Changes vs Hawthorn

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gringo wrote:
joffaboy wrote:out Eli, Ross, Gwilt

In: Weller, Schneider, Fisher

Why Gwilt he's been very good for the last couple of games?
Nothing against him however Webster, Dempster and Bruce have done enough to stay in. Delaney is required and Fisher IMHO is a must in if fit.

Love it when Jimmy plays well, his long penetrating kicks were terrific against the Bombers, but his turnovers in the last game cost a plety.

Ross is really not set for a Hawthorn type. Sounds like Weller is kicking the door down and Schneider is a no brainer


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Post: # 1455260Post BigMart »

Gwilt needs to improve his defensive efforts..... His intensity without the footy might be a start.


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Post: # 1455278Post Con Gorozidis »

In: Schneider Weller
Out: Templeton, Someone injured


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Re: Changes vs Hawthorn

Post: # 1455282Post 8856brother »

Doesn't look like Fisher played at Sandy today. Does anyone know why?


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Re: Changes vs Hawthorn

Post: # 1455288Post Bernard Shakey »

8856brother wrote:Doesn't look like Fisher played at Sandy today. Does anyone know why?
If he couldn't play on Friday, why would you think he'd play today.
He didn't play Friday because he was sore after the flight, which was on Tuesday. We flew back yesterday! How do you think he feels today?


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joffaboy wrote:
Ross is really not set for a Hawthorn type. Sounds like Weller is kicking the door down and Schneider is a no brainer
Playing the young guys, like Ross shouldn't revolve around who the opposition is. We will get beaten by Hawthorn whether Ross plays or not. It's about developing the youngsters (including Ross) as best and as quickly as possible. I think playing him against the likes of Mitchell, Hodge etc would be invaluable experience.

In terms of INs/Outs...

IN: Schneider, Markworth
Out: Savage, Saunders

I wouldn't be surprised if they gave either or both of Dunstan and Billings a rest. Dunstan in particular has taken on a big workload in a short period of time.

I also think Delaney's place in the side isn't that secure. He competes well, but he gives us nothing when we have the ball, plus Simpkin has been good all year.

Fisher, in my opinion, needs more game time in the VFL. So does Acres.


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Re: Changes vs Hawthorn

Post: # 1455299Post saintbob »

OUT: Jones, Templeton and Saunders

In: Schnieder, Weller and Fisher


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Re: Changes vs Hawthorn

Post: # 1455302Post Con Gorozidis »

I forgot about fisher....
and acres and roberton also knocking on the door.....

Templeton and anyone with a niggle out

in schneider acres weller robbo fisher

we have some real depth..... not sure how many chances savage gets?
Maybe saunders needs a rest too.
maybe even cj needs a rest .


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Re: Changes vs Hawthorn

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Bernard Shakey wrote:
8856brother wrote:Doesn't look like Fisher played at Sandy today. Does anyone know why?
If he couldn't play on Friday, why would you think he'd play today.
He didn't play Friday because he was sore after the flight, which was on Tuesday. We flew back yesterday! How do you think he feels today?
Thanks for answering my question. Apologise I'm not in the loop. Hope the pills are helping. :roll:


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8856brother wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:
8856brother wrote:Doesn't look like Fisher played at Sandy today. Does anyone know why?
If he couldn't play on Friday, why would you think he'd play today.
He didn't play Friday because he was sore after the flight, which was on Tuesday. We flew back yesterday! How do you think he feels today?
Thanks for answering my question. Apologise I'm not in the loop. Hope the pills are helping. :roll:
Seems like they made a mistake flying him to NZ. Was he 1st or 2nd emergency?


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I'd give Acres a go considering all the other young kids got a go. If not maybe the following game against carlton.


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Post: # 1455341Post remboy »

joffaboy wrote:out Eli, Ross, Gwilt

In: Weller, Schneider, Fisher
How does Weller get in when he's a rookie?


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Post: # 1455345Post PJ »

Acres may just get a go if it's outside run and footy smarts we are after.

The thing going against Mav getting an elevation is the amount of inside mids we currently have - Armo, Lenny, Dunstan, Curren, Jones, Steven & Ross.


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QuestionOfAccuracy wrote:
joffaboy wrote:
Ross is really not set for a Hawthorn type. Sounds like Weller is kicking the door down and Schneider is a no brainer
Playing the young guys, like Ross shouldn't revolve around who the opposition is. We will get beaten by Hawthorn whether Ross plays or not. It's about developing the youngsters (including Ross) as best and as quickly as possible. I think playing him against the likes of Mitchell, Hodge etc would be invaluable experience.

In terms of INs/Outs...

IN: Schneider, Markworth
Out: Savage, Saunders

I wouldn't be surprised if they gave either or both of Dunstan and Billings a rest. Dunstan in particular has taken on a big workload in a short period of time.

I also think Delaney's place in the side isn't that secure. He competes well, but he gives us nothing when we have the ball, plus Simpkin has been good all year.

Fisher, in my opinion, needs more game time in the VFL. So does Acres.
Dont understand this. First you want to develop the kids, but then you want to drop Saunders?????

Anyway what is Weller if he is not a kid? Do we develop kids who aren't up to it and therefore we dont develop kids with the potential to make it?

Not saying Ross wont and Weller will but ATM I dont think Ross is up to it, and Weller is beating the door down as a hard inside mid.

As for Delaney, you must be watching a different STKFC go around. Last year all the opposition had to do was kick it high into our 50 for the Key Forward to take a mark. Not one team has had their key forward kick a bag this year because Delaney is doing the job.

He is doing a sterling job


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remboy wrote:
joffaboy wrote:out Eli, Ross, Gwilt

In: Weller, Schneider, Fisher
How does Weller get in when he's a rookie?
Predicated on Weller being elevated to the senior list


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Re: Changes vs Hawthorn

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QuestionOfAccuracy wrote:
joffaboy wrote:
Ross is really not set for a Hawthorn type. Sounds like Weller is kicking the door down and Schneider is a no brainer
Playing the young guys, like Ross shouldn't revolve around who the opposition is. We will get beaten by Hawthorn whether Ross plays or not. It's about developing the youngsters (including Ross) as best and as quickly as possible. I think playing him against the likes of Mitchell, Hodge etc would be invaluable experience.

In terms of INs/Outs...

IN: Schneider, Markworth
Out: Savage, Saunders

I wouldn't be surprised if they gave either or both of Dunstan and Billings a rest. Dunstan in particular has taken on a big workload in a short period of time.

I also think Delaney's place in the side isn't that secure. He competes well, but he gives us nothing when we have the ball, plus Simpkin has been good all year.

Fisher, in my opinion, needs more game time in the VFL. So does Acres.
So Eli plays with a broken arm?


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Re: Changes vs Hawthorn

Post: # 1455382Post maverick »

Out Eli, Saunders & Gwilt
In Weller, Schneider & Fisher


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Re: Changes vs Hawthorn

Post: # 1455414Post spert »

I think Gwilt and Saunders could go for Dunnnell and Simpkin, and Eli is out so maybe a wildcard in.


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Post: # 1456023Post Furphy »

Out: Templeton, Ross, Saunders
In: Baldock, Harvey, Ian Stewart (I wish)


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Re: Changes vs Hawthorn

Post: # 1456032Post samoht »

Instead of resting Saunders, I'd like to see him play his normal running game - i.e., he could stop being a tagger/tackling machine/battering ram for a week or two, and start gathering 20 plus possessions, forward of the centre. That's almost like a rest, anyway. I love his pace/line breaking ability.

I think Acres is ready for his debut - on the wing or halfback. Maybe try him as a third tall forward?


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Post: # 1456195Post tony74 »

TDL right in the mix.


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Post: # 1456198Post Old Mate »

tony74 wrote:TDL right in the mix.
I take it you are going off the saints.com article?

Who would he come in for (assuming Schnieder for Eli)? If he came in for an injury-free Billings I'd just about vomit :|


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Post: # 1456200Post tony74 »

Haven't read the website. I take it from training, squads and groups at training and " silent whispers "!!


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Post: # 1456203Post Old Mate »

tony74 wrote:Haven't read the website. I take it from training, squads and groups at training and " silent whispers "!!
Well its in line with the 'In the mix: Round 7' article on the Saints website. Looks like you may be right. :(

http://www.saints.com.au/news/2014-04-2 ... ix-round-7


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Re: Changes vs Hawthorn

Post: # 1456219Post FQF »

Not sure there's any reason to believe TDL will have any more of an impact this time compared to previous attempts. He always plays well in the VFL and it's never translated. Unless people in the know can tell us of some other objective areas of his game that have improved?

Would love to see Acres and Markworth - those two excite me the most.


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