Sack Peter Summers!
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Sack Peter Summers!
What a BS performance that presser was!!! But it's worse than that.
Yes, we need to move on, yes we need to highlight the many positives, yes we need to highlight that the club is actually still going forward..., but, if you gloss over and fail to learn from the mistakes of history...
When Ro$$y was under pressure early on Right-said-Greg backed him... and did actually back him.
Seems that just three weeks ago our new boy assured Cuddles that he was wanted as our long-term coach. See a key difference? What has changed?
Peter Summers must come clean!
If there is a good reason for breaking his assurance and ousting Cuddles... tell us!
Don't go hiding behind a confidentiality clause that's no doubt been inserted in Cuddle's pay-put contract!
Coward!!!!
Unless Peter Summers can provide us with valid reasons for his not fulfilling his undertaking to Cuddles, then how the hell can we expect anyone going forward to now trust our club?
Can't Peter Summers see the on-going damage he doing to our club??? Fix it now Peter!!!
Peter, you must explain. Put up... or get out!!!!
Yes, we need to move on, yes we need to highlight the many positives, yes we need to highlight that the club is actually still going forward..., but, if you gloss over and fail to learn from the mistakes of history...
When Ro$$y was under pressure early on Right-said-Greg backed him... and did actually back him.
Seems that just three weeks ago our new boy assured Cuddles that he was wanted as our long-term coach. See a key difference? What has changed?
Peter Summers must come clean!
If there is a good reason for breaking his assurance and ousting Cuddles... tell us!
Don't go hiding behind a confidentiality clause that's no doubt been inserted in Cuddle's pay-put contract!
Coward!!!!
Unless Peter Summers can provide us with valid reasons for his not fulfilling his undertaking to Cuddles, then how the hell can we expect anyone going forward to now trust our club?
Can't Peter Summers see the on-going damage he doing to our club??? Fix it now Peter!!!
Peter, you must explain. Put up... or get out!!!!
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Re: Sack Peter Summers!
Grow up mate, it would be completely unprofessional to outline all of Watters failings to the public…
Airing his dirty laundry would definitely harm his chances of getting another gig, which I'm sure the club would like to see him do.
Watters failed the test of a full review… it wasn't Pelchen's doing, it wasn't the players causing mutiny… the board running the club decided he was not up to the task.
Airing his dirty laundry would definitely harm his chances of getting another gig, which I'm sure the club would like to see him do.
Watters failed the test of a full review… it wasn't Pelchen's doing, it wasn't the players causing mutiny… the board running the club decided he was not up to the task.
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Re: Sack Peter Summers!
Well said dragit!dragit wrote:Grow up mate, it would be completely unprofessional to outline all of Watters failings to the public…
Airing his dirty laundry would definitely harm his chances of getting another gig, which I'm sure the club would like to see him do.
Watters failed the test of a full review… it wasn't Pelchen's doing, it wasn't the players causing mutiny… the board running the club decided he was not up to the task.
Actually thought Peter was very professional ,made sense.
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Well said.dragit wrote:Grow up mate, it would be completely unprofessional to outline all of Watters failings to the public…
Airing his dirty laundry would definitely harm his chances of getting another gig, which I'm sure the club would like to see him do.
Watters failed the test of a full review… it wasn't Pelchen's doing, it wasn't the players causing mutiny… the board running the club decided he was not up to the task.
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I thought he came across as soft
Say it as it was and is? Why was he sacked!!! This just adds fuel to the rumour that there was DISARRAY!!!!!
Sugar coating crap is soft imo
Say it as it was and is? Why was he sacked!!! This just adds fuel to the rumour that there was DISARRAY!!!!!
Sugar coating crap is soft imo
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Yes Peter, air the dirty laundry, make it public and of course subject the club to a massive law suit over defamation of character.
Yes that will help the club out.
Yes that will help the club out.
Except for the sanity nothing much has been lost.
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Also very well said.3rd generation saint wrote:Yes Peter, air the dirty laundry, make it public and of course subject the club to a massive law suit over defamation of character.
Yes that will help the club out.
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Its a nice night for a beer or 10, some of the threads on here are the result of it
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Well (hic!) shaid, (burp! Hic!) shaintshraush!! (hic!)
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Thought some whiskey would be more style Jiggster.thejiggingsaint wrote:Well (hic!) shaid, (burp! Hic!) shaintshraush!! (hic!)
Except for the sanity nothing much has been lost.
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Defamation for outlying to the club members the reasons for he coaches dismissal....
Defamation would be if he lied about the issues, surely SW was sacked for substantial reasons?!
Defamation would be if he lied about the issues, surely SW was sacked for substantial reasons?!
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Let's get ridiculous!Harvey To Hayes wrote:Ridiculous.
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Exactly!BigMart wrote:Defamation for outlying to the club members the reasons for he coaches dismissal....
Defamation would be if he lied about the issues, surely SW was sacked for substantial reasons?!
Hey everyone else who has posted in this thread, please re-read my post.
There's no call for airing dirty linen.
That is not the issue! Surely valid reasons can be given for Summers reneging on his assurance to Cuddles, without going overboard???
So far, we have the president of the mighty 141 year old St Kilda Football Club assuring Cuddles that he's wanted long term as our coach, then turning around and sacking him! (Compare and contrast to Rightaway re Ro$$y.)
The sacking may well have been the correct move. (I don't have the information to know, to make a reasonable assessment.) However, Summers insulted us with that presser for the mushroom-crowd. His name, his word, his honour is on the line.
He must explain why he broke his assurance to Cuddles. If he can't justify doing such a thing...,
then no one will be able to trust him,
and by extension, no one will be able to trust any undertaking made to them by the club.
That would be untenable for our club.
Yes, it is that serious! Think about it for a minute guys n gals... this is the bigger picture that people are currently overlooking.
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Re: Sack Peter Summers!
Get a grip.
Summers is a major upgrade on Mr RIGHT!
They're still a bunch of incompetents..
btw, kinda f***** my day up. Had to work back late.
Summers is a major upgrade on Mr RIGHT!
They're still a bunch of incompetents..
btw, kinda f***** my day up. Had to work back late.
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Barney Gumble would be an upgrade on the ghost.SaintPav wrote:Get a grip.
Summers is a major upgrade on Mr RIGHT!
They're still a bunch of incompetents..
btw, kinda f***** my day up. Had to work back late.
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Disappointed in that effort - had a chance, no needed to be strong and blew it
Even had he addressed the elephant in the room without the detail by stating the club has a different direction to where Scott was going that would've been something (leave the gory details out) but we appear to have not even addressed the sacking which was a mistake.
Even had he addressed the elephant in the room without the detail by stating the club has a different direction to where Scott was going that would've been something (leave the gory details out) but we appear to have not even addressed the sacking which was a mistake.
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You honestly have no idea do you - you consistently go off half baked. You simply cannot publicly air all the reasons why Scott was sacked, it is common and normal business practice. Go through every AFL coach who has been sacked and check if the Club President has unloaded - I suspect it would be very rare.BigMart wrote:I thought he came across as soft
Say it as it was and is? Why was he sacked!!! This just adds fuel to the rumour that there was DISARRAY!!!!!
Sugar coating crap is soft imo
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Teflon wrote:Disappointed in that effort - had a chance, no needed to be strong and blew it
Even had he addressed the elephant in the room without the detail by stating the club has a different direction to where Scott was going that would've been something (leave the gory details out) but we appear to have not even addressed the sacking which was a mistake.
How bad would we have looked if Summers had slagged him. It's not any different to what politicians do or what happens day in day out in business.
It's just the way of the world, weak that it is.
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dragit wrote:Grow up mate, it would be completely unprofessional to outline all of Watters failings to the public…
Airing his dirty laundry would definitely harm his chances of getting another gig, which I'm sure the club would like to see him do.
Watters failed the test of a full review… it wasn't Pelchen's doing, it wasn't the players causing mutiny… the board running the club decided he was not up to the task.
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On top of it all, it wouldn't be good for the club to be sued for breaking a confidentiality clause. Wrongful dismissal, constructive dismissal etc etc. Would definitely send us under. No way can they say anything.
As much as we would like to know....
But it's a fair bet that after his review he was told to never again do things off his own bat. Going on SEN when told not to, and during a board meeting, will have you sacked every day of the week. Here's your hat, what's your hurry!
As much as we would like to know....
But it's a fair bet that after his review he was told to never again do things off his own bat. Going on SEN when told not to, and during a board meeting, will have you sacked every day of the week. Here's your hat, what's your hurry!
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There's a story going around from Mark Fine in regards to Saady playing in Brisbane. I'm sure most have seen it by now.
Is this the sort of thing people want Summer to blab on about at the presser?
Sure we all wanna know the goss, but sometimes it best not to say too much at all. Even if it does make you look a little foolish and upsets a few people.
Is this the sort of thing people want Summer to blab on about at the presser?
Sure we all wanna know the goss, but sometimes it best not to say too much at all. Even if it does make you look a little foolish and upsets a few people.
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Sounds like with the bizarre Saad incident Watters lost the confidence of Nettlefold and the Board.
His comments at the B&F clearly upset a few players.
The Board retaliated by given Pelchen more power and instigating the review.
The players retaliated by hiring the dwarves?
If you lose the players and the board you are GORN - ask Stan Alves.
His comments at the B&F clearly upset a few players.
The Board retaliated by given Pelchen more power and instigating the review.
The players retaliated by hiring the dwarves?
If you lose the players and the board you are GORN - ask Stan Alves.
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I remember at the time thinking it was a bizarre selection, Saad simply had not earned a place in the team on merit at the time, aside from the ASADA matter.