You're welcome. And for once, the MRP saw it my way.st.byron wrote:perfectionist wrote:The first decision of the MRP is to decide the type of charge. It could be striking, charging or rough conduct. Strangely, a striking charge is viewed by the current MRP rules as being only ⅔ as bad as the other two. Once, the Sidebottom action could have been any one of the three, but these days, it is most likely to be Rough Conduct, which therefore draws a higher penalty.
The next decision of the MRP is to categorise the "conduct" of the act, a word that really doesn't describe what they mean. They are really talking about player intentions. It ranges from a bit of an accident which should have been avoided through to an outright deliberate act. There are three categories : Negligent, Reckless, Intentional. Clearly, the middle category is by far the most broad. It is hard to see the Sidebottom action as being Intentional, but the fact that he left the ground also suggests that he just wasn't running past the player and going for the ball (as suggested by our coach). So, it should be Reckless.
The next decision of the MRP relates to the severity of the impact. There are, as mentioned in another post, four levels here: Severe, high, medium and low. The question is whether it will be deemed high or medium. The fact that the victim left the ground with concussion and was unable to partake in the remainder of the game would suggest a High impact verdict.
And finally, there is the area of contact, with two categories: body or high/groin. This is the easy one with High contact.
So, an act which is reckless, of high severity and high contact will draw 7 activation points and a level 4 offence. With a rough conduct charge, these leads to 425 demerit points.
Steele Sidebottom's history will determine his sanction in the matter. If he has a good history (no guilty conviction in the last six years) and pleads guilty, then it would be reduced to 239 points and two matches. Apparently, because he has only played for five years plus this season (i.e. less than six), he does not qualify for a good record despite never having been found guilty. This has never seemed fair to me and may well play on the minds of the MRP in accessing the "conduct" of the charge, although it shouldn't. So the best he could do on my scenario, would be to plead down to 319 points and 3 weeks.
Thanks for that Perfectionist. Lays out the process clearly.
Sidebottom how many weeks?
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I think we can easily guess what SP's real issues with Adam Goodes are, though he's probably learnt by now to keep them to himself.plugger66 wrote:saintspremiers wrote:That's why I can't stand Goodes. Another lovechild. Shame all the racist stuff is clouding the real issues with him.Viking3 wrote:I hope you're being facetious?dragit wrote:Goodes cleared, Wow, didn't see that coming.
As soon as it happened I said to my son that they would find a way to clear him.
Another disgraceful decision based on who you are and not what you did.
Perhaps Australian of the Year benefits include MRP immunity??
You cant stand Goodes because the MRP dont suspend him. I just cant even slightly understand that. What are the real issues with him by the way?
What he claims are 'the real issues' would be interesting to note, I'm confident that they wouldn't be as big a problem were it not for the real issue.
If you catch my drift.
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Goodes is a sniper...often hits players and for other players it would mean a suspension.Austinnn wrote:I think we can easily guess what SP's real issues with Adam Goodes are, though he's probably learnt by now to keep them to himself.plugger66 wrote:saintspremiers wrote:That's why I can't stand Goodes. Another lovechild. Shame all the racist stuff is clouding the real issues with him.Viking3 wrote:I hope you're being facetious?dragit wrote:Goodes cleared, Wow, didn't see that coming.
As soon as it happened I said to my son that they would find a way to clear him.
Another disgraceful decision based on who you are and not what you did.
Perhaps Australian of the Year benefits include MRP immunity??
You cant stand Goodes because the MRP dont suspend him. I just cant even slightly understand that. What are the real issues with him by the way?
What he claims are 'the real issues' would be interesting to note, I'm confident that they wouldn't be as big a problem were it not for the real issue.
If you catch my drift.
And that is all.
And you can go get stuffed if you think it's something else, cause it aint.
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Re: Sidebottom how many weeks?
can you take us through some of those hits... youtube, afl site, articles... any actual proofsaintspremiers wrote:Austinnn wrote:I think we can easily guess what SP's real issues with Adam Goodes are, though he's probably learnt by now to keep them to himself.plugger66 wrote:saintspremiers wrote:That's why I can't stand Goodes. Another lovechild. Shame all the racist stuff is clouding the real issues with him.Viking3 wrote:I hope you're being facetious?dragit wrote:Goodes cleared, Wow, didn't see that coming.
As soon as it happened I said to my son that they would find a way to clear him.
Another disgraceful decision based on who you are and not what you did.
Perhaps Australian of the Year benefits include MRP immunity??
You cant stand Goodes because the MRP dont suspend him. I just cant even slightly understand that. What are the real issues with him by the way?
What he claims are 'the real issues' would be interesting to note, I'm confident that they wouldn't be as big a problem were it not for the real issue.
If you catch my drift.
Goodes is a sniper...often hits players and for other players it would mean a suspension.
And that is all.
And you can go get stuffed if you think it's something else, cause it aint.
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Goodes, Judd & Hodge are all champions and great to watch, but all have been extremely fortunate a number of times at the MRP... Some in their brownlow years.
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dragit wrote:Goodes, Judd & Hodge are all champions and great to watch, but all have been extremely fortunate a number of times at the MRP... Some in their brownlow years.
This is 100% spot on, and most supporters from ALL clubs who watch footy know this. Goodes has sniped, AND gone in with the knees previously. How he had no case to answer against Selwood was laughable if was not sooooooooooooooooo predictable.
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I'm not a fan of goodes or gouger Judd or hodge - all ex champions who have become 'dirty' in their latter years - but I actually think goodes tried to pull up when saw selwoods head. I honestly do.
Still doesn't make him any more palatable to me but in this case the mrp were correct imo
Still doesn't make him any more palatable to me but in this case the mrp were correct imo
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Why did he have his elbow high then??stevie wrote:I'm not a fan of goodes or gouger Judd or hodge - all ex champions who have become 'dirty' in their latter years - but I actually think goodes tried to pull up when saw selwoods head. I honestly do.
Still doesn't make him any more palatable to me but in this case the mrp were correct imo
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So 3 for sidebottom (down from 4 for early plea)
high contact
high impact
reckless
high contact
high impact
reckless
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Have to agree with the result, I thought 4 when I saw it. Reduced to 3 is fair enough in this system.
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Back to the olden days for Frontbottom
Curb your enthusiasm - you’re a St.Kilda supporter!!
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Bad hat!Sainternist wrote:Back to the olden days for Frontbottom
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You'll never host Play School!satchmo wrote:Bad hat!Sainternist wrote:Back to the olden days for Frontbottom
Curb your enthusiasm - you’re a St.Kilda supporter!!
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They are a bit like possums.dragit wrote:Goodes, Judd & Hodge are all champions and great to watch, but all have been extremely fortunate a number of times at the MRP... Some in their brownlow years.
You want them eradicated but some stupid law gives them protection.
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