Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
Buckets wrote:It's just unreal that it was even said even in jest! I wouldn't begrudge him if he said stuff the lot of you I'm not taking this crap from my own club!
Tend to agree.Moorabbin Man wrote:Love it or hate it, I reckon Watters is gone. I do not believe Plympton was just joking, what on earth for? What was the punch line? So perhaps the topic of discussion should be, who replaces him?
Or who the hell is Plympton and who the hell are you?Moorabbin Man wrote:Love it or hate it, I reckon Watters is gone. I do not believe Plympton was just joking, what on earth for? What was the punch line? So perhaps the topic of discussion should be, who replaces him?
saintspremiers wrote:Tend to agree.Moorabbin Man wrote:Love it or hate it, I reckon Watters is gone. I do not believe Plympton was just joking, what on earth for? What was the punch line? So perhaps the topic of discussion should be, who replaces him?
Our club is in a state of flux at the moment so a clean broom may be the go.
Fair call. But you must agree the vibe re our club ain't good at the moment. That surely is a pointer to a degree???joffaboy wrote:saintspremiers wrote:Tend to agree.Moorabbin Man wrote:Love it or hate it, I reckon Watters is gone. I do not believe Plympton was just joking, what on earth for? What was the punch line? So perhaps the topic of discussion should be, who replaces him?
Our club is in a state of flux at the moment so a clean broom may be the go.
can you or anyone else confirm with any facts any of these rumours????
Please confirm the rumours so we can then make decisions
joffaboy wrote:Buckets wrote:It's just unreal that it was even said even in jest! I wouldn't begrudge him if he said stuff the lot of you I'm not taking this crap from my own club!
But its not from "his own club" but some pissed hasbeen pissed ex president.
Would know all about sacking coaches - he was the retard who sacked Stan and installed Tim Watson - what a fkn loser
As long as I don't have to shake his handmatrix wrote:He should be made to crap in his own hands and the clap them over his own head
Idiot.
No I dont. Not one of the rumours reported as FACT has been proven to be fact.saintspremiers wrote:
Fair call. But you must agree the vibe re our club ain't good at the moment. That surely is a pointer to a degree???
We should start a campaign of abuse against those tools, that is fine wallet and Farlett who continue these campaigns against us.joffaboy wrote:No I dont. Not one of the rumours reported as FACT has been proven to be fact.saintspremiers wrote:
Fair call. But you must agree the vibe re our club ain't good at the moment. That surely is a pointer to a degree???
MASS EXEDUS
ROO to Collingwood
WATTERS Sacked.
it is a malicious campaign headed by the **** like Fine and Allen and Wallace at SEN where apparently they dont need proof before proclaiming all these rumours as fact.
Only a weak mind would believe it
I don't believe in any panic about all this but lets not pretend that there aren't any behind the scenes issues go on - there is too much smoke from too many different regions. Plymptons was a joke but a joke with a fair bit of malice behind it. It seems like Watters comments about "mediocrity" (which seems to be the word he used) has created a lot of ripples throughout the St Kilda old boy network. The old warriors who came within a wonky bounce of the ball of having a flag probably didn't appreciate their gut busting efforts being described that way esp with the wounds from 2 close GF still raw and felt disrespected. From someone I thought communicated well it was a bad error from Watters. Then have you have Pelchen who by most accounts has a lot of hubris and has cemented his power getting rid of the football ops director. Watters is probably in a slightly shakier position that he probably should be but if he keeps his nerve he should be ok. The way he handled Kosi, milney, and blake gave him some credits. Things are a bit polarised at the club. Its not the end of the world. In the long run it may not even be a bad thing. If you can hold your own in a power struggle if proves you have the mettle and the political nous you need in one of the most cliquey industries you will ever find.joffaboy wrote:No I dont. Not one of the rumours reported as FACT has been proven to be fact.saintspremiers wrote:
Fair call. But you must agree the vibe re our club ain't good at the moment. That surely is a pointer to a degree???
MASS EXEDUS
ROO to Collingwood
WATTERS Sacked.
it is a malicious campaign headed by the **** like Fine and Allen and Wallace at SEN where apparently they dont need proof before proclaiming all these rumours as fact.
Only a weak mind would believe it
Not bad Bluthy, not bad at all. Think you have the situation fairly right there. Those 09/10 guys did give it their all, but we are on the verge again of falling into our bad old ways. Another flag with that group isn't/wasn't going to happen, and it hurts. Think Scott is trying to up the ante. Which I think is fair enough.Bluthy wrote:I don't believe in any panic about all this but lets not pretend that there aren't any behind the scenes issues go on - there is too much smoke from too many different regions. Plymptons was a joke but a joke with a fair bit of malice behind it. It seems like Watters comments about "mediocrity" (which seems to be the word he used) has created a lot of ripples throughout the St Kilda old boy network. The old warriors who came within a wonky bounce of the ball of having a flag probably didn't appreciate their gut busting efforts being described that way esp with the wounds from 2 close GF still raw and felt disrespected. From someone I thought communicated well it was a bad error from Watters. Then have you have Pelchen who by most accounts has a lot of hubris and has cemented his power getting rid of the football ops director. Watters is probably in a slightly shakier position that he probably should be but if he keeps his nerve he should be ok. The way he handled Kosi, milney, and blake gave him some credits. Things are a bit polarised at the club. Its not the end of the world. In the long run it may not even be a bad thing. If you can hold your own in a power struggle if proves you have the mettle and the political nous you need in one of the most cliquey industries you will ever find.joffaboy wrote:No I dont. Not one of the rumours reported as FACT has been proven to be fact.saintspremiers wrote:
Fair call. But you must agree the vibe re our club ain't good at the moment. That surely is a pointer to a degree???
MASS EXEDUS
ROO to Collingwood
WATTERS Sacked.
it is a malicious campaign headed by the **** like Fine and Allen and Wallace at SEN where apparently they dont need proof before proclaiming all these rumours as fact.
Only a weak mind would believe it
( God help me) Coming from our most optimistic supporter! C'Mon Jiggster. Don't let them get you down!thejiggingsaint wrote:One could be forgiven for wondering if it's worth bothering
Says a lot when Dave is questioning the worth of it.Verdun66 wrote:Coming from our most optimistic supporter! C'Mon Jiggster. Don't let them get you down!thejiggingsaint wrote:One could be forgiven for wondering if it's worth bothering
I agree. But the lesson out of the last few weeks is don't underestimate how hard things are going to be. Finishing in bottom 3 for next 3 years, average membership, losing club legends - the heat is coming on and coming hard. The good signs are despite the differences behind the scenes (which isn't unusual), the board, Pelchen and Watters are putting up a united front. A lot of the frustration and pain of being so close to a couple of flags has been pouring out. It probably had to happen. If we can ride this out, the future will begin.Verdun66 wrote:
Not bad Bluthy, not bad at all. Think you have the situation fairly right there. Those 09/10 guys did give it their all, but we are on the verge again of falling into our bad old ways. Another flag with that group isn't/wasn't going to happen, and it hurts. Think Scott is trying to up the ante. Which I think is fair enough.
Funny thing is, even though both those GF's we could and perhaps should have won, we didn't go into any of them Favourites. And our best guys were unbelievable, but our quality ran out in our bottom tier players. Geelong had more depth and the Pies seemed to have extra energy and power (?). Anyway, think those GF vets are still burnt, and nothing can probably fix it.
We have to reload. Professional sport.
Well said. I am pretty nervous about all this. Where there is smoke there is generally fire and it would seem things arn't as peachy as we hoped. Lets hope the dust can settle quickly and we can get on with the business of rebuilding.Bluthy wrote:I don't believe in any panic about all this but lets not pretend that there aren't any behind the scenes issues go on - there is too much smoke from too many different regions. Plymptons was a joke but a joke with a fair bit of malice behind it. It seems like Watters comments about "mediocrity" (which seems to be the word he used) has created a lot of ripples throughout the St Kilda old boy network. The old warriors who came within a wonky bounce of the ball of having a flag probably didn't appreciate their gut busting efforts being described that way esp with the wounds from 2 close GF still raw and felt disrespected. From someone I thought communicated well it was a bad error from Watters. Then have you have Pelchen who by most accounts has a lot of hubris and has cemented his power getting rid of the football ops director. Watters is probably in a slightly shakier position that he probably should be but if he keeps his nerve he should be ok. The way he handled Kosi, milney, and blake gave him some credits. Things are a bit polarised at the club. Its not the end of the world. In the long run it may not even be a bad thing. If you can hold your own in a power struggle if proves you have the mettle and the political nous you need in one of the most cliquey industries you will ever find.joffaboy wrote:No I dont. Not one of the rumours reported as FACT has been proven to be fact.saintspremiers wrote:
Fair call. But you must agree the vibe re our club ain't good at the moment. That surely is a pointer to a degree???
MASS EXEDUS
ROO to Collingwood
WATTERS Sacked.
it is a malicious campaign headed by the **** like Fine and Allen and Wallace at SEN where apparently they dont need proof before proclaiming all these rumours as fact.
Only a weak mind would believe it
