McEvoy to Hawthorn

[duckduckduckgoose]

I guess kicking goals for a forward is nice to have, but non essential?

Tapwork is sort of what the ruckman is there to do.

More than one way to skin a cat.

We have defensive forwards and defensive midfielders in footy now and everybody accepts the role they play for the team- why not a defensive ruckman?

Someone who makes it harder for the good tapwork guys to do what they do best?!

If a ruckman's big strength is is tapwork- negate that, then run off him.

I'll take an extra runner on the field every day of the week over a win in ruck contests.
And I'm not alone in that- most coaches seemingly agree when they sub out a ruckman for a mid.



Of course we all want a Dean Cox who runs all day, wins hitouts, has footy smarts, takes marks and kicks goals... but the reality is that complete package doesn't come around too often.

From a team perspective- winning hitouts is the least important aspect of what a ruckman does in today's footy.

[magnifisaint]

Ben's a great mark, good kick and an imposing physical threat. His ruckwork is average though....so where does that leave us? Hickey/Stanley combination with Lewis the apprentice.

Not sure about Savage but I doubt the deal is real.

His ruck work is s***. When was the last time he was BOG?

[plugger66]

I heard that we are shopping Gilbert & pick 21 to GWS for Tyson & Bruce…

I'd jump at that. Legit?

I think Dragit was proving a point. The point is how easy is it to start a rumour. Maybe im wrong and he did hear it. We will get Savage though. That is fact. Not for Ben though.

[st.byron]

I think Dragit was proving a point. The point is how easy is it to start a rumour. Maybe im wrong and he did hear it. We will get Savage though. That is fact. Not for Ben though.

You tease. Source?

[St Ick]

I heard that we are shopping Gilbert & pick 21 to GWS for Tyson & Bruce…

I'd jump at that. Legit?

I think Dragit was proving a point. The point is how easy is it to start a rumour. Maybe im wrong and he did hear it. We will get Savage though. That is fact. Not for Ben though.

Id shop Gilbert, Fisher, 21 fot Tyson n Bruce, no chance though. Its funny, Suns are more advanced but Giants have all the targets!!

[Watts the Buzz]

Could be on the money here....reported on SEN that Shane Savage has signed a 3 year deal with the Saints....good pick up!

[saintspremiers]

Could be on the money here....reported on SEN that Shane Savage has signed a 3 year deal with the Saints....good pick up!

For what trade?

Is take him

[Eastern]

Could be on the money here....reported on SEN that Shane Savage has signed a 3 year deal with the Saints....good pick up!

There in lies the problem !!

[dragit]

I heard that we are shopping Gilbert & pick 21 to GWS for Tyson & Bruce…

I'd jump at that. Legit?

I think Dragit was proving a point. The point is how easy is it to start a rumour. Maybe im wrong and he did hear it. We will get Savage though. That is fact. Not for Ben though.

Sorry, i just made it up, like this McEvoy rumour.

[slider]

I just said on another thread, i heard the rumour about Savage, my sauce is usually good, i hope his wasnt SEN.

[ljpoyz]

Deal is done http://www.saints.com.au/news/2013-10-1 ... for-mcevoy

[Spinner]

Wowza!

[jonesy]

Great trade

[falka]

I think its a pretty good deal. Liked McEvoy, but see the benefits. Need to secure a mature aged back up ruck now.

[FQF]

I think its a pretty good deal. Liked McEvoy, but see the benefits. Need to secure a mature aged back up ruck now.

I'm hoping that between Hickey, Stanley, Pierce and Holmes, we have it covered.

[Spinner]

Thoughts on this trade?

Ben pick 9. 6 years of development. Savage would have cost pick 25 it's seems.


It obviously solves the Hickey/McEvoy dilemma...

[Mr Magic]

One unintended bonus is that we will no longer have to put up with Brain Taylor waffling on about 'Big Boy' in regards to the Saints.

[markp]

Bye-bye big boy.... all the best.

[Grrrrr]

With this trade being done, Saints would make a play for Longer?

[L.A. Saint]

Love this move.
As much as Macca is a great leader and a pretty good ruckman, this really gives us what we need (a tough, quick, skillful runner) as well as another first round pick.
Macca will be a loss in terms of a big bodied midfielder (he was more a midfielder than a genuine ruckman) and a leader, but after seeing Hickey at the end of the year I think he can be a genuine #1 with Stanley in support.
A mature age backup late in the draft might be something to look at now.

Next stop, Bruce and Delaney and keep Dal.

Go Saints.

[The Redeemer]

Ben's a great mark, good kick and an imposing physical threat. His ruckwork is average though....so where does that leave us? Hickey/Stanley combination with Lewis the apprentice.

Not sure about Savage but I doubt the deal is real.

His ruck work is s***. When was the last time he was BOG?

Thank you

He doesn't do too much

[SENsei]

Great trade for the Saints. Savage is a very very good player in need of regular opportunity. McEvoy will do well at the Hawks. Win win, plus we get an extra pick which probably is the icing. Great deal for us.

[falka]

I think its a pretty good deal. Liked McEvoy, but see the benefits. Need to secure a mature aged back up ruck now.

I'm hoping that between Hickey, Stanley, Pierce and Holmes, we have it covered.

[Bluthy]

This is how Hawthorn got McEvoy:

[southernsaint]

Could a swap of pick 8 and 17 be on the cards in a deal with north. North only need a 1st rounder for there father son?