crystal ball time ...

[st_Trav_ofWA]

mainly cause there is not much going on round here at the moment (maybe the absence of the naughty 3 not commenting on everything) i thought i would get in early with the prediction thread for season 2014:

lets start with our club :

Ladder position at years end- 17th
Higest goal scorer - Tom Lee (42)
Trevor Barker medalist - Geary
Rising star nominations - 2 (Dunstan & Longer)
Highest brownlow vote getter - Steven


now for the rest :

Ladder by end of last round-

Hawthorn
Sydney
Fremantle
North Melbourne
Richmond
Collingwood
Geelong
Carlton

Gold Coast
West Coast
Port Adelaide
Essendon
Adelaide
Western Bulldogs
Melbourne
Greater Western Sydney
St Kilda
Brisbane Lions

Flag - Fremantle
runner up - Sydney
Brownlow - Trent Cotchin (Richmond)
Colman - Jack Riewoldt
hero of the year - Pavlich overcoming a tough year to finish his carreer with a flag
villan of the year - Eddie Maguire for refusing to apologise to Nicky Winmar on behalf of Collingwood before the indigenous round clash
coach under most pressure - Malthouse with Carlton getting impatient for the flag
headline we want to see - ASADA swing the axe as Demetriou calls it a day
headline we wish we dont see - ASADA no closer to decision as investigation turns to all clubs
Former Saint who will have the better season - Dal Santo over Ball over Goddard over McEvoy

[Con Gorozidis]

Love your Work Trav!

Ill have a crack.

Ladder position at years end- 15th
Higest goal scorer - Tom Lee (43)
Trevor Barker medalist - Geary/Armitage
Rising star nominations - Longer Possible nominations: Dunstan, Saunders, Wright (Webster not eligible as he has played 11 games but is still under 21).
Highest brownlow vote getter - Steven 17 votes


now for the rest :

Ladder by end of last round-

Fremantle
Sydney
Hawks
Pies
Cats
North Melbourne
Richmond
Gold Coast
---------------
Power
Crows
Essendon
Western Bulldogs
Greater Western Sydney
St Kilda
Melbourne
Eagles
Brisbane Lions

Flag - Fremantle
runner up - Sydney
Brownlow - P Dangerfield (Crows)
Colman - K Tippett
hero of the year - Pavlich to go out on top
villan of the year - James Hird
coach under most pressure - James Hird/Malthouse as the Blues start to come to terms with the state of their list as middle of the road
headline we want to see - Milne Acquitted as charges dropped
headline we wish we dont see - HIrd cleared and offered millions in compensation
Former Saint who will have the better season - Dal Santo , Goddard, McEvoy [/quote] Ball to struggle to get a game as Taylor Adams makes his mark at Pies.

[st_Trav_ofWA]

cheers Con ... i dont think Webster or Saunders are eligible to be rising star noms ... Jimmy Webster has played 11 games already and Saunders is on 10 games right now .. i think its under 10 games and under 21

[bergholt]

Good work Trav.

Ladder position at years end: 18th
Highest goal scorer: Nick Riewoldt (46)
Trevor Barker Medallist: Leigh Montagna from Jack Steven and Nick Riewoldt
Rising Star nominations: 2 (Saunders, Wright) (eligible Saunders, Longer, Murdoch, Wright, Minchington, Acres, Billings, Dunstan, Pierce, Templeton, White)
Highest Brownlow vote getter: Montagna


Ladder by end of last round:

Sydney
Hawthorn
Collingwood
Fremantle
Geelong
Richmond
North Melbourne
Port Adelaide

Gold Coast
Carlton
Essendon
Western Bulldogs
Greater Western Sydney
Adelaide
Brisbane Lions
West Coast
Melbourne
St Kilda

Flag: Collingwood
Runner-Up: Sydney
Brownlow: Scott Pendlebury
Coleman: Jarryd Roughead
Hero of the year: Pavlich overcoming a tough year to finish his carreer with a flag
Villain of the year: James Hird for his six figure media contract
Coach under most pressure: Damien Hardwick
Headline we want to see: Billings odds on favourite for Rising Star
Headline we wish we don't see: Saad sues St Kilda for allowing him to take prohibited drugs
Former Saint who will have the better season: Goddard just ahead of Dal Santo

[st_Trav_ofWA]

i think its strange you both have WCE in the bottom 4 ... last year i reckon they held back once they knew top 4 was out of the question this year with a new coach i reckon the will be just outside the 8 provided they can get their best 22 out on the park more often .. i was really tempted to put Gold coast into the 8 as i reckon they are set for a big year and will take some big scalps this year ... Richmond for me are the dark horse i think they could have a really big year .. the Swans are the one team more than anyother that i dont want to see win the flag .. its strange i would rather see Geelong win another or Collingwood or even Carlton over the swans ..

[QuestionOfAccuracy]

Ladder position at years end- 18th
Higest goal scorer - Nick Riewoldt (40)
Trevor Barker medalist - Jack Steven
Rising star nominations - 4 (Dunstan, Wright, Longer, Acres)
Highest brownlow vote getter - Steven


now for the rest :

Ladder by end of last round-

Fremantle
Hawthorn
Sydney
Richmond
North Melbourne
Geelong
Collingwood
Essendon

Gold Coast
Carlton
West Coast
Port Adelaide
Adelaide
Western Bulldogs
Melbourne
Greater Western Sydney
Brisbane Lions
St Kilda

Flag - Hawthorn
Runner up - Fremantle
Brownlow - Daniel Hannebury
Coleman - K Tippett
Hero of the year - Rhys Stanley for work with Pugs SOS (not for his football)
Villain of the year - AFL Rules Committee (all of them)
coach under most pressure - Guy McKenna
headline we want to see - Saints in the black for 2014
headline we wish we dont see - AFL announces player names to be printed on guernseys

[magnifisaint]

I can see you're all optimists!

[whiskers3614]

I can see you're all optimists!

lots of Lyon lovers too!

[ROLS-LEE]

Ladder position at years end- 16th
Most goals saints- Roo 64goals
Trevor Barker medalist -Monty Steven will get tagged
rising start nom 2 Dunstan Longer
Brownlow- Monty

Freo
Swans
North
Hawks
Bombers -> without infractions
Tigers
cats
Power

Suns
Magpies
Blues
Eagles
Doggies
Crows
GWS
Saints
Demons
Lions

Freo flag

Dal Brownlow
Fyfe/Barlow Norm Smith
Roughy Coleman

[saintbob]

Ladder position at years end- 16th
Most goals saints- Roo 47
Trevor Barker medalist - Steven
Rising Star - Dunstan and Wright
Most Brownlow Votes @ StK - Steven
Premiers - Swans
Norm Smith - K Jack
Coleman - Roughhead
Brownlow - Pendlebury

[Con Gorozidis]

Trav - I feel uneasy about the Eagles. I feel they are a bit like us - no mans land.

Their old guys are too old and their young guys too young.

Kennedy and NicNat are primed - but two players isn't enough for them.

The team I feel will rise the highest is Norf. If they can stop choking they will be top 4.

[aaron82]

Ladder position at years end: 15th
Highest goal scorer: Nick Riewoldt (52)
Trevor Barker Medallist: Jack Steven
Rising Star nominations: (3) Billings, Longer, Dunstan
Highest Brownlow vote getter: Steven


Ladder by end of last round:

Hawthorn
Sydney
Essendon
Fremantle
Richmond
North Melbourne
Gold Coast
West Coast Eagles

Geelong
Collingwood
Adelaide
Carlton
Port Adelaide
Western Bulldogs
St.Kilda
GWS
Melbourne
Brisbane

Flag: Sydney
Runner-Up: Fremantle
Brownlow: Jobe Watson
Coleman: Jarryd Roughead
Hero of the year: Franklin turning it on in the GF to justify his contract
Villain of the year: Andrew Demetriou enough said
Coach under most pressure: Mick Malthouse/Buckley
Headline we want to see: Saints membership on the rise after a 2/0 start
Headline we wish we don't see: Saints midfield in ruins as Steven does ACL
Former Saint who will have the better season: McEvoy, over Goddard and then Dal

[cwrcyn]

Ladder position at year's end - 15th
Highest goal scorer - Beau Maister - 37
Trevor Barker medallist - Sean Dempster
Rising Star nominations - Nil
Highest Brownlow score - Montagna

End of year ladder

North Melbourne
Hawthorn
Fremantle
Geelong
Richmond
Essendon
Port Adelaide
Carlton

Collingwood
Adelaide
West Coast
Gold Coast
BBulldogs
Brisbane
St Kilda
Melbourne
GWS

Flag: North Melbourne
Runner up: Fremantle
Brownlow: Nathan Fyffe
Coleman: Jack Riewoldt

[cwrcyn]

Forgot Sydney. They'll be 2nd probably

[Ghost Like]

Ladder position at years end- 15th
Higest goal scorer - Riewoldt (63)
Trevor Barker medalist - Riewoldt
Rising star nominations - 3 (Longer - Rd 2, Dunstan = Rd 9, Billings - Rd 19)
Highest brownlow vote getter - Montagna


now for the rest :

Ladder by end of last round-

Fremantle
Sydney
North Melbourne
Hawthorn
Port Adelaide
Collingwood
West Coast
Gold Coast

Geelong
Richmond
Adelaide
Carlton
Western Bulldogs
Essendon
St Kilda
Greater Western Sydney
Brisbane
Melbourne

Flag - Sydney
runner up - North Melbourne
Brownlow - Dangerfield / Fyfe
Coleman - Franklin
hero of the year - Andrew Swallow's return to lead the Kangas into the GF
villan of the year - Demetriou for treating the football public as idiots (again)
coach under most pressure - Malthouse: Too many deflections about what is really wrong with Carlton & their list
headline we want to see - Saints Make Deal with Junction Oval for Home Base
headline we wish we dont see - Demtriou given 5 year extension
Former Saint who will have the better season - Dal Santo (daylight)

[Goddard Magic]

Ladder by end of last round-

Fremantle
Sydney
Hawks
Pies
Cats
North Melbourne
Richmond
Gold Coast
---------------
Power
Crows
Essendon
Western Bulldogs
Greater Western Sydney
St Kilda
Melbourne
Eagles
Brisbane Lions

Good effort but where do you think the Bloos will finish?

[Freebird]

St Trav, what was/is the word on Acres in Perth. I'm hoping he'll be one of the picks of the draft.

[plugger66]

St Trav, what was/is the word on Acres in Perth. I'm hoping he'll be one of the picks of the draft.

He covers the ground well.

[gringo]

Depressingly I hear Billy Hartung is absolutely smashing it at Hawthorn and they say he will end the career of Sewell this year and be a massive score for them. We just about had him on the payroll at Seaford. Bontempelli is absolutely creaming it at the Dogs too. I thought he might be another Andreas Everitt but looks like he's more Pendlebury mixed with Josh Kennedy.

No pressure on our new recruits but they had better be better than they are so far. That said I like the kids we got...they just had better get good quickly so I don't have to look at the Hawks recruiting and the Pies and cry a little.

[cwrcyn]

WE've had plenty who have smashed it at pre-season and then disappeared. It was a surprise to me that so many overlooked Harting, though

[Con Gorozidis]

Ladder by end of last round-

Fremantle
Sydney
Hawks
Pies
Cats
North Melbourne
Richmond
Gold Coast
---------------
Power
Crows
Essendon
Western Bulldogs
Greater Western Sydney
St Kilda
Melbourne
Eagles
Brisbane Lions

Good effort but where do you think the Bloos will finish?

See - I must have mentally blanked them out
Same old same old for the Blues 9th-11th.
Lack of scoring options being their problem still.

[White Winmar]

Depressingly I hear Billy Hartung is absolutely smashing it at Hawthorn and they say he will end the career of Sewell this year and be a massive score for them. We just about had him on the payroll at Seaford. Bontempelli is absolutely creaming it at the Dogs too. I thought he might be another Andreas Everitt but looks like he's more Pendlebury mixed with Josh Kennedy.

No pressure on our new recruits but they had better be better than they are so far. That said I like the kids we got...they just had better get good quickly so I don't have to look at the Hawks recruiting and the Pies and cry a little.

Steady on there, Gringo. A massive difference between the track and a game. Remember the term, "March Champion"? History is littered with them. Let's see how Billy goes when the real stuff starts. I doubt he'll even be a regular senior payer, much less end the career of a player of the quality of Sewell. I've seen a bit of Billy at junior level, and while he's got plenty of upside, he's got a long way to go before he breaks into a premiership side.

[citywest]

Highest goal scorer - Tom Lee 70
Trevor Barker medalist - Armitage
Rising star nomination - Billings
Highest brownlow vote getter - Steven


now for the rest :

Ladder by end of last round-

Sydney
Fremantle
Hawthorn
Geelong
North Melbourne
Richmond
Collingwood
West Coast
Port Adelaide
Adelaide
Gold Coast
Essendon
Western Bulldogs
Carlton
Greater Western Sydney
Melbourne
Brisbane Lions
St Kilda

Flag - Sydney
Runner up - Hawthorn
Brownlow - Jack Steven
Colman - Tom Lee

[plugger66]

Highest goal scorer - Tom Lee 70
Trevor Barker medalist - Armitage
Rising star nomination - Billings
Highest brownlow vote getter - Steven


now for the rest :

Ladder by end of last round-

Sydney
Fremantle
Hawthorn
Geelong
North Melbourne
Richmond
Collingwood
West Coast
Port Adelaide
Adelaide
Gold Coast
Essendon
Western Bulldogs
Carlton
Greater Western Sydney
Melbourne
Brisbane Lions
St Kilda

Flag - Sydney
Runner up - Hawthorn
Brownlow - Jack Steven
Colman - Tom Lee

Tom Lee 70 and we finish last. Yep. Steven brownlow and we finish last. yep.

[St Ick]

Depressingly I hear Billy Hartung is absolutely smashing it at Hawthorn and they say he will end the career of Sewell this year and be a massive score for them. We just about had him on the payroll at Seaford. Bontempelli is absolutely creaming it at the Dogs too. I thought he might be another Andreas Everitt but looks like he's more Pendlebury mixed with Josh Kennedy.

No pressure on our new recruits but they had better be better than they are so far. That said I like the kids we got...they just had better get good quickly so I don't have to look at the Hawks recruiting and the Pies and cry a little.

Acres has a chance of actually being the best player in this draft which we will not know for another 5 or so years at least, I would've been furious if we'd taken Hartung over Acres, we don't need another midget on our list, Acres provides something we don't have much of - a tall mid with excellent athletic pedigree who can play anywhere with fantastic leadership credentials. Hartung is a fit, small runner who had issues following instructions.

If Hartung comes good, then every other team other than Essendon can kick themselves also. I'm sure plenty of teams will kick themselves when they see Every kid in the land with Templetons # on their back or Acres.