Match Thread - cats v saints

[mr six o'clock]

Top 4 side playing against the bottom side down at geelong , where we never play well .

Carn't understand why everyone's whining !
Said to a friend who's a cats fan this morning , if we get within 10 goals i would be amazed .

[SemperFidelis]

Mav Weller probably our best player.

Mav definitely a highlight in an otherwise awful day so far.

Hope Jack changes the boots at half time. Losing the ball like that - twice - is soul destroying for everyone. And Hope Saunders ok; 2 pretty hard knocks already.

Defenders look ok when ball is pinging in like a volleyball, but not accountable for their men when there is actually time to set up.

C'mon Saints! We can lift. We have to.

[sunsaint]

I know this was commented on during the week by SainterK but I am wondering just how much confusion the players are coping with
With less than 1 minute to go, you get that centering Bruce kick to Roo intercept mark - it was a brave kick simply Stokes was quicker than roo - ok I can accept that
But at the following center bounce Clint Jones is on the wing trying to cover two geelong players - then he picks Motlop up - throughout the year I have seen him trying to cover several players at the same time
Either the message is confused or some players are just not pulling their weight - (hey Joey)

[SemperFidelis]

That was a crap decision to give that fag the free kick. A point is all it deserved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

not sure who you are refering to, amybe Hawkins but does not matter. totally unacceptable comment. Mods?

A fag is a smoke isn't it?

Oh please ! People are frustrated, let's call the mods.

I don't care how frustrated you are, you want to start questioning someones sexuality with that term, then in any place that is unacceptable

Get of your high horse.. The word fag, gay etc is used quite commonly around the world now and it is hardly used in regards to someone's sexuality..

Just stop using it. Stop. Full stop.

[ShanghaiSaint]

agree mag
it's all the coaches fault the whole thing yep sack him, players doing exaclty what he told them to do before the bounce.

[MC Gusto]

Can someone provide the details of the lee trade?
It was pick 12 for lee and a couple of picks back that netted us wright? And ?
And if that is the case who was taken with pick 12
Also did we trade our pick 13 (Goddard comp) for hickey and some picks back in the same draft??

So I'm interested who went pick 12 & 13 in that draft and the details on the above deals please.

Sorry I know this has been done to death

[BigMart]

Everyone's whining because we are in an elite comp paying players 95% of what Geelong are

And are playing 10% as good

Giving an excuse of accepting be hopeless... Leads to Uncompetitiveness

[plugger66]

Can someone provide the details of the lee trade?
It was pick 12 for lee and a couple of picks back that netted us wright? And ?
And if that is the case who was taken with pick 12
Also did we trade our pick 13 (Goddard comp) for hickey and some picks back in the same draft??

So I'm interested who went pick 12 & 13 in that draft and the details on the above deals please.

Sorry I know this has been done to death

I never get why it matters who went in picks clubs trade because we may have picked 2 completely different players.

[Bunk_Moreland]

Everyone's whining because we are in an elite comp paying players 95% of what Geelong are

And are playing 10% as good

Giving an excuse of accepting be hopeless... Leads to Uncompetitiveness

This hasn't changed in a decade

[WinnersOnly]

How do we find our self belief and energy again?

Can cope with losses but not when the team is not interested - something not right at the moment?

[3rd generation saint]

Once again we have a non-existent forward line. Everytime we go forward we are outnumbered 2 to 1, every friggin' time.
I'm sick of this stupid game plan, how about telling our forwards to stay forward so we actually have someone to kick it to when we get the ball.
This us looking like Hawthorn all over again.
I would rather we play man on man and forget about zones and other tactics, keep it friggin' simple.

So you want to get beaten by 140 points every week?

That will happen this week the way things are going.
The way things are going I don't if I'm going to a win before 2016.

So you want to be beaten by 200 points a match?

Have we come close to winning playing this style in the last 7 weeks?
Hell, teams are now resting players to play against us with no fear of any consequences, our play is predictable, one dimensional and so easy to defend, not hard to get a kick when you are 2 or more on 1, because that's what happens if we even get the ball past the centre.
By the time we master Port's style of play, it will be out dated.
We need some massive recruiting coups come October to even be competitive next year.

How were we going in the first four week with a backline and young players like Wright, Templeton, and Geary playing this gameplan?

Let's see we won some, but if we played those teams now, Melbourne would beat us by at least 8 goals, and we would be lucky to kick 8 goals against them, GWS would beat us by about the same margin, as for the Bummers, well ASADA might give us the slight edge there now.
The problem all those teams we beat, have improved significantly, we haven't, we have gone backwards a long way. We are rock bottom and there is a fair margin between us and the next worse side in the league right now.
Just glad I didn't spend the money to go down there this afternoon. We have a long way to go, and it is going to take 3-4 years to get anywhere near where we need to go.

[dragit]

Can someone provide the details of the lee trade?
It was pick 12 for lee and a couple of picks back that netted us wright? And ?
And if that is the case who was taken with pick 12
Also did we trade our pick 13 (Goddard comp) for hickey and some picks back in the same draft??

So I'm interested who went pick 12 & 13 in that draft and the details on the above deals please.

Sorry I know this has been done to death

Use the google machine ya lazy bugger… it's not hard to dig out.

[WinnersOnly]

How do we find our self belief and energy again?

Can cope with losses but not when the team is not interested - something not right at the moment?

[terry smith rules]

That was a crap decision to give that fag the free kick. A point is all it deserved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

not sure who you are refering to, amybe Hawkins but does not matter. totally unacceptable comment. Mods?

A fag is a smoke isn't it?

Oh please ! People are frustrated, let's call the mods.

I don't care how frustrated you are, you want to start questioning someones sexuality with that term, then in any place that is unacceptable

Get of your high horse.. The word fag, gay etc is used quite commonly around the world now and it is hardly used in regards to someone's sexuality..

You have no idea, suggest after the game you google the difference between those terms and hows they are used. If been on my "high horse" means that I will call out objectionable comments then bad luck, because I will keep doing it

[plugger66]

Everyone's whining because we are in an elite comp paying players 95% of what Geelong are

And are playing 10% as good

Giving an excuse of accepting be hopeless... Leads to Uncompetitiveness

So based on that no side should ever lose by more than about 10%

[MC Gusto]

Jasck and lonergan

They any good?

[sunsaint]

Top 4 side playing against the bottom side down at geelong , where we never play well .

Carn't understand why everyone's whining !
Said to a friend who's a cats fan this morning , if we get within 10 goals i would be amazed .

whining? what angers me most these two teams started their rise up the ladder at the same time - they have won three GF's & are still competitive
(queue the endless reasons/excuses why they did & we didnt)

[clarky449]

That was a crap decision to give that fag the free kick. A point is all it deserved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

not sure who you are refering to, amybe Hawkins but does not matter. totally unacceptable comment. Mods?

A fag is a smoke isn't it?

Oh please ! People are frustrated, let's call the mods.

I don't care how frustrated you are, you want to start questioning someones sexuality with that term, then in any place that is unacceptable

Get of your high horse.. The word fag, gay etc is used quite commonly around the world now and it is hardly used in regards to someone's sexuality..

You have no idea, suggest after the game you google the difference between those terms and hows they are used. If been on my "high horse" means that I will call out objectionable comments then bad luck, because I will keep doing it

You just don't understand.. Its okay.. Ill forgive you..

[1966]

Coach is going nowhere.
He is asking players to take the game on but due to size and skill many are not capable.
Either they learn and improve or show them the door.

[falka]

Oh look a mark 5 m in front of opponent and another mark in 50. How bad is this

Fascinating

Still fascinating me

[Bunk_Moreland]

Coach is going nowhere.
He is asking players to take the game on but due to size and skill many are not capable.
Either they learn and improve or show them the door.

this. churn through the players. May take another 3 -4 years, but there is no other way

[Bunk_Moreland]

Oh look a mark 5 m in front of opponent and another mark in 50. How bad is this

Fascinating

Still fascinating me

Remarkable. So you want them to play man on man and disregard the coaches instructions to zone in defence?

the defensive structures are OK, it is the players ability to do it that is the problem

[jonesy]

The club needs some heat put on it this week. Alright to be rebuilding,but the side that runs out needs to play to an AFL standard and have pride. Most of this group is not playing with any pride at the moment apart from Hayes as usual, you won't see him dropping his head

[falka]

Oh look a mark 5 m in front of opponent and another mark in 50. How bad is this

Fascinating

Still fascinating me

Remarkable. So you want them to play man on man and disregard the coaches instructions to zone in defence?

the defensive structures are OK, it is the players ability to do it that is the problem

Mate I'm not stupid I know you zone but there comes a time where your opponent leads and you stay on his arse when it's 30m from goal.

I just wanna see some passion for the jumper and interest in being out there.

So based on that we are following coaches instructions perfectly? Is that one we are getting right?

This is passionless crap

[SaintSimmo]

How is it that with all our players in our defensive half and yet geelong seem to take uncontested marks every time they go forward?!!