Scott Watters sacked: Official SS reaction thread

[8856brother]

A few panic merchants on here today.
In Summers I Trust.

Wonder why.

[saintly]

I'd say Scott did just try and make himself unsackable. Unauthorised interview. Infact they said they requested him not to.

Where did you hear that from?

They just said it on SEN

Can't a coach come on radio whenever they like?

[Saintmatt]

Choco will be coach

Yep - me thinks so too.

Eskanders Betstar already have a market up - Williams is $1.50 favourite with Harvey @ $5.50.

Bookies rarely get closed field type events wrong...

[SaintPav]

Choco will be coach

good.

Good move if true.

And jaxons, once again you come up with the truth.

Nothing you have written this of season has been false.

Love your work.

I think choco has a screw loose so may suit the saints, unfortunately.

Any good realtionship is a two way street.

[saint75]

Not overly upset or surprised. Surely any one listening or reading the media in the last couple of months could not be surprised by this? Unfortunately, once Caro started writing about I knew he was in trouble and if he did manage to hang on, it would just be by the skin of his teeth.

I would back it in that they have most likely a replacement already in the wings.

Interesting that it has been confirmed by SEN that he went on the radio this morning off his own back. Obviously knew what was coming and was trying to call the clubs bluff. Instead of keeping them quiet, he forced their hand and he was sacked. Shows great leadership by the new president and board IMHO. Won't be held to ransom.

Bit sick of hearing that the seniors players are precious and need to be soothed and pampered. Perhaps he is just not cut out to be a coach. Seems it wasn't just the senior players that were not playing well under him, neither were the junior players. I think it is unfair that the reputation of the likes of Roo and Lenny are having their image tarnished without any proof. Guys of the highest calibre and whom have remained loyal to our club despite numerous substantial financial offers and incentives that have been thrown their way to leave throughout their careers. I think they deserve more respect than that.

[SainterK]

Not overly upset or surprised. Surely any one listening or reading the media in the last couple of months could not be surprised by this? Unfortunately, once Caro started writing about I knew he was in trouble and if he did manage to hang on, it would just be by the skin of his teeth.

I would back it in that they have most likely a replacement already in the wings.

Interesting that it has been confirmed by SEN that he went on the radio this morning off his own back. Obviously knew what was coming and was trying to call the clubs bluff. Instead of keeping them quiet, he forced their hand and he was sacked. Shows great leadership by the new president and board IMHO. Won't be held to ransom.

Bit sick of hearing that the seniors players are precious and need to be soothed and pampered. Perhaps he is just not cut out to be a coach. Seems it wasn't just the senior players that were not playing well under him, neither were the junior players. I think it is unfair that the reputation of the likes of Roo and Lenny are having their image tarnished without any proof. Guys of the highest calibre and whom have remained loyal to our club despite numerous substantial financial offers and incentives that have been thrown their way to leave throughout their careers. I think they deserve more respect than that.

Hiring dwarves to mock the coach?

Even if Scott wasn't the guy, I reckon he deserved more respect than that.

[kalsaint]

In a bizarre way, good timing

Imagine if was pre trade period, no one would want to come ?

Never boring

I totally disagree with this.

I think the reverse is true. If I was a new kid wanting to join this club and was asking people about my prospects I think I would be hearing the following:

1 Go elsewhere son - no Leadership a this place

2 No openness in conversations that you can believe here "son"

3 Its the senior players who seem to be running the joint here.

4 The Club leaders outside of the footy department that seem to be out of line at this joint (always have been). This causes instability in the playing group and rumour mongering from th media. Not much chop here when compared to other clubs strengths.

5 The club strategy is need in a real repair and this needs to include te culture of this place. Don't waste your time with them Kiddo as they have had many years to resolve this and haven't yet.

6 Club success breeds from game attendance and requires quality corporate sponsorship. With this culture you would be better off elsewhere.

7 We aren't Hawthorn and don't have the club culture to replicate what they did.

8 Sustained effort at Corporate and footy departments requires good culture, good strategy and clear management. That seems to be missing here son.

9 Even successful coaches here have always been short term operators (believe it or not, 5 year is not a long tenure for most clubs). Generally those providing team development, we cant afford over the long term. What you see now will return again in 4-5 yeas time because nothing really changes here.

10 Look we are about to appoint Chocko and this will solve everything!!!!?? The young bloke replies; didn't he have problems too with Port and GWS management? Smart fellow, dont bother to help here, you wont be respected for it, you will be better off elsewhere son as you just wont fit in here.

[HitTheBoundary]

Just been saying on SEN that to speak to anyone at any club (even the Senior coach) you have to get club permission.
SEN asked to interview Watters and was denied by the club.
Watters then contacted SEN and said no problem the club has cleared him to talk, so they had him on.
It would appear that it WAS NOT okay with the club and was directly in opposition to their instructions, so was seemingly the last straw.

[Junction Oval]

The Saints statement must be "an honest one," as they can no longer deny the turmoil that has occurred - and that they have denied all along.

It's the Board's chance to clear the decks once and for all to see! If they have a new coach to name, then this has been in the planning for a while and the SW SEN interview was the cruncher that they could use to cut him loose.

[saint75]

A few panic merchants on here today.
In Summers I Trust.

Wonder why.

Because he has shown so far in his short leadership that he is not afraid to make the hard calls or to present himself to the media when required. So far, he has my full support and has 5 out of 5 stars!!

[clarky449]

A caller who seemed to have "inside info" Advised the players hired dwarves due to Watters height and burnt him for obvious reason.. Now this is no way true or what not, in fact I would certainly hope its not true, because that is just disrespectful..

[joffaboy]

The Saints statement must be "an honest one," as they can no longer deny the turmoil that has occurred - and that they have denied all along.

It's the Board's chance to clear the decks once and for all to see! If they have a new coach to name, then this has been in the planning for a while and the SW SEN interview was the cruncher that they could use to cut him loose.

This sounds plausible.

[MC Gusto]

I just got told Mark Williams is going to take over

[saint75]

Was tossing up whether to renew my membership for this year. Was sitting 50/50 as to be honest, I have had a gut full of football this year (and not just because of St Kilda - the whole Essendon saga played a large role).

After the exceptional trade period for us so far, and the news from today, my membership has been paid up this afternoon for the whole family. Go Saints!!

[8856brother]

A few panic merchants on here today.
In Summers I Trust.

Wonder why.

Because he has shown so far in his short leadership that he is not afraid to make the hard calls or to present himself to the media when required. So far, he has my full support and has 5 out of 5 stars!!

Was commenting on the panic. Not El Pres.

[Selhurst Saint]

I am f'n disgusted. I wish my 37 year membership hadn't just rolled over.

[gringo]

I just got told Mark Williams is going to take over

The fact he was interviewed and has history with Pelchen says it's no mystery that he would be the front runner and with the failure of the last untested coach you would think he'd be miles ahead.

[gringo]

A caller who seemed to have "inside info" Advised the players hired dwarves due to Watters height and burnt him for obvious reason.. Now this is no way true or what not, in fact I would certainly hope its not true, because that is just disrespectful..

That there would be Jaxons if I had to guess. He's made that claim before.

[clarky449]

A caller who seemed to have "inside info" Advised the players hired dwarves due to Watters height and burnt him for obvious reason.. Now this is no way true or what not, in fact I would certainly hope its not true, because that is just disrespectful..

That there would be Jaxons if I had to guess. He's made that claim before.

Really? I didn't know Jaxons said that? Do you know what thread.

[MC Gusto]

wanted choco when we made the selection for lyon. glad we fgot lyon as obviously he was and still is a gun. wanted choco when we lost lyon. we got watters. maybe now we can just get him...fack all these establishment of committees and interview processes etc that is waht landed us watters and the dees neeld. clearly does not work. when we got lyon we had put all these other blokes through the ringer and were aboput to go with someone until wallsy flew lyon in and we made a decision there and then. same should have been done with hinkley. don't fack it up now get choco he has the mongrel we need.

this is good for the club albeit the timing is very poor....still the amount of times watters was just staring blankly in the coaches box and was well and truly out coached tells me that although he may be a reasonable 'man-manager' he aint a coaches a-hole.

[lefty]

This club is ridiculous.

That Pelchan bloke clearly didn't get along well with Hawthorn hence why he left.
Now we've got the same problem.

Imo, there was nothing wrong with Watters at all.

I'll reconsider buying 3x memberships, this is a joke.

Get farken Harvey in, hopefully we don't eat our own. We need some stability.
I cbf with Choco....

[mad saint guy]

After the initial shock, I have no problem with sacking Watters providing we have a suitable replacement lined up (hopefully WIlliams).

He was a poor match day coach, gave too many jobs to mates, had a habit of telling blatant lies in the media and I don't believe that the players bought into his philosophies. I think he's quite a good salesman but has little substance.

Probably smart to wait until after trade period to sack him - unlikely Longer and Bruce would have insisted on coming to St Kilda if we didn't have a coach at the time.

[MC Gusto]

nobody could work with watters. thats why so many of his staff have left him

[Richter]

Mores to the point, who in holy f@@k allowed him on SEN this morning to say all is well?

WTF???????

Can only imagine he picked up the phone himself. Perhaps doing that was the last straw? Or perhaps SW saw the writing on the wall and decide to go down all guns blazing?!?

[dragit]

A caller who seemed to have "inside info" Advised the players hired dwarves due to Watters height and burnt him for obvious reason.. Now this is no way true or what not, in fact I would certainly hope its not true, because that is just disrespectful..

That there would be Jaxons if I had to guess. He's made that claim before.

I have heard first hand that this isn't true.

Do you really think the 'senior group' premeditated the burning of an entertainer on Mad Monday? ken spare me.