Ross Tungatulum story

[Con Gorozidis]

http://www.ntnews.com.au/sport/australi ... 6772031628

[skeptic]

I still reckon we have an issue with indigenous players

Nicky Winmar, supremely talented and good career however a number of off-field issues regarding blow ups and walk outs
Xavier and Raph Clarke ----- never got their body right in 5+ years
Ross T - left for home after a season
Terry Milera - reportedly wanting to go home at the end of every season (speculative)
Andrew Lovett last 2 months with two off field incidents (though I wouldn't call this well known trouble maker a saints player)
Nicholaus Winmar - commitment issues and then cut suddenly

Seems our development of indigenous talent is an area in which we can improve

[Con Gorozidis]

I still reckon we have an issue with indigenous players

Nicky Winmar, supremely talented and good career however a number of off-field issues regarding blow ups and walk outs
Xavier and Raph Clarke ----- never got their body right in 5+ years
Ross T - left for home after a season
Terry Milera - reportedly wanting to go home at the end of every season (speculative)
Andrew Lovett last 2 months with two off field incidents (though I wouldn't call this well known trouble maker a saints player)
Nicholaus Winmar - commitment issues and then cut suddenly

Seems our development of indigenous talent is an area in which we can improve

It is interesting because the Hawks hardly had an indigenous player at all in the 80s 90s 00s but now they have the most whereas we were pioneers (Narkle, Jeffrey, Muir) but we have dropped the ball a little in recent times. Hopefully Milera has a good year in 14.

This interview is sensational with Gilbert and Nicky. True legends .

[Batnoe]

If he was good enough he'd still be there.

Perhaps still at afl with someone else.

Perhaps Ledger should still be a saint?

[whiskers3614]

I still reckon we have an issue with indigenous players

Nicky Winmar, supremely talented and good career however a number of off-field issues regarding blow ups and walk outs
Xavier and Raph Clarke ----- never got their body right in 5+ years
Ross T - left for home after a season
Terry Milera - reportedly wanting to go home at the end of every season (speculative)
Andrew Lovett last 2 months with two off field incidents (though I wouldn't call this well known trouble maker a saints player)
Nicholaus Winmar - commitment issues and then cut suddenly

Seems our development of indigenous talent is an area in which we can improve

Get Sheedy quick!

[skeptic]

If he was good enough he'd still be there.

Perhaps still at afl with someone else.

Perhaps Ledger should still be a saint?

Don't know what Ledger has to do with this conversation

One cannot question the club's ability to develop talent here even when particular strategies seem flawed

hey I guess it's just the recruitment... every single time... though that's miraculously fixed now, but for three years it was every single pick

also, players walking out on the club is not an issue... they pbly weren't good enough anyway

[gringo]

Playing footy at Sandy in the rain at TBBO would have been pretty mind blowing for a young guy from Tiwi. You can understand thefeeling of home sickness and he wouldn't have been given any guarantees that there was anything but years of the same thing. It was a shame because he was an excitement machine. A more delicate senior coach might have been able to offer a little more encouragement but it is what it is.

[ace]

I still reckon we have an issue with indigenous players

Nicky Winmar, supremely talented and good career however a number of off-field issues regarding blow ups and walk outs

Yes I remember one from the days before the internet really got going.

Seems Nicky with a smashed shoulder got a little upset when he was abandoned by all the club personel out at Waverley , left to find his own way home unaided.
When it got into the press the club bagged him for being a wimp.
Yeah, this is the wimp who gave it to the racist Collingwood members grandstand at Victoria Park.
No wonder we didn't win a premiership in Nicky's era.

Now we have some coterie misandrist wanting the club to abandon Milne.

[Megamaguire]

St.K. did indeed make a considerable contribution to including Indigenous players in afl footy.
Interesting observation of the hawks making indigenous players a real strength in their team's success.

St.Kilda have dropped the ball a bit but @ the same time were unlucky with Xavier getting cruelled withinjury.
Would love to see some Indigenous class back in the red, white and black soon.

Gilbert is pure gold on the Mangarook Footy show and Nicky is still withus which is comforting after his medical scare.

GO SAINTS!

[skeptic]

I'm trying to think back, has there been any successful indigenous Saints players since Nicky?

in addition to the above list, I remember

Sean Charles and Fred Campbell drafted and clearly not up to it

Gavin Mitchell I think? Was he indigenous? One trick pony.

Milera and TDL don't look like they'll make it though I'm hopeful for Terry...

It seems to me that we haven't been able to develop any of our indigenous recruits for nearly 15 years

[plugger66]

I'm trying to think back, has there been any successful indigenous Saints players since Nicky?

in addition to the above list, I remember

Sean Charles and Fred Campbell drafted and clearly not up to it

Gavin Mitchell I think? Was he indigenous? One trick pony.

Milera and TDL don't look like they'll make it though I'm hopeful for Terry...

It seems to me that we haven't been able to develop any of our indigenous recruits for nearly 15 years

TDL shouldnt be on this list because he isnt indigenoues, well not to Australia anyway.

[HitTheBoundary]

TDL is of Burmese descent, he has a Burmese father.

[skeptic]

point taken

[SinCitySainter]

Xavier Clarke played 105 games for us and Raph played 85.
I would count both of those as successful careers

[BigMart]

Injury cruelled careers... Both of them

Ross could play.... Drafted too early.... He could not adapt at ha age.... And he was tiny

He is worth another shot IMO he has put on size and at least looks like a man now... He has lots of talent

[Sainternist]

Phil Narkle didn't last long at St Kilda.
Both Gilbert and Greg McAdam didn't have particularly lengthy tenures at Moorabbin either.
Reckon Raph Clarke did alright, considering he wasn't the most talented footballer. Xavier was the underachiever for mine.

Wish we had a Michael Long or Peter Matera back in the day.

[stinger]

Injury cruelled careers... Both of them

Ross could play.... Drafted too early.... He could not adapt at ha age.... And he was tiny

He is worth another shot IMO he has put on size and at least looks like a man now... He has lots of talent

he got his second chance with gws......they cut him too...

[plugger66]

Injury cruelled careers... Both of them

Ross could play.... Drafted too early.... He could not adapt at ha age.... And he was tiny

He is worth another shot IMO he has put on size and at least looks like a man now... He has lots of talent

he got his second chance with gws......they cut him too...

Who did?

[BigMart]

He only played a few games in the seconds to make up the numbers... Was never on the list or training with GWS

[stinger]

He only played a few games in the seconds to make up the numbers... Was never on the list or training with GWS

yep...he played in their seconds...nth east conference i believe....against sydney swans and actafl clubs amongst others.....went home from there too...

[BigMart]

He was actually playing in Sydney in the NTFL off season... Has played in Victoria too....

He is ATM in the best couple of players in the NTFL

[stinger]

He was actually playing in Sydney in the NTFL off season... Has played in Victoria too....

He is ATM in the best couple of players in the NTFL

he was playing for the giants....

History

The NEAFL was formed at the end of 2010 primarily as an amalgamation of the two major football leagues in Australia's north-east - the Queensland Australian Football League, based in South-East Queensland and including one team from the Northern Territory, and AFL Canberra, based around ACT, and including one team from Sydney (the reserves team of the AFL's Sydney Swans). The two leagues were converted to NEAFL conferences: the Northern Conference, serving Queensland and the Northern Territory, and the Eastern Conference, serving New South Wales and the ACT. Teams from the two conferences played matches against each other throughout the home-and-away season, before each conference staged a separate finals competition to determine both a northern premier and an eastern premier. The two premiers then played each other in the NEAFL Grand Final.

Two new teams also joined the competition for its inaugural season in 2011: the reserves team of Gold Coast Football Club (whose senior team joined the AFL in the same season); and the senior team of the Greater Western Sydney Football Club, which was preparing to join the AFL in 2012. These two clubs would have joined the QAFL and AFL Canberra respectively, had the NEAFL not been formed.

In 2012, two more clubs joined the Eastern Conference from the AFL Sydney competition: Sydney Hills and Sydney University. With Greater Western Sydney's senior team joining the AFL, its NEAFL side became a reserves team in partnership with, and under the name of the University of Western Sydney.

On 11 May 2013, the NEAFL Northern Conference played an interstate game against South Australia who represent the South Australian National Football League (SANFL). The game, played at the City Mazda Stadium in Adelaide resulted in a 21.14 (140) to 9.4 (58) win over the NEAFL North, with SA's higher fitness level the main difference between the two sides.

A major restructure of the league was announced for the 2014 season. Five clubs will leave the competition and the conference system will be abolished. Broadbeach, Labrador, Morningside and Mt. Gravatt will join a re-constructed Queensland Australian Football League, while Tuggeranong will go back to the AFL Canberra Division One competition.[2] The possibility of a North Queensland side entering the competition for 2014 was considered but ruled out.[3]
Clubs
Guernsey Club Nickname Location Home ground First season Premierships
Ainslie
Kangaroos
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
Ainslie Oval
2011 -
Aspley Hornets Jumper.svg Aspley
Hornets
Brisbane, Queensland
Graham Rd Oval
2011 -
Belconnen
Magpies
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
Kippax Oval
2011 -
Brisbane Lions
(AFL reserves team)
Lions
Brisbane, Queensland
Giffin Park
2011 2012, 2013
Bendigo Bombers Jumper.svg Eastlake
Demons
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
Manuka Oval
2011 -
Gold Coast Jumper.svg Gold Coast
(AFL reserves team)
Suns
Gold Coast, Queensland
Carrara Stadium
2011 -
Northern Territory
Thunder
Darwin, Northern Territory
TIO Stadium
2011 2011
Queanbeyan
Tigers
Queanbeyan, New South Wales
Dairy Farmers Park
2011 -
Redland
Bombers
Brisbane, Queensland
Victoria Point
2011 -
Southport Sharks Jumper.svg
Southport
Sharks
Gold Coast, Queensland
Fankhauser Reserve
2011 -
Sydney Hills Eagles
Eagles
Sydney, New South Wales
Bruce Purser Reserve
2012 -
Sydney Swans
(AFL reserves team)
Swans
Sydney, New South Wales
Sydney Cricket Ground
2011 -
Sydney University Students Jumper.svg
Sydney University
Students
Sydney, New South Wales
Sydney University Oval
2012 -
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University of Western Sydney
(AFL reserves team)
Giants
Sydney, New South Wales
Blacktown International Sportspark



.....as i previously said....
2011 -

[The Redeemer]

I still reckon we have an issue with indigenous players

Nicky Winmar, supremely talented and good career however a number of off-field issues regarding blow ups and walk outs
Xavier and Raph Clarke ----- never got their body right in 5+ years
Ross T - left for home after a season
Terry Milera - reportedly wanting to go home at the end of every season (speculative)
Andrew Lovett last 2 months with two off field incidents (though I wouldn't call this well known trouble maker a saints player)
Nicholaus Winmar - commitment issues and then cut suddenly

Seems our development of indigenous talent is an area in which we can improve

What about all the whitey's that simply couldnt get fit, didn't care enough or were plain crap?

[skeptic]

I still reckon we have an issue with indigenous players

Nicky Winmar, supremely talented and good career however a number of off-field issues regarding blow ups and walk outs
Xavier and Raph Clarke ----- never got their body right in 5+ years
Ross T - left for home after a season
Terry Milera - reportedly wanting to go home at the end of every season (speculative)
Andrew Lovett last 2 months with two off field incidents (though I wouldn't call this well known trouble maker a saints player)
Nicholaus Winmar - commitment issues and then cut suddenly

Seems our development of indigenous talent is an area in which we can improve

What about all the whitey's that simply couldnt get fit, didn't care enough or were plain crap?

lol if you don't get the thread, then I don't think I can do much to enlighten you