At the game last night I noticed he was coming off the bench exhausted and when you see the amount of ground he covers it is understandable. It did look like Thomas was tagging him and at some stages in the 2nd half looked like he was trying to go to Menzel but had to 'fight' his way thru Thomas. Not much assistance from the other backmen in giving him a chop out probably due to their inexperience. I would say he is trying to cover holes as well as look after his player but the ball has been coming into the back half so easily especially the last two weeks due to little pressure from further up the field that I would hate to be one of our backmen.st_Trav_ofWA wrote:with Dempster i do think the cattle around him is effecting his game , as you rightly point out he is perhaps spreading himself too thin as he is needed kinda everywhere and i think thats where Gwilt being so much out of form is really hurting us
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lol long memory jiggsthejiggingsaint wrote:WHAT? no line through Raph Clarke?
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Can't believe anyone thought Jones played well.
Double grabbed just about everything and ran around in circles all night.
His one handed effort on the wing that resulted in a turnover goal was pathetic
Double grabbed just about everything and ran around in circles all night.
His one handed effort on the wing that resulted in a turnover goal was pathetic
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So the Blues spent a fortune to provide a tag for a Saints player whose form this year has been up and down???SainterK wrote:Sean was tagged last night, you could tell in the manner Daisy played IMO.
The guy just had a very poor game. Daisy has been having a shocking year, and so having a poor game against Daisy at present is hardy a sign of a good game.
A tag does not explain all the dropped marks and fumbles. Nor the time he played on backwards, only to then come back and kick it out on the full.
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I am a CJ fan....but after a good season start he has now had a series of poor games.
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We cannot afford to have so many atrocious kicks in the side... Jones, Ray, Steven. No wonder we are losing so many games by big margins.
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Agree an $800k tagger…wowsaintsRrising wrote:So the Blues spent a fortune to provide a tag for a Saints player whose form this year has been up and down???SainterK wrote:Sean was tagged last night, you could tell in the manner Daisy played IMO.
The guy just had a very poor game. Daisy has been having a shocking year, and so having a poor game against Daisy at present is hardy a sign of a good game.
A tag does not explain all the dropped marks and fumbles. Nor the time he played on backwards, only to then come back and kick it out on the full.
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CJ was a sheep dog last night
Did nothing offensively or defensively.
Did spend lots of time running in circles and rounding em up though.
He is very fit - must cover 20km a game I reckon. Mostly circular.
Did nothing offensively or defensively.
Did spend lots of time running in circles and rounding em up though.
He is very fit - must cover 20km a game I reckon. Mostly circular.
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Not sure we watch the same games
Dempster - is captaining the backline at the moment, kept Daisy to not many possessions. Yes makes mistakes sometimes but given the amount of times the ball comes his way, that has to be expected occasionally
Schneider - There is one thing he has in spades and that is class and we need it. He reads the game just about better than any other saint, he gets himself in the right spot. He is having to play through the midfield too much for my liking, would prefer him playing as a permanent forward, but I guess it is all hands to the pump.
Dempster - is captaining the backline at the moment, kept Daisy to not many possessions. Yes makes mistakes sometimes but given the amount of times the ball comes his way, that has to be expected occasionally
Schneider - There is one thing he has in spades and that is class and we need it. He reads the game just about better than any other saint, he gets himself in the right spot. He is having to play through the midfield too much for my liking, would prefer him playing as a permanent forward, but I guess it is all hands to the pump.
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Anyone calling for Dempster to be dropped or carrying on about Gwilt needs to get a broader perspective on football and break the habit on nkeejerk reactions.
For a little perspective, our starting back six against Carlton had a combined games tally of 356, for an average of 59.3 games played per player. Dempster and Gwilt make up 285 of those 356 games, meaning the other four backmen had a combined total of 71 games played for an average of 17.7 games played per player.
For a little further perspective, Dustin Fletcher has played 385 games. By himnself he has played more games than the combined total of our entire back starting six Monday night !! Think about the fact that two thirds of our defence had a combined total of just over three seasons worth of games !!
If you want to see us get the mother of all poundings every single week, please rid our team of any and all experience and throw the kids to the wolves.
Jimmy may have slowed post knee injury, Sean may have had a poor game (debatable), but they stay until we can get Fisher or Gilbo back in. Even if we can get Roberton fit and firing, at least he''s got about 40 games to his name.....
And any calls for our only functioning forward to be sent to the back line should be met with an offer of a phone number for a good drug rehab clininc.
For a little perspective, our starting back six against Carlton had a combined games tally of 356, for an average of 59.3 games played per player. Dempster and Gwilt make up 285 of those 356 games, meaning the other four backmen had a combined total of 71 games played for an average of 17.7 games played per player.
For a little further perspective, Dustin Fletcher has played 385 games. By himnself he has played more games than the combined total of our entire back starting six Monday night !! Think about the fact that two thirds of our defence had a combined total of just over three seasons worth of games !!
If you want to see us get the mother of all poundings every single week, please rid our team of any and all experience and throw the kids to the wolves.
Jimmy may have slowed post knee injury, Sean may have had a poor game (debatable), but they stay until we can get Fisher or Gilbo back in. Even if we can get Roberton fit and firing, at least he''s got about 40 games to his name.....
And any calls for our only functioning forward to be sent to the back line should be met with an offer of a phone number for a good drug rehab clininc.
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Jones did a reasonable job against Carlton, and got the hard ball in a few crucial contests when a lot of his teammates were not prepared to put their head over it. He is low in turnover and clanger stats generally compared to some of his more highly fancied teammates. The backline will always be under pressure when the midfield doesn't get enough of the ball and plays bad defensively, as has happened the last three games, and we expect a lot of Dempster and Gwilt to keep turning back the tide when the ball keeps coming back at them.
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With 8 kicks & 13 HB's Jones went at 52% disposal efficiency (3rd last), he was poor like a lot of our players.spert wrote:Jones did a reasonable job against Carlton, and got the hard ball in a few crucial contests when a lot of his teammates were not prepared to put their head over it. He is low in turnover and clanger stats generally compared to some of his more highly fancied teammates. The backline will always be under pressure when the midfield doesn't get enough of the ball and plays bad defensively, as has happened the last three games, and we expect a lot of Dempster and Gwilt to keep turning back the tide when the ball keeps coming back at them.
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I've been told it wasn't the case, Dempster was not taggeddragit wrote:million dollar daisywally wrote:On footy classified they said that carlton had someone in a defensive role on dempster
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SainterK wrote:I've been told it wasn't the case, Dempster was not taggeddragit wrote:million dollar daisywally wrote:On footy classified they said that carlton had someone in a defensive role on dempster
He was tagged, but also released, as part of the move to more sustainable list practises.........
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Did Rex give him a kiss?True Believer wrote:SainterK wrote: I've been told it wasn't the case, Dempster was not tagged
He was tagged, but also released, as part of the move to more sustainable list practises.........
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I thought Jimmy Webster and Acres made heaps more obvious mistakes under pressure than the old guys. They are not going to find it easier with out them along side. Throwing kids to the wolves doesn't make for better players. Dempster has had a great year again under more pressure than most backmen of his size. Delaney will take a gorilla out of the equation but the bulk of the general play is left to Dempster, Gwilt and Webster.True Believer wrote:Anyone calling for Dempster to be dropped or carrying on about Gwilt needs to get a broader perspective on football and break the habit on nkeejerk reactions.
For a little perspective, our starting back six against Carlton had a combined games tally of 356, for an average of 59.3 games played per player. Dempster and Gwilt make up 285 of those 356 games, meaning the other four backmen had a combined total of 71 games played for an average of 17.7 games played per player.
For a little further perspective, Dustin Fletcher has played 385 games. By himnself he has played more games than the combined total of our entire back starting six Monday night !! Think about the fact that two thirds of our defence had a combined total of just over three seasons worth of games !!
If you want to see us get the mother of all poundings every single week, please rid our team of any and all experience and throw the kids to the wolves.
Jimmy may have slowed post knee injury, Sean may have had a poor game (debatable), but they stay until we can get Fisher or Gilbo back in. Even if we can get Roberton fit and firing, at least he''s got about 40 games to his name.....
And any calls for our only functioning forward to be sent to the back line should be met with an offer of a phone number for a good drug rehab clininc.
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Injury list isn't helping us in any way. However we can't keep carrying crap players like Jones and Sipposs and expect to improve enough to avoid the Richmond/Carlton curse.
Milera and Weller are VFL standard. Bruce, Shenton and Longer are young guys playing because of injury to first choice players but clearly aren't up to it right now. Now is the time for the Pelican to show us his much vaunted recruiting nouse. Big clean up in the off season is desperately needed.
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Milera and Weller are VFL standard. Bruce, Shenton and Longer are young guys playing because of injury to first choice players but clearly aren't up to it right now. Now is the time for the Pelican to show us his much vaunted recruiting nouse. Big clean up in the off season is desperately needed.
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