick]

Savage has really picked his game up fantastic pick up.

Billy was very good in the ruck and getting better week by week. Will be hard for Tom to get his spot back.

Special mention to the Minch - thought he was gone in the early part of the season but on todays game he'll get a real shot at an upgrade.

Agree. Bit of humble pie being dished up to some on here, not that he has 'made it' but he is showing a bit.

As for Minchi, I'll stand by my comment that he is a much better player on the big stage.

[SemperFidelis]

Gears has been helping out Sav

This makes some sense to me now. He seems much harder at the contest.

Whatever he's doing, he needs to keep doing it!

[The Redeemer]

Umpires disappointing again and I know the old chestnut that poor sides blame umpiring but the umpiring was lopsided to put it nicely.

Slowly but surely we are presented with some hope...Stanly holding marks and I stated last game that we now have real prospect ruckman in Longer. Minchington shows a bit.

Billings a Quiet one and Stevens can do better.

Another 2 seasons in the doldrums but I can see some light.

Damn straight. If Minchington comes on then we get Weller, Eli, Shenton and Michington all from the rookie list.

This works a few ways.

It allows us to take the minimum of 3 high draft picks come draft time but also it allows us to clean-out potential players at the end of the year full-knowing who and what we are replacing them for.

[The Fireman]

oops I forgot weller....like this kid

[Bernard Shakey]

Umpires disappointing again and I know the old chestnut that poor sides blame umpiring but the umpiring was lopsided to put it nicely.

Last week, yes, but you are one eyed if you think the umpires had any impact on today's game!

[maverick]

Shane Savage was always going to be good honest serviceable outside player.
Of course he will take time going from chocolates to boiled lollies

[The Fireman]

Umpires disappointing again and I know the old chestnut that poor sides blame umpiring but the umpiring was lopsided to put it nicely.

Last week, yes, but you are one eyed if you think the umpires had any impact on today's game!

not advocating it had a huge impact but when you consider the soft frees they got in front of goal and that we couldn't buy one at the other end does make a difference.

You don't agree?

[philtee]

Didn't run up the white flag until last five minutes. 2nd and 3rd quarters were pretty good, showing plenty
of chase and aggression..we actually won the 3rd quarter. Lack of forward options is a killer. Slow start
didn't help.

[spert]

Happy with Savage , Longer, Minchington, Delaney, Shenton, Milera and Webster(though he should be on ball or forward of centre)..all will improve. Stanley did a few good things, but just needs to be consistent and do it more often. Negatives to me are from a coaching perspective- team again not switched on at first bounce, game lost again in first quarter. Terrible midfield structure with no defensive strategies obvious, allowing opposition mids clear path through centre area at ball ups, and general clearance work is appalling.

[plugger66]

Happy with Savage , Longer, Minchington, Delaney, Shenton, Milera and Webster(though he should be on ball or forward of centre)..all will improve. Stanley did a few good things, but just needs to be consistent and do it more often. Negatives to me are from a coaching perspective- team again not switched on at first bounce, game lost again in first quarter. Terrible midfield structure with no defensive strategies obvious, allowing opposition mids clear path through centre area at ball ups, and general clearance work is appalling.

I will say it again. I have watched AFL for a long time but I still dont see how a supporter knows its a terrible midfield structure. Maybe the players just arent good enough at the moment. Can you tell me how they structure up now at stoppages and how they should? And how does all our coaches get jobs if you can see the structure is all wrong?

Spert you are going to be complaining for at tleast another year and half because of 2 things. We will probably get worse before we get better and AR will still be coach until the end of next season.

[Fluttz]

Happy with Savage , Longer, Minchington, Delaney, Shenton, Milera and Webster(though he should be on ball or forward of centre)..all will improve. Stanley did a few good things, but just needs to be consistent and do it more often. Negatives to me are from a coaching perspective- team again not switched on at first bounce, game lost again in first quarter. Terrible midfield structure with no defensive strategies obvious, allowing opposition mids clear path through centre area at ball ups, and general clearance work is appalling.

I will say it again. I have watched AFL for a long time but I still dont see how a supporter knows its a terrible midfield structure. Maybe the players just arent good enough at the moment. Can you tell me how they structure up now at stoppages and how they should? And how does all our coaches get jobs if you can see the structure is all wrong?

Spert you are going to be complaining for at tleast another year and half because of 2 things. We will probably get worse before we get better and AR will still be coach until the end of next season.

Certainly nothing to do with structure. As Richo said in his post match press conference, too many blokes were getting sucked into the contest to try and win the footy. Just looks horrible when we don't win the ball and there are 3 or 4 opposition players on the outside putting the afterburners on. Fixing little things like that with more communication and awareness with the players on field will go along way to ensuring we are in games for longer.