Surely not the next best coach

[WinnersOnly]

Kingsley....

Also untried, and I think we need a proven in our situation? We can't gamble again....

Has there been many situations where a low profile coach has succeeded from coming from within th organisation ...... Knights, Brittian were mistakes?
Longmire I think was transitioned well?

Kingsley may be an option at least he will know what not to do ! He has worked under both RL & SW and seen there positives and down falls. I don't know much about the guy but if the club think he is ready then we have to back him in ! On the counter side I think Choco would have a far greater marketing appeal for the club !

[Burkey 1]

Which paper said Williams wants $600+,.can anyone provide a link please.

[spert]

I reckon a known quantity is a better marketing move, and heaven knows we need to get some positive spin about St K happening..and quick!

[saintsRrising]

Maybe they are sussing him out to be a snr assistant to Kingsley?

Not possible.

He is contracted as an assistant for next year, and would not be let go for only another assistant role.

[saintsRrising]

Which paper said Williams wants $600+,.can anyone provide a link please.

Well Watters was on $400K plus as a newbie coach, and so Williams would quite reasonably expect to be on more than Watters.

In addition one could add in that due to our instability at present that he would want and expect more than the minimum.

[MC Gusto]

Mongrel.

And form. He's a premiership coach. He's a bit of a nutter. He has mongrel

[BigMart]

How will he know what 'not to do'?

He's ever been a senior coach....

SW after winning two WAFL premierships and being Ass Coach of an AFL premiership.... One would think he knew 'what to do'

You never know how someone will respond to th pressure of the situation

[bigcarl]

Kingsley presents well, then again so did Watters. Doesn't mean he'd make it as a senior coach, but nor does it rule him out.

I'm with Big Mart on this. It's a gamble we can't afford and I hope we go with a known quantity in Choco.

But I don't know how dire our finances are

[older saint]

Williams presents the first opportunity for the StKilda football club to recruit a premiership coach since I can remember( not sure if Jezza was captain coach in 1979?) if not ever!

That means $600+ is what it costs so be it.

[Teflon]

No to Kingsley

Disaster if true

[magnifisaint]

Why aren't we talking to Worsforld? Surely he's the best available coach!

Left the Eagles to patch up his marriage woes

[magnifisaint]

About time the AFL chipped in to help us out. Don't know why Melbourne, Bulldogs and Nth Melbourne should get handouts and not us.

[Gurgman]

Does it evolve that much? Can people not evolve with it.....

Parkin 1978, 1995
Jeans 1966, 1989
Malthouse 1992, 2010
Matthews 1990, 2004
Kennedy coached 60's then mid 80's
Barassi 60's and mid 90s
Hird was out of the game with no experience
Roos 2005.... Out 2011 Melbourne 2014
Blight had a gap 94-97


Choco has been involved with the game every year since 2010, his last season as coach....

Clubs wanted those big names from the past. i don't think williams is in their class. not many clubs have been knocking on choco williams door over the last few years to become number 1 coach

Well how about you tell us why he wont be any good at our club , except for OLD SCHOOL

[bigcarl]

About time the AFL chipped in to help us out. Don't know why Melbourne, Bulldogs and Nth Melbourne should get handouts and not us.

It's because we've been recently successful and it doesn't suit Demetriou's soviet agenda

[saintjunction]

About time the AFL chipped in to help us out. Don't know why Melbourne, Bulldogs and Nth Melbourne should get handouts and not us.

It's because we've been recently successful and it doesn't suit Demetriou's soviet agenda

There is no conspiracy to from the AFL to keep us down. We are being dealt a decent hand with respect to so called "handouts" already.



http://www.worldofwookie.com/aflbusiness/?page_id=1411

[plugger66]

About time the AFL chipped in to help us out. Don't know why Melbourne, Bulldogs and Nth Melbourne should get handouts and not us.

It's because we've been recently successful and it doesn't suit Demetriou's soviet agenda

Myth.

[bigcarl]

There is no conspiracy to from the AFL to keep us down. We are being dealt a decent hand with respect to so called "handouts" already.

It seems to me that Melbourne has been virtually guaranteed on-field success and financial stability, underwritten by the AFL. We have no such guarantee.

And don't get me started on the Swans and Buddy Franklin.

Or the joke of a fixture.

[plugger66]

There is no conspiracy to from the AFL to keep us down. We are being dealt a decent hand with respect to so called "handouts" already.

It seems to me that Melbourne has been virtually guaranteed on-field success and financial stability, underwritten by the AFL. We have no such guarantee.

And don't get me started on the Swans and Buddy Franklin.

Or the joke of a fixture.

That table suggests you are wrong about melbourne. As for the fixture im still unsure how you fix 22 games into 18 sides and make it fair. Seems ok to me when we are a good side.

[bigcarl]

That table suggests you are wrong about melbourne. As for the fixture im still unsure how you fix 22 games into 18 sides and make it fair. Seems ok to me when we are a good side.

Just to keep it on topic, do you reckon the fat dictator will underwrite us getting a proper coach like Williams. As they have done with Roos/Melbourne?

Or will we just have to get who we can afford?

[jamesmc]

If you're going to make a statement like "surely not the next best coach" then surely you must be an expert on the matter. Please regale the forum of your insight and list of replacements in preference with attributes.

....or surely you are kidding

Of course i'm not the expert as i assume you aren't. Hoping the coaching committee can come up with a few more ideas than just williams.

[plugger66]

That table suggests you are wrong about melbourne. As for the fixture im still unsure how you fix 22 games into 18 sides and make it fair. Seems ok to me when we are a good side.

Just to keep it on topic, do you reckon the fat dictator will underwrite us getting a proper coach like Williams. As they have done with Roos/Melbourne?

Or will we just have to get who we can afford?

No idea but AFL didnt underwrite melbourne so i dont see why he would underwrite us. Also im sure i read on here many times the AFL only look after the big clubs but when they do look apparently look after the smaller clubs there is the what about us call. Dont worry if we need it they will also look after us as well.

[PJ]

If you're going to make a statement like "surely not the next best coach" then surely you must be an expert on the matter. Please regale the forum of your insight and list of replacements in preference with attributes.

....or surely you are kidding

Of course i'm not the expert as i assume you aren't. Hoping the coaching committee can come up with a few more ideas than just williams.

Why would you start a thread assuming they aren't?

[jamesmc]

If you're going to make a statement like "surely not the next best coach" then surely you must be an expert on the matter. Please regale the forum of your insight and list of replacements in preference with attributes.

....or surely you are kidding

Of course i'm not the expert as i assume you aren't. Hoping the coaching committee can come up with a few more ideas than just williams.

Why would you start a thread assuming they aren't?

i didn't

[PJ]

Jamesmc your initial post implies he is not a good coach - I don't think you have any knowledge one way or the other (neither do I). You also have no understanding of what is going on in the process so why assume the people in charge aren't making the right choices or interviewing the right people.

[dragit]

There is no conspiracy to from the AFL to keep us down. We are being dealt a decent hand with respect to so called "handouts" already.



http://www.worldofwookie.com/aflbusiness/?page_id=1411

A much more interesting table would be total profit/loss from scheduled home games...

The above figure supposedly includes "amounts for ground buyout agreements".

The biggest concern for all poor Etihad clubs is shelling out for nearly every home game instead of making money. This stadium deal is 100% the AFL's doing.

Melbourne don't even face this obstacle yet still need millions to keep afloat.