Well I knew there was one little bloke whose pants were on fire, but I didn't think it was Scottymagnifisaint wrote:but he's a liar!stinger wrote:correct.......i clearly remember scott saying so.....
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Of course he would of taken up contractr? Maybe he didnt want to play under Scott Watters.plugger66 wrote:stinger wrote:maybe..maybe it was a twelve months contract...in any event scott sad he was offered a contract but asked to be delisted anyway.....chook23 wrote:Think you are a bit confused about the 2 years.........sting!
Thats not correct at all. he was never offerred another contract. of course he would have taken it if he was. he was delisted because we didnt want him.
There was a one year contract on table, but not until after trade period. At that stage he was 50/50 be officially offered it. He thought being delisted was his best option, its probably backfired now that SW has been sacked.
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He was offered a one year however knocked it on the head because Melb had shown some interest may have thought he was a chance there until the Dees went after Tyson etc ,hope he gets picked up!
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This is so out of bounds its ridiculous..PADDLEPOP1001 wrote:He was offered a one year however knocked it on the head because Melb had shown some interest may have thought he was a chance there until the Dees went after Tyson etc ,hope he gets picked up!
He was told he was a 50/50 chance to be retained, there was no contract on the table, he wanted to go home, the Fairy land Dees option is a load of crud.
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He didn't want to go home, that's load of crap.slider wrote:This is so out of bounds its ridiculous..PADDLEPOP1001 wrote:He was offered a one year however knocked it on the head because Melb had shown some interest may have thought he was a chance there until the Dees went after Tyson etc ,hope he gets picked up!
He was told he was a 50/50 chance to be retained, there was no contract on the table, he wanted to go home, the Fairy land Dees option is a load of crud.
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He did want to go home your a load of crapstkildathunda wrote:He didn't want to go home, that's load of crap.slider wrote:This is so out of bounds its ridiculous..PADDLEPOP1001 wrote:He was offered a one year however knocked it on the head because Melb had shown some interest may have thought he was a chance there until the Dees went after Tyson etc ,hope he gets picked up!
He was told he was a 50/50 chance to be retained, there was no contract on the table, he wanted to go home, the Fairy land Dees option is a load of crud.
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Its good for a laugh, isn't it? Even in the unlikely event they know Tom personally he may have told them two different stories. Arguing like a couple of school girls trying to act like they are important.PADDLEPOP1001 wrote:I love how people on here know their stuff!
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correct.....i herd him say it....PADDLEPOP1001 wrote:Watters said he would be offered a one year contract however asked to move on!
anyway the point was that ledger made the wong call..imhfo...
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Old Mate wrote:Its good for a laugh, isn't it? Even in the unlikely event they know Tom personally he may have told them two different stories. Arguing like a couple of school girls trying to act like they are important.PADDLEPOP1001 wrote:I love how people on here know their stuff!
Then why do you continue doing it?
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Watters will coach in the WAFL next year and be reunited with Ledger and Cripps
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if you are talking about me...that's offensive......i was merely pointing out that ledger didn't get drafted and asking posters did they think he would be rookied...got noting to do with someone trying to be important.....i have plugger on ignore and didn't have a clue what he was posting until someone quoted him...and cared even less....Old Mate wrote:Its good for a laugh, isn't it? Even in the unlikely event they know Tom personally he may have told them two different stories. Arguing like a couple of school girls trying to act like they are important.PADDLEPOP1001 wrote:I love how people on here know their stuff!
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yes he does...was treated poorly by watters.....on a par with lyon's treatment of lynch, walsh and cripps...imho.....PADDLEPOP1001 wrote:Hopefully he gets picked up ,deserves another chance!
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ive been saying this for months now, before he was even delistedst_Trav_ofWA wrote:reckon he will be at the tigers ......
claremont tigers that is
got told i was dreaming and he was a certainiy to be re-signed. then he delisted himself and i was told he was a certainty to be picked up as a DFA. then it was the draft...
now its the rookie draft
if he was such a great prospect why is he training with a budget athletics club in WA? why isnt he on another training list?
he will be in the WAFL next year and his lack of tank will be obvious on large grounds with mids that can run
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With Ledger, Lynch, Walsh and Cripps, we'd be well on the way to a repeat of the '80s. You really know how to build a team!stinger wrote:yes he does...was treated poorly by watters.....on a par with lyon's treatment of lynch, walsh and cripps...imho.....PADDLEPOP1001 wrote:Hopefully he gets picked up ,deserves another chance!
Oh, I forgot to say IMHO, whatever that is.
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really? at what club?saintspremiers wrote:Watters will coach in the WAFL next year and be reunited with Ledger and Cripps
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I wish Tom all the luck in the world..but...there's a chance Scott and selection committee were right and a lot of pundits were wrong....and that he's not considered AFL standard.
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Bernard Shakey wrote:With Ledger, Lynch, Walsh and Cripps, we'd be well on the way to a repeat of the '80s. You really know how to build a team!stinger wrote:yes he does...was treated poorly by watters.....on a par with lyon's treatment of lynch, walsh and cripps...imho.....PADDLEPOP1001 wrote:Hopefully he gets picked up ,deserves another chance!
Oh, I forgot to say IMHO, whatever that is.
oh wobble boy...missed your posts so much.....
did you miss that ten goal game by lynch...who knows how the others will turn out....probably flowered by now as a result of poor development...
but hey..you know better don't you.... .everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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saint66au wrote:I wish Tom all the luck in the world..but...there's a chance Scott and selection committee were right and a lot of pundits were wrong....and that he's not considered AFL standard.
looked like he could play to me...and i saw his last two games live...unlike most on here.....
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stinger wrote:yes he does...was treated poorly by watters.....on a par with lyon's treatment of lynch, walsh and cripps...imho.....PADDLEPOP1001 wrote:Hopefully he gets picked up ,deserves another chance!
Cripps played nearly every game whan fit. Probably got more than he deserved. Walsh wasnt good enough and that has pretty much been proven. Lynch played as many games in Adelaide in his first season as he did with the Saints in his last season even though he was a year older. he just improved. it happens. Ledger was coached by 2 coaches, both who struggled to play him. Just another player who had to many faults.
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Brett Knowles used to get a bit of the footy as well. That didn't make him AFL standard though.stinger wrote:looked like he could play to me...and i saw his last two games live...unlike most on here.....saint66au wrote:I wish Tom all the luck in the world..but...there's a chance Scott and selection committee were right and a lot of pundits were wrong....and that he's not considered AFL standard.
You might be right and he might make it, but the fact that no other club has picked him up yet doesn't speak volumes in favour of your judgement.
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St Kilda took Tom Ledger No 58 in the 2010 draft.
However Gold Coast had been allowed to pluck 12 players of 17 years old the preceding year.
Gold Coast also had 3 Northern Territory Zone picks and 5 Queensland Zone picks ahead of the 2010 draft.
They all would have normally gone into the 2010 draft.
That places Ledger's effective draft position in the mid 70's.
This years draft was only compromised by 2 players of 17 years old being taken in last years mini draft.
This year less than 70 new players were taken in the draft.
So Ledger would need to have shown himself to have stepped up the pecking order quite a bit.
And his means of demonstating that was playing mostly at Sandringham when his AFL team could not win and only came 3rd bottom.
He may have thought himself a more worthy player and may have been, but no-one was watching him.
Certainly not recruiters from other clubs because he was already a St Kilda listed player.
His chances of being rookied by any club are poor.
Any future AFL career would probably lie in a standout season in a state league.
However Gold Coast had been allowed to pluck 12 players of 17 years old the preceding year.
Gold Coast also had 3 Northern Territory Zone picks and 5 Queensland Zone picks ahead of the 2010 draft.
They all would have normally gone into the 2010 draft.
That places Ledger's effective draft position in the mid 70's.
This years draft was only compromised by 2 players of 17 years old being taken in last years mini draft.
This year less than 70 new players were taken in the draft.
So Ledger would need to have shown himself to have stepped up the pecking order quite a bit.
And his means of demonstating that was playing mostly at Sandringham when his AFL team could not win and only came 3rd bottom.
He may have thought himself a more worthy player and may have been, but no-one was watching him.
Certainly not recruiters from other clubs because he was already a St Kilda listed player.
His chances of being rookied by any club are poor.
Any future AFL career would probably lie in a standout season in a state league.
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stkildathunda wrote:
Of course he would of taken up contractr? Maybe he didnt want to play under Scott Watters.
There was a one year contract on table, but not until after trade period. At that stage he was 50/50 be officially offered it. He thought being delisted was his best option, its probably backfired now that SW has been sacked.
In all fairness - that doesn't sound like a contract on the table. More like a contract in the fireplace, with a big chance of being incinerated before being able to sign it.
Ledger did the right thing. Odds were in favour of being delisted by us if a trade couldn't be made. Gives himself the best chance and a clear path to a new club.