North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 12421
- Joined: Tue 24 Mar 2009 11:05pm
- Location: St Kilda
- Has thanked: 296 times
- Been thanked: 55 times
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
I actually watched Delaney's youtube clip of his debut game. He actually looks really good. Big strong aggressive back man who pushes his weight around. Looks better than Brown from WCE. I hope we can get him some how. Bruce is more a rangy type than a gorilla back. Delaney is more what we have needed since Shannahan left or what Luke Penny might have been. Max and Zac were always punching above their weight division as KPBs.
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
I reckon 22 is about Dal's worth, I'd take it in a heartbeat if it was guaranteed.Zed wrote:If we only get 22 for Dal when we could have had Delaney and 26ish then that will be a disgrace.
Would much prefer to keep Dal than settle for 22.
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
..it's not unfortunately..bergholt wrote:I reckon 22 is about Dal's worth, I'd take it in a heartbeat if it was guaranteed.Zed wrote:If we only get 22 for Dal when we could have had Delaney and 26ish then that will be a disgrace.
Would much prefer to keep Dal than settle for 22.
.....only reason delaney hasn't played morew games iss because the roos have thompson and grima....be a good get though....
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
"Freedom of expression is the cornerstone of a free society,"
However, freedom of expression is not encouraged in certain forums.
"Freedom of expression is the cornerstone of a free society,"
However, freedom of expression is not encouraged in certain forums.
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
Yes he's their depth player.stinger wrote:..it's not unfortunately..bergholt wrote:I reckon 22 is about Dal's worth, I'd take it in a heartbeat if it was guaranteed.Zed wrote:If we only get 22 for Dal when we could have had Delaney and 26ish then that will be a disgrace.
Would much prefer to keep Dal than settle for 22.
.....only reason delaney hasn't played morew games iss because the roos have thompson and grima....be a good get though....
I'm not totally sold on him.
Dawson at 23 was probably better.
http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Rati ... ke-DELANEY
- Con Gorozidis
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23532
- Joined: Thu 19 Jun 2008 4:04pm
- Has thanked: 100 times
- Been thanked: 78 times
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
Delaney goes off on Youtube.gringo wrote:I actually watched Delaney's youtube clip of his debut game. He actually looks really good. Big strong aggressive back man who pushes his weight around. Looks better than Brown from WCE. I hope we can get him some how. Bruce is more a rangy type than a gorilla back. Delaney is more what we have needed since Shannahan left or what Luke Penny might have been. Max and Zac were always punching above their weight division as KPBs.
Takes a speccie.
Does an awesome tackle.
Picks a fight with J Brown.
At least if we had Delaney and Simpkin down back noone would kick sand in our face. Wed be unbeatable in a fight.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4642
- Joined: Thu 22 Sep 2005 11:17am
- Has thanked: 3 times
- Been thanked: 4 times
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
I don't.The_Dud wrote:I get the feeling whatever the outcome, we're gonna come off second best...
I think we will get the young GWS defender and then have less reason to trade Dal. So it would want to be good!
- magnifisaint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 8190
- Joined: Sun 02 May 2004 2:52am
- Has thanked: 231 times
- Been thanked: 630 times
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
how does he go in the lowlights reel?fingers wrote:having watched the highlights reel - just get him LOL
In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in, they're eating the cats. They’re eating – they are eating the pets of the people that live there.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4642
- Joined: Thu 22 Sep 2005 11:17am
- Has thanked: 3 times
- Been thanked: 4 times
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
I am not going to taint my glass half full view of the world by watching the lowlights!!! Come one. What kind of forumite would I be ??magnifisaint wrote:how does he go in the lowlights reel?fingers wrote:having watched the highlights reel - just get him LOL
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 12421
- Joined: Tue 24 Mar 2009 11:05pm
- Location: St Kilda
- Has thanked: 296 times
- Been thanked: 55 times
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
Con Gorozidis wrote:Delaney goes off on Youtube.gringo wrote:I actually watched Delaney's youtube clip of his debut game. He actually looks really good. Big strong aggressive back man who pushes his weight around. Looks better than Brown from WCE. I hope we can get him some how. Bruce is more a rangy type than a gorilla back. Delaney is more what we have needed since Shannahan left or what Luke Penny might have been. Max and Zac were always punching above their weight division as KPBs.
Takes a speccie.
Does an awesome tackle.
Picks a fight with J Brown.
At least if we had Delaney and Simpkin down back noone would kick sand in our face. Wed be unbeatable in a fight.
That was his debut- he's got a touch of nutter in him. I love the aggression. Pushes Brown off balance every time too.
-
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2190
- Joined: Sun 28 Mar 2004 1:59pm
- Location: by the seaside..
- Has thanked: 36 times
- Been thanked: 187 times
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
So I'm hoping the strategy is to nut out a deal for Bruce ASAP and hold off on any Dal deal . Once the Bruce deal goes through then North will need to come to us with something special, otherwise we tell Delaney to nominate for the PSD.
“If you want the rainbow you gotta put up with rain” Dolly Parton
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1365
- Joined: Tue 30 Mar 2004 5:40pm
- Location: Mitcham
North Not Enough 4 Dal
North are stupid if they don't TRY to give a bit more for Dal. A premiership tilt is an outside possibility and if you really believe this Dal = instant mid depth and far more rotation possibilities. Look at Goddard winning the syringes B&F. Dal is not far behind Bj in what he can deliver. Very durable and with silky skills.
I would be happy to keep Dal on board - a great club-man and aid to the young Saints pups.
Norf don't have what we need -Delaney in a swap for Ledger or or Meister maybe but AA and top 3 in the brownlow twice in Dal Santo's bag of achievements N O W A Y!
We would be dragging our young and growing midfield over the coals if we let Dal go without any real cream in return.
All the time this is probably wasting St.Kilda's time. We should and hopefully are showing as much initiative as Sydney did recently and aim to swing deals with the northern clubs (swans included) to get fair dinkum real players.
Wouldn't waste any more valuable time with norf !
Building a good side may mean waiting a bit longer for real valuable key Defenders. Can Delaney realistically achieve this? Does anyone think he can/
Sam Reid anyone ?
GO SAINTS!
I would be happy to keep Dal on board - a great club-man and aid to the young Saints pups.
Norf don't have what we need -Delaney in a swap for Ledger or or Meister maybe but AA and top 3 in the brownlow twice in Dal Santo's bag of achievements N O W A Y!
We would be dragging our young and growing midfield over the coals if we let Dal go without any real cream in return.
All the time this is probably wasting St.Kilda's time. We should and hopefully are showing as much initiative as Sydney did recently and aim to swing deals with the northern clubs (swans included) to get fair dinkum real players.
Wouldn't waste any more valuable time with norf !
Building a good side may mean waiting a bit longer for real valuable key Defenders. Can Delaney realistically achieve this? Does anyone think he can/
Sam Reid anyone ?
GO SAINTS!
The boy can play and we can build a defence around him that will have respect.
- Siposstar#2
- Club Player
- Posts: 206
- Joined: Tue 13 Sep 2011 4:15pm
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
This!Zed wrote:So I'm hoping the strategy is to nut out a deal for Bruce ASAP and hold off on any Dal deal . Once the Bruce deal goes through then North will need to come to us with something special, otherwise we tell Delaney to nominate for the PSD.
And really stick it to north. Definitely do not let dal go via free agency. As if he does we will get bugger all and north win.
Brad Scott can get stuffed!
Formerly posted as magnifisaint 35
- Con Gorozidis
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23532
- Joined: Thu 19 Jun 2008 4:04pm
- Has thanked: 100 times
- Been thanked: 78 times
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
Definitely hoping we use the PSD. We have pick 3 so we might as well use it on one of Bruce or Delaney?
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
Con Gorozidis wrote:Definitely hoping we use the PSD. We have pick 3 so we might as well use it on one of Bruce or Delaney?
Clubs dont like using the PSD draft anymore unless forced to. Gives you a bad reputation in tading. Less and leass players are going in the PSD.
- Con Gorozidis
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23532
- Joined: Thu 19 Jun 2008 4:04pm
- Has thanked: 100 times
- Been thanked: 78 times
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
Yeah but why? The PSD exists. The rules are the rules. Hardly our fault for using the rules in our favour when we get a high draft pick.plugger66 wrote:Con Gorozidis wrote:Definitely hoping we use the PSD. We have pick 3 so we might as well use it on one of Bruce or Delaney?
Clubs dont like using the PSD draft anymore unless forced to. Gives you a bad reputation in tading. Less and leass players are going in the PSD.
'bad reputation' is complete codswallap imho. Clubs are calculating and rational when it comes to trades and do it on an annual basis and use the rules to suit themselves. Not sure we are all of a sudden going to be holier than thou . If there is something wrong with the PSD - its up to the AFL to change the rules .
Previous years dealings count for nothing. The theory that 'we played hard on Luke Ball so clubs wouldnt take us likely' for instance was a complete crock of sh*t.
Noone is weeping for us for us being sold a pup for Lovett.
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
Con Gorozidis wrote:Yeah but why? The PSD exists. The rules are the rules. Hardly our fault for using the rules in our favour when we get a high draft pick.plugger66 wrote:Con Gorozidis wrote:Definitely hoping we use the PSD. We have pick 3 so we might as well use it on one of Bruce or Delaney?
Clubs dont like using the PSD draft anymore unless forced to. Gives you a bad reputation in tading. Less and leass players are going in the PSD.
'bad reputation' is complete codswallap imho. Clubs are calculating and rational when it comes to trades and do it on an annual basis and use the rules to suit themselves. Not sure we are all of a sudden going to be holier than thou . If there is something wrong with the PSD - its up to the AFL to change the rules .
Previous years dealings count for nothing. The theory that 'we played hard on Luke Ball so clubs wouldnt take us likely' for instance was a complete crock of sh*t.
Noone is weeping for us for us being sold a pup for Lovett.
Dont talk to me about it, talk to the recruiting guys who arent using the PSD near as much as previously. There is no doubt the Saints will try to trade if possible. I havent even heard them threaten to take either Bruce or delaney in the PSD.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 12421
- Joined: Tue 24 Mar 2009 11:05pm
- Location: St Kilda
- Has thanked: 296 times
- Been thanked: 55 times
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
There seems to be much more willingness for clubs to trade players where they want to go. The PSD only allows the bottom clubs access to those players so negotiating is becoming more popular.
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
Yes but some clubs want the earth for their players that they don't even rate when another club has needs. So if we are in a position to take maximum toll then do it.
I've never seen a bad St.Kilda player - that's just how they are.
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
a player is worth what someone else is prepared to payPJ wrote:Yes but some clubs want the earth for their players that they don't even rate when another club has needs. So if we are in a position to take maximum toll then do it.
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
Looks like the pelican has just put north in its place, check this article out . http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/s ... 6735645562
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 12421
- Joined: Tue 24 Mar 2009 11:05pm
- Location: St Kilda
- Has thanked: 296 times
- Been thanked: 55 times
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
I love how the Roos used Dal as the guy who wanted to go there at their B and F dinner and said how awesome and respected he is then offer up an empty chip packet and a turd in a paper bag as a sign of how much they respect him and want him to play for them.
I heard a rumour that Collingwood are after him if he does go down the free agency path. Maybe it will serve the idiots right if the Pies steal him. The Roos need Dal more than any other club and should make top 4 if they land him. But that Scott idiot is a stubborn fool.
I heard a rumour that Collingwood are after him if he does go down the free agency path. Maybe it will serve the idiots right if the Pies steal him. The Roos need Dal more than any other club and should make top 4 if they land him. But that Scott idiot is a stubborn fool.
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
gringo wrote:I love how the Roos used Dal as the guy who wanted to go there at their B and F dinner and said how awesome and respected he is then offer up an empty chip packet and a turd in a paper bag as a sign of how much they respect him and want him to play for them.
I heard a rumour that Collingwood are after him if he does go down the free agency path. Maybe it will serve the idiots right if the Pies steal him. The Roos need Dal more than any other club and should make top 4 if they land him. But that Scott idiot is a stubborn fool.
Scott is doing exactly the right thing by his club. Trying to get him for nothing. makes complete sense.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 12421
- Joined: Tue 24 Mar 2009 11:05pm
- Location: St Kilda
- Has thanked: 296 times
- Been thanked: 55 times
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
plugger66 wrote:gringo wrote:I love how the Roos used Dal as the guy who wanted to go there at their B and F dinner and said how awesome and respected he is then offer up an empty chip packet and a turd in a paper bag as a sign of how much they respect him and want him to play for them.
I heard a rumour that Collingwood are after him if he does go down the free agency path. Maybe it will serve the idiots right if the Pies steal him. The Roos need Dal more than any other club and should make top 4 if they land him. But that Scott idiot is a stubborn fool.
Scott is doing exactly the right thing by his club. Trying to get him for nothing. makes complete sense.
Unless he plays tough and screws it up. What if Dal says "I thought they were keen but they won't budge...might as well stay put."? He needs some one to stop them chocking and has finals experience and outside quality. Dal is there and available. He needs to decide how much it's worth to finish top 4 compared with playing tough guys over a draft pick in the second round and a fringe player.
Re: North offer Pick 26 & Luke for Dal
gringo wrote:plugger66 wrote:gringo wrote:I love how the Roos used Dal as the guy who wanted to go there at their B and F dinner and said how awesome and respected he is then offer up an empty chip packet and a turd in a paper bag as a sign of how much they respect him and want him to play for them.
I heard a rumour that Collingwood are after him if he does go down the free agency path. Maybe it will serve the idiots right if the Pies steal him. The Roos need Dal more than any other club and should make top 4 if they land him. But that Scott idiot is a stubborn fool.
Scott is doing exactly the right thing by his club. Trying to get him for nothing. makes complete sense.
Unless he plays tough and screws it up. What if Dal says "I thought they were keen but they won't budge...might as well stay put."? He needs some one to stop them chocking and has finals experience and outside quality. Dal is there and available. He needs to decide how much it's worth to finish top 4 compared with playing tough guys over a draft pick in the second round and a fringe player.
Of course Scott wouldnt be talking to Dal or his manager and explaining it. why do people thinkk there are no phones around anymore?