De Listings Today

[Devilhead]

Our midfield was the embarrasment - not much Ferguson could do

A spoil would have been nice

You've obviously plared AFL footy

[Hurricane]

Feel bad for Jackson but after 3 years and bringing in Delaney and Bruce the writing was on the wall. Playing key defense is never easy especially when you're coping a pasting and even worse if that's on debut and then getting hurt didn't do him any favors either.

I'd still have given him maybe another year and cut TDL or Milera but that obviously wasn't on the cards. Best of luck to him wherever he ends up

BANG BANG

[Jimmy O'Dea]

Supposedly we can have over the required amount until draft, then we must make changes....I think?

So if we do get lucky and Boyd slips to our first pick, then we are able to de-list Riewoldt as he'll be surplus?

In all seriousness, if we get Billings who i touted as a high half forward/future mid, surely TDL would go, as that forward flank is the only possie he can slightly play...

Billings nowhere near big or strong enough yet to paly AFL footy. Will play one maybe two games tops next year.

[mad saint guy]

Watters gone surely means his buddy TDL and possibly Maister are out the door as well. Maybe even Milera

[paddy]

If curren isn't upgraded, i would not blame him for walking...

unless the club is able to upgrade him in while saad is on suspension? i know its not LTI but maybe there is scope for this in the rules?

[Wayne42]

If curren isn't upgraded, i would not blame him for walking...

unless the club is able to upgrade him in while saad is on suspension? i know its not LTI but maybe there is scope for this in the rules?

Curren has been upgraded

AFL list changes after first list lodgement deadline

ST KILDA FOOTBALL CLUB
Additions
Josh Bruce, Traded from St Kilda
Tom Curren, Promoted Rookie
Luke Delaney, Traded from North Melbourne
Billy Longer, Traded from Brisbane Lions
Shane Savage, Traded from Hawthorn
Deletions
Jason Blake, Retired
Nick Dal Santo, Free Agent to North Melbourne
Justin Koschitzke, Retired
Tom Ledger, Delisted
Jay Lever, Delisted
Ben McEvoy, Traded to Hawthorn
Stephen Milne, Retired


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/a ... z2jW2tIpQx

[plugger66]

If curren isn't upgraded, i would not blame him for walking...

unless the club is able to upgrade him in while saad is on suspension? i know its not LTI but maybe there is scope for this in the rules?

He has been upgraded. Cant do anything until the draft though.

[borderbarry]

For our last spot, it looks like the club is waiting to see what happens to Saad.

[southernsaint]

So we still need to delist at least one more. Wonder if the mav weller link to the saints was the list management team or a watters thing?

[Wayne42]

For our last spot, it looks like the club is waiting to see what happens to Saad.

Reading the list i posted above, that's 7 off and 5 on, which leaves us with 2 spots to fill BUT we have 3 picks in the top 20 of the upcoming draft.

Did we have a full list to start with, can we still create an extra list vacancy prior to the draft if we need it ?

[Johnny Favier]

I don't understand why people were concerned about Curren anyway, as I'm pretty sure he signed a two year contract back in September didn't he?

[southernsaint]

Wouldnt mind if the saints signed miles as a free agent then paid out and delisted TDL

[plugger66]

Wouldnt mind if the saints signed miles as a free agent then paid out and delisted TDL

Who is Miles?

[southernsaint]

Young delisted midfielder from GWS. Its also been reported in the adelaide advertiser that milera wants to go back home.

[magnifisaint]

So we still need to delist at least one more. Wonder if the mav weller link to the saints was the list management team or a watters thing?

I don't think Watters had any say

[gringo]

Watters apparently took control of match selection but I believe the list management is Pelchen and Bains. Jackson, Curren, Shenton and Ledger could all be fairly pissed off at their handling as we had plenty of LTI upgrades available and Jackson and Shents got about a quarter before their papers were stamped. Why upgrade them at all if that was it. He must have really thought he was able to sum up a player in a few minutes.

[ShanghaiSaint]

Somebody had to go and unfortunately, Jackson was just not up to it, especially with our new "ins." His match against North was an embarrassment, but not all his fault. AFL is a tough gig these days.

i think it was a little rough for Watters to throw him in the deep end but that's how it goes sometimes..

[Wayne42]

Somebody had to go and unfortunately, Jackson was just not up to it, especially with our new "ins." His match against North was an embarrassment, but not all his fault. AFL is a tough gig these days.

i think it was a little rough for Watters to throw him in the deep end but that's how it goes sometimes..

he can tell his grandkids he played one game of AFL, which is one more than a fair chunk of the population

[SMS]

ferguson?? He was doing awesome!!

bad decision. Will go on and be a player you watch.

[plugger66]

ferguson?? He was doing awesome!!

bad decision. Will go on and be a player you watch.

I like Ferg but he will never play AFL again.

[8856brother]

ferguson?? He was doing awesome!!

bad decision. Will go on and be a player you watch.

Sorry but he's not AFL standard. Wish he was. Him and Lever would make good bookends in the Southern League.

[stinger]

Somebody had to go and unfortunately, Jackson was just not up to it, especially with our new "ins." His match against North was an embarrassment, but not all his fault. AFL is a tough gig these days.

i think it was a little rough for Watters to throw him in the deep end but that's how it goes sometimes..

he can tell his grandkids he played one game of AFL, which is one more than a fair chunk of the population

my dad only got to play three reseve games with the dees before he did his knee.....

[ace]

Jackson Ferguson was a rookie type B being a former NSW scholarship player.
If the rules haven't changed recently then a rookie is allowed a maximum 3 years on the rookie list without facing the National Draft.
The only way St Kilda could retain Ferguson would be to move him to the senior list (not a temporary promotion as occurred during this year).

He has now been delisted from the rookie list, he can nominate for the National Draft and Rookie drafts.
If not taken by another club he can still be rookied again by St Kilda as a rookie type A.
That is if the club preferes him to adding someone new to the rookie list.

At present there are 3 slots available on the senior list for draft picks 3, 18 & 19 but I thought Thomas Curren was also a third year rookie type A in need of a move to the senior list.
Promoting Curren would require another delisting and then a pre season draft pick would require another.

With Watters gone his favourite Trent Dennis-Lane will be looking for more neck armour than one more year left on his contract.
Older players with only a few years left in them like Schneider and Jones will be looking for extra armour as well because of the club's rebuild policy.
They may still be in the best 22 but would be clogging postions that could be used to develop younger players.

[Old Mate]

Saad, Milera and TDL the guys likely to be delisted for one reason or another.

[Wayne42]

List Lodgement Number 2 is on November 14th, dead line = 2.00pm.

That one could be very interesting, at least one and possibly 2 current players will need to be cut, especially if Jolly is still being considered.