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What Are Picks 24 & 25 Worth

Post: # 1406769Post ace »

We presently have picks in the National draft
3
18
24
25
41
59
77
95

The club has been making loud noises through the press that they want 3 picks in the top 20.
There are only three ways to get the 3 picks in the top 20.
1 Trade a player or players for a top 20 pick.
2 Trade a player or players and pick or picks for a top 20 pick.
3 Trade at least 2 picks for a top 20 pick.

Without including trading players out, that means in practice trading picks 24 and 25 for a top 20 pick.

What single pick is a fair trade for both picks 24 and 25 combined.


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Re: What Are Picks 24 & 25 Worth

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ace wrote:We presently have picks in the National draft
3
18
24
25
41
59
77
95

The club has been making loud noises through the press that they want 3 picks in the top 20.
There are only three ways to get the 3 picks in the top 20.
1 Trade a player or players for a top 20 pick.
2 Trade a player or players and pick or picks for a top 20 pick.
3 Trade at least 2 picks for a top 20 pick.

Without including trading players out, that means in practice trading picks 24 and 25 for a top 20 pick.

What single pick is a fair trade for both picks 24 and 25 combined.

We are getting pick 19 off the Hawks for pick 24 so we dont have to do anything.


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Re: What Are Picks 24 & 25 Worth

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plugger66 wrote:
ace wrote:We presently have picks in the National draft
3
18
24
25
41
59
77
95

The club has been making loud noises through the press that they want 3 picks in the top 20.
There are only three ways to get the 3 picks in the top 20.
1 Trade a player or players for a top 20 pick.
2 Trade a player or players and pick or picks for a top 20 pick.
3 Trade at least 2 picks for a top 20 pick.

Without including trading players out, that means in practice trading picks 24 and 25 for a top 20 pick.

What single pick is a fair trade for both picks 24 and 25 combined.

We are getting pick 19 off the Hawks for pick 24 so we dont have to do anything.
Hawthorn have given us what turns out to be pick 18 and Shane Savage for Ben McEvoy.
That gives us 2 picks in the top 20.

Why are they giving us their Buddy Franklin compensation pick 19 for or pick 24.
Who are we including or which other pick are we including.


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Re: What Are Picks 24 & 25 Worth

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ace wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
ace wrote:We presently have picks in the National draft
3
18
24
25
41
59
77
95

The club has been making loud noises through the press that they want 3 picks in the top 20.
There are only three ways to get the 3 picks in the top 20.
1 Trade a player or players for a top 20 pick.
2 Trade a player or players and pick or picks for a top 20 pick.
3 Trade at least 2 picks for a top 20 pick.

Without including trading players out, that means in practice trading picks 24 and 25 for a top 20 pick.

What single pick is a fair trade for both picks 24 and 25 combined.

We are getting pick 19 off the Hawks for pick 24 so we dont have to do anything.
Hawthorn have given us what turns out to be pick 18 and Shane Savage for Ben McEvoy.
That gives us 2 picks in the top 20.

Why are they giving us their Buddy Franklin compensation pick 19 for or pick 24.
Who are we including or which other pick are we including.

A higher pick which i cant remember that we would use. It was another part of the deal.


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Re: What Are Picks 24 & 25 Worth

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59 supposedly.


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If we still had Crippa I'd say Mitch Brown :wink:


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By the sounds of things we will be parting with 24 or 25 to get Longer and 77 to get Delaney. No word on what Bruce will cost

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Re: What Are Picks 24 & 25 Worth

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Hurricane wrote:By the sounds of things we will be parting with 24 or 25 to get Longer and 77 to get Delaney. No word on what Bruce will cost

BANG BANG
I would've thought 24 is already tied up in our deal with Hawks to get pick 19.


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St Ick wrote:
Hurricane wrote:By the sounds of things we will be parting with 24 or 25 to get Longer and 77 to get Delaney. No word on what Bruce will cost

BANG BANG
I would've thought 24 is already tied up in our deal with Hawks to get pick 19.

Yep its gone.


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Hurricane wrote:By the sounds of things we will be parting with 24 or 25 to get Longer and 77 to get Delaney. No word on what Bruce will cost

BANG BANG
If you read this article, we have offered pick 41 for Bruce. GWS want more, but we're not baulking!

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/s ... 6743039128


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Re: What Are Picks 24 & 25 Worth

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Yep pick 19 is ours. We will need to give up another pick or one of our picks in the teens for longer as brissy rightly will not accept pick 25 for longer. The other option is a 3 way trade


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Re: What Are Picks 24 & 25 Worth

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Jiminy Wagga wrote:Yep pick 19 is ours. We will need to give up another pick or one of our picks in the teens for longer as brissy rightly will not accept pick 25 for longer. The other option is a 3 way trade
Other option is PSD


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Re: What Are Picks 24 & 25 Worth

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Regarding the pick 19 and pick 24 swap, is there anything in the public domain that confirms this?

The fact that Hawthorn kicked and screamed when they only received pick 19 as compensation for Buddy lends weight to the view that the Buddy compensation pick is theirs to keep.


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Re: What Are Picks 24 & 25 Worth

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We will not get Longer in PSD as longer"s manager has stated if he doesn't get traded he will remain at the lions


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Jiminy Wagga wrote:We will not get Longer in PSD as longer"s manager has stated if he doesn't get traded he will remain at the lions
Thought he was uncontracted and has told the Lions he want to go home.

So that means he will accept a new contract from the Lions?

Doesn't sound right.


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Re: What Are Picks 24 & 25 Worth

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This from jaxons on a different thread

jaxons has been pretty accurate on trades this period
jaxons wrote:
magnifisaint wrote:
jaxons wrote:You have to see that we have started a very strategic process to get the Saints back up the ladder again, and if you look at the trade period it has to be viewed as a success.
We have added a ruckman in Longer who with Hickey will be our ruckman for the next 10 years.
We will add 2 key backman in Bruce and Delaney who will be around for the next 6-10 years, Bruce for 10, Delaney for at least 6.
We will add 4 midfielders to the list in Savage and picks 3, 18 and 19.
We have given up a slow one dimensional ruckman and a midfielder who will be 30 before 2014 starts.
Pretty sensational performance by all involved.
Hasn't happened yet but if it gets done then I'll agree with you.

It has all happened magnifisaint, Longer is a Saint one way or another, Delaney is done for pick 77, and Bruce is 100% guaranteed.
Only thing left is to see who we are left with at picks 3, 18, and 19
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Re: What Are Picks 24 & 25 Worth

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joffaboy wrote:
Jiminy Wagga wrote:We will not get Longer in PSD as longer"s manager has stated if he doesn't get traded he will remain at the lions
Thought he was uncontracted and has told the Lions he want to go home.

So that means he will accept a new contract from the Lions?

Doesn't sound right.

He does want to come home but I'd safely assume he doesn't want to burn Brisbane either


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jaxons
There was mention in the herald scum that we has some dealings with port, so you know what that's about


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that would be port chasing rhys yeah??

not too happy about it myself


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Another multi-club trade involving Gold Coast and St Kilda could send Lion Jared Polec to Port Adelaide.

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maybe thats the port thingy??


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sax wrote:
Hurricane wrote:By the sounds of things we will be parting with 24 or 25 to get Longer and 77 to get Delaney. No word on what Bruce will cost

BANG BANG
If you read this article, we have offered pick 41 for Bruce. GWS want more, but we're not baulking!

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/s ... 6743039128
Cheers. 41 seems like a fair deal from our point of view.

BANG BANG


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Hurricane wrote:
sax wrote:
Hurricane wrote:By the sounds of things we will be parting with 24 or 25 to get Longer and 77 to get Delaney. No word on what Bruce will cost

BANG BANG
If you read this article, we have offered pick 41 for Bruce. GWS want more, but we're not baulking!

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/s ... 6743039128
Cheers. 41 seems like a fair deal from our point of view.

BANG BANG
If we pick up Bruce for 41 without losing Fisher, and then get Delaney for 77 and Longer for 25 we will have done very well indeed.


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Re: What Are Picks 24 & 25 Worth

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plugger66 wrote:
ace wrote:We presently have picks in the National draft
3
18
24
25
41
59
77
95

The club has been making loud noises through the press that they want 3 picks in the top 20.
There are only three ways to get the 3 picks in the top 20.
1 Trade a player or players for a top 20 pick.
2 Trade a player or players and pick or picks for a top 20 pick.
3 Trade at least 2 picks for a top 20 pick.

Without including trading players out, that means in practice trading picks 24 and 25 for a top 20 pick.

What single pick is a fair trade for both picks 24 and 25 combined.

We are getting pick 19 off the Hawks for pick 24 so we dont have to do anything.

That still has not happened. will it happen?


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saintly wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
ace wrote:We presently have picks in the National draft
3
18
24
25
41
59
77
95

The club has been making loud noises through the press that they want 3 picks in the top 20.
There are only three ways to get the 3 picks in the top 20.
1 Trade a player or players for a top 20 pick.
2 Trade a player or players and pick or picks for a top 20 pick.
3 Trade at least 2 picks for a top 20 pick.

Without including trading players out, that means in practice trading picks 24 and 25 for a top 20 pick.

What single pick is a fair trade for both picks 24 and 25 combined.

We are getting pick 19 off the Hawks for pick 24 so we dont have to do anything.

That still has not happened. will it happen?
According to the Pelican that has been agreed to as part of the McEvoy trade and they are just waiting on the free agency compo for buddy


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Re: What Are Picks 24 & 25 Worth

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Pick 19 has not happened yet.

Picks 24 & 25 have been discussed as a possible trade with Port Adelaide for pick 14.
Is that fair value?

Port are looking to trade in a player for a 20s pick but not prepared to give up 14 to get him.
They are looking to buy 2 off 20s picks for pick 14 then use only one of them to trade the player in.


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