7th. Behind Ross Smith !!plugger66 wrote:whiskers3614 wrote:Nobody rates Nathan Burke?
Every single person has him 6th.
my alltime top 5
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Well knobby, check other posts in this thread that didn't rate the turncoat, where is your farkin attack on them..plugger66 wrote:bobmurray wrote:Glad you can readplugger66 wrote:
Just couldnt get Plugger in there?
Opinions are ok its just uninformed opinions that are very strange. Maybe time for ignore if you knowledge of footy is like that. But then again laughing is good for your health.
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Re: my alltime top 5
1. Plugger
2. Roo
3. Baldock
4. Stewart
5. Harvey
6. Barker
7. Winmar
8. Ditterich
9. Burke
10. Smith
Apologies to Bray, Neale, Howell, Roberts, and quite a few others. We've had some decent players that's for sure.
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2. Roo
3. Baldock
4. Stewart
5. Harvey
6. Barker
7. Winmar
8. Ditterich
9. Burke
10. Smith
Apologies to Bray, Neale, Howell, Roberts, and quite a few others. We've had some decent players that's for sure.
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Re: my alltime top 5
looks like lots of us had forgotten Carl!Verdun66 wrote:1. Plugger
2. Roo
3. Baldock
4. Stewart
5. Harvey
6. Barker
7. Winmar
8. Ditterich
9. Burke
10. Smith
Apologies to Bray, Neale, Howell, Roberts, and quite a few others. We've had some decent players that's for sure.
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I don't think we forgot Carl, i think a lot of us understood the guideline...TOP 5...how can 8th be top 5 FFS...whiskers3614 wrote:looks like lots of us had forgotten Carl!Verdun66 wrote:1. Plugger
2. Roo
3. Baldock
4. Stewart
5. Harvey
6. Barker
7. Winmar
8. Ditterich
9. Burke
10. Smith
Apologies to Bray, Neale, Howell, Roberts, and quite a few others. We've had some decent players that's for sure.
Top 5 administrators might be a tad more difficult.....
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He was a superstar....no doubt about it. Size, skills and they talk these days about a tank. How he used to get around the ground....just bounded around the place.whiskers3614 wrote:looks like lots of us had forgotten Carl!Verdun66 wrote:1. Plugger
2. Roo
3. Baldock
4. Stewart
5. Harvey
6. Barker
7. Winmar
8. Ditterich
9. Burke
10. Smith
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Re: my alltime top 5
bobmurray wrote:Well knobby, check other posts in this thread that didn't rate the turncoat, where is your farkin attack on them..plugger66 wrote:bobmurray wrote:
Glad you can read
Opinions are ok its just uninformed opinions that are very strange. Maybe time for ignore if you knowledge of footy is like that. But then again laughing is good for your health.
Cannot find one person who left him out who saw him play. Its seems footy isnt the only issue. We are rating a top 5 and it seems you are rating him because he left. turncoat seems a give away. The problem with that is you have Stewart at number one. Weird.
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Re: my alltime top 5
1. Lockett
2. Stewart
3. Baldock
4. Harvey
5. Riewoldt
I didn't see Stewart or Baldock, but I trust people who did and anecdotally they need to go top three. Stewart above Doc, but apparently both had to be seen to be believed.
I did see Plugger in full flight and I know he is number one because there has never been anyone better.
After that it's all debatable, but I've gone for Harvs and Riewoldt because of their excellence over a long period.
Barker, Loewe, Winmar, Lenny, Cowboy, Ditterich among the unlucky ones.
Note that I've rated them on pure football ability ... character issues and so on didn't come into it.
2. Stewart
3. Baldock
4. Harvey
5. Riewoldt
I didn't see Stewart or Baldock, but I trust people who did and anecdotally they need to go top three. Stewart above Doc, but apparently both had to be seen to be believed.
I did see Plugger in full flight and I know he is number one because there has never been anyone better.
After that it's all debatable, but I've gone for Harvs and Riewoldt because of their excellence over a long period.
Barker, Loewe, Winmar, Lenny, Cowboy, Ditterich among the unlucky ones.
Note that I've rated them on pure football ability ... character issues and so on didn't come into it.
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i have stewie ahead of burkeplugger66 wrote:whiskers3614 wrote:Nobody rates Nathan Burke?
Every single person has him 6th.
stuies stats are awesome
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That is three of top four from Tassie!stinger wrote:i have always rated ian stewart and the doc as our two greatest players.....but with time you get to appreciate others....plugger for instance..
roo has taken out our best and fairest 5 times now and is still going stronf...to me he is our greatest ever player.....
...my rankings now are
1. roo
2. plugger.
3. stewart
4. doc
5. lenny
feel free to disagree..
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Re: my alltime top 5
Plugger
Winmar
Harvey
Roo
Hayes
Plugger is the greatest player OF ALL TIME. Not just our club's
IMO.
Winmar
Harvey
Roo
Hayes
Plugger is the greatest player OF ALL TIME. Not just our club's
IMO.
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No one else played at the level Harvey did for 300 games.... Let alone 350+
He influenced more games than any other saint... Played more finals... And in 97-98 was so dominant teams just accepted it
An 8 time All Australian.... Mind blowing
He influenced more games than any other saint... Played more finals... And in 97-98 was so dominant teams just accepted it
An 8 time All Australian.... Mind blowing
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White Winmar wrote:1. Plugger
2. Daylight or maybe Harvey
3. Roo
4. Winmar
5. Hayes
* too young to have seen the Doc and Stewie in saints colours.
That's pretty close for mine.
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Hayes has to finish 2020 to play the same amount of years as Harves.
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Re: my alltime top 5
1. Tony Lockett
2. Robert Harvey
3. Nick Riewoldt
4. Lenny Hayes
5. Nathan Burke
6. Nicky Winmar
7. Stewart Loewe
8. Danny Frawley
9. Stephen Milne
10. Fraser Gehrig
2. Robert Harvey
3. Nick Riewoldt
4. Lenny Hayes
5. Nathan Burke
6. Nicky Winmar
7. Stewart Loewe
8. Danny Frawley
9. Stephen Milne
10. Fraser Gehrig
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The Doc, then daylight. Played just over 100 games for us as a 5ft 10' CHF. All Aust Capt once, VC once, when they played Carnivals once every 4 odd years and only then had an AA side.
Holmesby wrote an early book where he named the Top 100. From memory had Doc 3, behind Stewie and Plugger. I had the argument with Russ, and he admitted he never had an answer to the question "How would Doc have gone if he'd played in the middle, and could Stewie have played at CHF anywhere near as well (they were around the same size).
Doc was the AFL king pin. When he went on WoS, everyone basically bowed in his presence. A wonderful footballer, a glorious man and the best leader a football club could want. Smart, sharp and truly respected.
He did some truly extraordinary things on field. None more so than his ability to play hurt (e.g. '66 finals series).
He stands alone in my mind. But, each to their own, of course.
Holmesby wrote an early book where he named the Top 100. From memory had Doc 3, behind Stewie and Plugger. I had the argument with Russ, and he admitted he never had an answer to the question "How would Doc have gone if he'd played in the middle, and could Stewie have played at CHF anywhere near as well (they were around the same size).
Doc was the AFL king pin. When he went on WoS, everyone basically bowed in his presence. A wonderful footballer, a glorious man and the best leader a football club could want. Smart, sharp and truly respected.
He did some truly extraordinary things on field. None more so than his ability to play hurt (e.g. '66 finals series).
He stands alone in my mind. But, each to their own, of course.
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Re: my alltime top 5
Plugger 898 goals in 183 games in sh*t teams.
They dont kick themselves either.
My rankings
Plugger
Doc
Harves
Roo
Loewe
Stewart
Winmar
Hayes
They dont kick themselves either.
My rankings
Plugger
Doc
Harves
Roo
Loewe
Stewart
Winmar
Hayes
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Re: my alltime top 5
Plugger
Harvey
Roo
Lenny
Barker
As others have said, plugger was simply the best, his aggression and suspensions mask how truly special his talent was, best I've ever seen.
Harvey just ahead of roo, very similar in that either rarely play a bad game and have done it for so long. His 97/98 seasons and his game in the 05 qf will always sit with me. Still miss him.
Roo playing the toughest position in the ground for so long getting 2 and 3 opponents regularly, and a game plan for his peak years that didn't really suit, what a champion. If he held the cup aloft may be number 1, without his hammy injury who knows, because that injury certainly has hurt his kicking for mine. True champ on and off the ground, so much like Harvey for the club, just not as long for mine...favourite of every coach, says something...
Hayes has been so good for so long, who can forget his first half in the 09 gf or his game in 2010 gf1, to be able to play his best footy on the biggest days, is legendary.
Barks just ahead of Nicky. Barks carried the side for a long time, on and off the field, and was my hero growing up, in a better team he would have been a superstar in the league not just for the saints.
Nicky, burkey, stewie, unlucky
Harvey
Roo
Lenny
Barker
As others have said, plugger was simply the best, his aggression and suspensions mask how truly special his talent was, best I've ever seen.
Harvey just ahead of roo, very similar in that either rarely play a bad game and have done it for so long. His 97/98 seasons and his game in the 05 qf will always sit with me. Still miss him.
Roo playing the toughest position in the ground for so long getting 2 and 3 opponents regularly, and a game plan for his peak years that didn't really suit, what a champion. If he held the cup aloft may be number 1, without his hammy injury who knows, because that injury certainly has hurt his kicking for mine. True champ on and off the ground, so much like Harvey for the club, just not as long for mine...favourite of every coach, says something...
Hayes has been so good for so long, who can forget his first half in the 09 gf or his game in 2010 gf1, to be able to play his best footy on the biggest days, is legendary.
Barks just ahead of Nicky. Barks carried the side for a long time, on and off the field, and was my hero growing up, in a better team he would have been a superstar in the league not just for the saints.
Nicky, burkey, stewie, unlucky
Re: my alltime top 5
BigMart wrote:No one else played at the level Harvey did for 300 games.... Let alone 350+
He influenced more games than any other saint... Played more finals... And in 97-98 was so dominant teams just accepted it
An 8 time All Australian.... Mind blowing
Just about on your own there.
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Missed the first six rounds in 91, then kicked 12, 10 and 12 in his first three games back after injury.maverick wrote:As others have said, plugger was simply the best, his aggression and suspensions mask how truly special his talent was, best I've ever seen.
"Lockett's best season at St Kilda was in 1991, when he kicked 127 goals in 17 games, at an average of 7.47 goals per game, the highest average ever achieved in VFL/AFL history. "