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matrix wrote:all clubs pass on a gun
hindsight is fantastic...when its hindsight
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thanks for the put down..
wasn't hindsight at all.....plenty on here were pumping for rioli before the draft.....and were watching on line or listening and commenting on here re the draft............and who were extremely disappointed at the time....including me....said it would cost us big time....and it has.......i could not believe we could be that stupid at the time.......
...time has proven me correct.....
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This is great work from the Pelican! McEvoy has good football skills for a big man but is as slow as a wet week and can't win a hit out to save himself.
Are we waiting for a saviour?
I'm so sick of waiting!
I've been waiting my whole life!
This is a new day!
Simply the Hawks just wanted a serviceable mature ruckman to to take up Bailey's role, and doesn't have to be a star. I never saw Macca as a natural ruckman, and saw him as a weak link, but I wish him well
Funny reading on Big Footy, most neutrals seem to think Saints have lost their minds on this one! Not sure they're wrong, but a lot of people seem to rate Big Boy more highly than I do
We we coping heaps of rubbish over this though from journo's and twitter and so on...saying it's the worst trade ever so forth?
Was McElvoy Simon Madden or something? Sounds like it now! If it was Collingwood it would be the best trade in the world ever!
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Taking a little peek at the Hawks Facebook page and they are pretty happy.
Calling him an elite ruck and top 3 ruckmen in the game. One even said he was "deceptively fast" and blamed his lack of speed last season on a knee injury. I had a bit of a giggle at that one.
Bit of difference in the comments there welcoming Mac and wishing Savage well and our page with people threatening to burn memberships and calling the club "retarted"
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saintlee wrote:Funny reading on Big Footy, most neutrals seem to think Saints have lost their minds on this one! Not sure they're wrong, but a lot of people seem to rate Big Boy more highly than I do
same at my gym this morning....most thought that the saints were mad...i tend to agree with them....if he's good enough for the premiers ...he was certainly good enough for the 16th team.....
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Says it all really.
And isn't it interesting that SEN only has had Saints supporters on who are gropable (as Cath Day-Knight would say) Hmmmm
Also Ralph, Bartlell and hartford have been bagging the Saints. Cant get out of default mode, that dont even report that with Savage we got a first round pick, just "the great awesome best Ruckman of all time" Ben McEvoy has been traded for some hack - Saints have made mistakes, are all over the shop, Watters will be sacked by Round 5 blah blah blah blah.
Really, they have hardly got any of their piss weak reports correct. A bloke on an internet forum was WAY ahead of them on the Mc-Savage trade and they carry on like it is the worst trade for us ever.
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saintlee wrote:Funny reading on Big Footy, most neutrals seem to think Saints have lost their minds on this one! Not sure they're wrong, but a lot of people seem to rate Big Boy more highly than I do
Neutral supporters tend to remember highlights. Ben can take a good mark and has kicked a couple of good goals so that's probably what they remember.
I reckon we've done OK here. We needed more early picks, and we desperately needed mid-age midfielders. We got both (assuming Savage is good).
On the other hand, McEvoy had a poor year this year but I think he's a good player. I expect 2014 will be a really strong year for him, maybe topped off with a flag, and we'll look stupid.
So I agree with the trade, but it'll require a long-term outlook to really judge it.
evo wrote:Trending at =
Agree 50 Disagree 6
Says it all really.
And isn't it interesting that SEN only has had Saints supporters on who are gropable (as Cath Day-Knight would say) Hmmmm
Also Ralph, Bartlell and hartford have been bagging the Saints. Cant get out of default mode, that dont even report that with Savage we got a first round pick, just "the great awesome best Ruckman of all time" Ben McEvoy has been traded for some hack - Saints have made mistakes, are all over the shop, Watters will be sacked by Round 5 blah blah blah blah.
Really, they have hardly got any of their piss weak reports correct. A bloke on an internet forum was WAY ahead of them on the Mc-Savage trade and they carry on like it is the worst trade for us ever.
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harf was really disappointed to be losing savage who he thought would get opportunity over the next few seasons. Now i guess they are happy because they got a high profile ruck. They are good for another couple of seasons but selling first round DPs is a dangerous game. Lovett anyone.
bigcarl wrote:Disagree. Apart from Steven, the only under 25 with any currency in the market.
Should have been building a team around him.
Sorry Carl, but you build teams (whatever that means) around star players who can impact games like key power forwards etc not a ruckman like Macca.
The other problem with Ben is that he can only really play in one position.
My opinion and I'm entitled to it.
Let's revisit it in 12 months or two years and see what the thinking is then.
Ben, like Luke Ball and Goddard before him, will have been p***ing on us from a great height for quite some time by then.
Never said you weren't entitled to an opinion but he's still not a player you build a team around.
I was shatterd when BJ, Ball, Plugger and even Barry Hall left. I can't say that I'll be going to the footy and saying gee whiz, I really miss Ben. He would have been really good around the ground today.
No disrespect to Ben.
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Agree. I think it was obvious from the last quarter against Sydney onwards, that Hickey was our best first ruck option and had a greater impact than Ben. When he was finally fit and in at the bounce Tom's performances were that much better than Ben's. Ben played 2 great games earlier in the year (Richmond and GWS), but has been disappointing since. And Rhys's best form is when forward/2nd ruck.
evo wrote:Trending at =
Agree 50 Disagree 6
Says it all really.
And isn't it interesting that SEN only has had Saints supporters on who are gropable (as Cath Day-Knight would say) Hmmmm
Also Ralph, Bartlell and hartford have been bagging the Saints. Cant get out of default mode, that dont even report that with Savage we got a first round pick, just "the great awesome best Ruckman of all time" Ben McEvoy has been traded for some hack - Saints have made mistakes, are all over the shop, Watters will be sacked by Round 5 blah blah blah blah.
Really, they have hardly got any of their piss weak reports correct. A bloke on an internet forum was WAY ahead of them on the Mc-Savage trade and they carry on like it is the worst trade for us ever.
Muppets
harf was really disappointed to be losing savage who he thought would get opportunity over the next few seasons. Now i guess they are happy because they got a high profile ruck. They are good for another couple of seasons but selling first round DPs is a dangerous game. Lovett anyone.
Ben is a professional and a quality person. He is a leader as well as being captaincy material. Maybe this is what Carl meant.
There is no way you can comapre him to Lovett. Ben will definetley add something to the Hawks in that area.
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GeorgeYoung27 wrote:Agree. I think it was obvious from the last quarter against Sydney onwards, that Hickey was our best first ruck option and had a greater impact than Ben. When he was finally fit and in at the bounce Tom's performances were that much better than Ben's. Ben played 2 great games earlier in the year (Richmond and GWS), but has been disappointing since. And Rhys's best form is when forward/2nd ruck.
ben has since had knee surgery ...so may be something in him being better next year...wait and see i suppose....
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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gringo wrote:Extremely happy and not disrespectfully to Ben as I think it's a win win for both clubs.
Agree
And yes...keeps the Hawks on side in case we try and deal with them again this week or next year.
Hopefully Rhysy boy can string together at least 10-15 games to support Tom and basically it's Rhys's durability that is in question...not his ruck work
I reckon Stanley will be great for us in the ruck and if anyone has any doubt watch the Round 7 match against Carlton last year where Rhys was 1st ruck because Macca was injured.
spert wrote:Simply the Hawks just wanted a serviceable mature ruckman to to take up Bailey's role, and doesn't have to be a star. I never saw Macca as a natural ruckman, and saw him as a weak link, but I wish him well
Agree with this. Win/win for both clubs. The correct decision by Saints.
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