What Is Dal Worth

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Re: What Is Dal Worth

Post: # 1400401Post howlinwolf »

The compensation isn't just based on the player's value. The club they come from and how much they need the player is considered.
I.E Hawthorn just won a flag and Buddy going doesn't impact them as much as if we lost him.
That was what Gillom Mac said on 3aw tonight.
So we could in fact get a higher compensation for Dal than Hawthorn get for Buddy.


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Post: # 1400403Post saintsRrising »

dragit wrote:Pretty sure Thomas, Betts & Silvia will also push norths 2nd round pick out further.

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Well Betts will not as the Blues taking Thomas asa FA caancels him out and the Blues will not receive a pick, as they got Thomas (a comparable player)


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Post: # 1400405Post st_Trav_ofWA »

i actually agree with that pluggs .... compo picks tend to disadvantage everyone else ... maybe what the AFL need to do is with the compo picks is hold a second draft where clubs losing a player by free agency can pre list a 17 year old .. the bigger the player that the team lose the earlier choice that club gets ... eg this year hawthorn would get first choice at a 17 year old kid then Collingwood get a choice so on so on


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Re: What Is Dal Worth

Post: # 1400416Post saintspremiers »

Eastern wrote:
plugger66 wrote: There actually should be no compo picks at all if you lose a player to FA in my opinion. You get an extra spot and SC relief and then you chase a FA.

NOT the dumbest statement I have read on here !!
Agree. Would save this Argie Bargie about what a certain players compo value is for starters.


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Re: What Is Dal Worth

Post: # 1400417Post saintspremiers »

howlinwolf wrote:The compensation isn't just based on the player's value. The club they come from and how much they need the player is considered.
I.E Hawthorn just won a flag and Buddy going doesn't impact them as much as if we lost him.
That was what Gillom Mac said on 3aw tonight.
So we could in fact get a higher compensation for Dal than Hawthorn get for Buddy.
Ok cool for us.

Sounds like chooklotto MRP all over again with all this formulation.


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Post: # 1400424Post Rosco »

saintspremiers wrote:
howlinwolf wrote:The compensation isn't just based on the player's value. The club they come from and how much they need the player is considered.
I.E Hawthorn just won a flag and Buddy going doesn't impact them as much as if we lost him.
That was what Gillom Mac said on 3aw tonight.
So we could in fact get a higher compensation for Dal than Hawthorn get for Buddy.
Ok cool for us.

Sounds like chooklotto MRP all over again with all this formulation.
agreed on the chooklotto, sounds like they are conditioning the public for such a scenario, which is good for us. but they probably just made it up last week.

also agree with plugs, there should be no compo picks and I'd expect them to be gone in a couple of years


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Post: # 1400426Post dragit »

howlinwolf wrote:The compensation isn't just based on the player's value. The club they come from and how much they need the player is considered.
I.E Hawthorn just won a flag and Buddy going doesn't impact them as much as if we lost him.
That was what Gillom Mac said on 3aw tonight.
So we could in fact get a higher compensation for Dal than Hawthorn get for Buddy.
I'm not sure how much sympathy we'll get if we void a valid contract on an attempt to gain compensation better than a trade... If we really needed a play we wouldn't be wilfully cancelling his contract.

Pick 4 would be lively but I can't see it happening.


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Post: # 1400440Post Con Gorozidis »

Chances of pick 4 = zero.
Also i think the 2014 contract has been activated. Not sure we can go back on that. I really dont think we can call Dal an uncontracted free agent.
Have the club said they can or is it just speculation. I think one its activated its activated.


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Re: What Is Dal Worth

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plugger66 wrote:
PJ wrote:It would seem he's worth more than North are offering - not that anyone knows what that is (apart from them).

Don't they actually have to make an offer?

It will end up being their second round plus Delaney for Dal. Their second round will be about pick 29. Thats what I think will end up happening. Doesnt mean will should take it.
Delaney and 29 is on the borderline of what i would consider acceptable.


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Post: # 1400443Post linz »

Like it or not everyone is tradeable at the club for the right price.
It's all a matter of weights and measures. It's a bit sad but it was sad swapping Stewart for Barrott
and it was sad losing Big Carl to Melbourne and it was sad seeing Plugger go to Sydney which ironically allowed us to
draft Dal Santo (pick 13?) as compensation.

And I'd be very surprised if we don't get a 15 - 20 comp pick for Dal because he's probably got another 3 good years in him as an A-Grader.
If we don't forget it.


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Post: # 1400446Post FQF »

linz wrote:Like it or not everyone is tradeable at the club for the right price.
It's all a matter of weights and measures. It's a bit sad but it was sad swapping Stewart for Barrott
and it was sad losing Big Carl to Melbourne and it was sad seeing Plugger go to Sydney which ironically allowed us to
draft Dal Santo (pick 13?) as compensation.
I think you'll find that Plugger went to Sydney quite a bit before Dal Santo was drafted.


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howlinwolf wrote:The compensation isn't just based on the player's value. The club they come from and how much they need the player is considered.
I.E Hawthorn just won a flag and Buddy going doesn't impact them as much as if we lost him.
That was what Gillom Mac said on 3aw tonight.
So we could in fact get a higher compensation for Dal than Hawthorn get for Buddy.
ladder position is the difference..........

why we got a higher pick for goddard

I heard the interview as well think your version not quite right...................nothing to do with how much you need a player etc


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Post: # 1400452Post linz »

FQF wrote:
linz wrote:Like it or not everyone is tradeable at the club for the right price.
It's all a matter of weights and measures. It's a bit sad but it was sad swapping Stewart for Barrott
and it was sad losing Big Carl to Melbourne and it was sad seeing Plugger go to Sydney which ironically allowed us to
draft Dal Santo (pick 13?) as compensation.
I think you'll find that Plugger went to Sydney quite a bit before Dal Santo was drafted.
:oops: Sorry, was it Big Bad Bustling Barry Hall then for Dal as comp pick 13. No comparison really. Plugger was a Legend.


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Post: # 1400454Post chook23 »

plugger66 wrote:
PJ wrote:It would seem he's worth more than North are offering - not that anyone knows what that is (apart from them).

Don't they actually have to make an offer?

It will end up being their second round plus Delaney for Dal. Their second round will be about pick 29. Thats what I think will end up happening. Doesnt mean will should take it.
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Post: # 1400462Post SemperFidelis »

Herald Sun tonight reporting Roos tabled pick 26 plus Delaney for Dal. As in North, not Paul. Let the head banging begin ...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/n ... 6735016274


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SemperFidelis wrote:Herald Sun tonight reporting Roos tabled pick 26 plus Delaney for Dal. As in North, not Paul. Let the head banging begin ...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/n ... 6735016274
26 will end up about 29-30


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Re: What Is Dal Worth

Post: # 1400470Post 8856brother »

If we won the flag this year and the Dorks finished last, would anyone be upset with Dorks getting pick 2 compo for Buddy and us getting pick 20 compo for Dal. Don't think so. Pick 4 should be realistic then for Dal. Why is no one questioning an injured Thomas getting a first round compo for the filth? If we finished bottom last year we would have got pick 1 and 2 with Goddard leaving via fa. If North pay him enough we should get pick 4.


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Post: # 1400490Post BigMart »

I would offer them Dal at free agency and receive a compo pick 15-20?

If they were willing to trade Delaney for 60+

Or they lose heir pick 26-29? Or they don't get Dal

Both parties win that way....


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Post: # 1400499Post chook23 »

BigMart wrote:I would offer them Dal at free agency and receive a compo pick 15-20?

If they were willing to trade Delaney for 60+

Or they lose heir pick 26-29? Or they don't get Dal

Both parties win that way....
Unlikely to get 15-20 compo pick

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Re: What Is Dal Worth

Post: # 1401681Post lefty »

Roos tabled pick 26 plus Delaney for Dal is not even worth thinking about.

Adding "Delaney" to pick 26 is rubbish, as Delaney isn't contracted and can simply be attained through the PSD and stating "I wont play for anyone bar St.Kilda" just like Luke Ball did getting to Collingwood.

If crappy Thomas can get a comp pick of #12 and Dal can't get around that, then forget it.

Dal is far more handy to us, than getting a crappy pick.


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