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Post: # 1385053Post Dr Spaceman »

Well just in case it happens again, this should snuff it out quickly :)

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maybe they should have just offered him a slice of lime for his drink
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Post: # 1385068Post magnifisaint »

stevie wrote:
8856brother wrote:Funniest football moment of this decade. Up there with the Plugger and Eddie crutch incident, and about as serious. It's almost unbelievable how some people are behaving. Clint should be publicly executed. That might keep cross dressers like Gerard Whateley happy.
Some one should set Gerard alight and get dwarves to piss on him
You wouldn't want to spoil his frock


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saintbrat wrote:
he suggests he is twice the man CJ is.

little man's syndrome......


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'Breaking his silence' video is up....

http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/video?videoid=2648091734001

Likely one of the lamest thing you'll ever see.

Although no doubt Joey was a knob for not just agreeing to pay for the clothes, even if the little dude was well paid for apparently doing not much ($250 for 2 hours)... a pair of trackies and some type of nylon top would probably set you back about $30.


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Post: # 1385160Post The Fireman »

haha I couldn't stop laughing through that interview.


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The Fireman wrote:haha I couldn't stop laughing through that interview.

Sssssh its a hate crime.


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markp wrote:'Breaking his silence' video is up....

http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/video?videoid=2648091734001

Likely one of the lamest thing you'll ever see.

Although no doubt Joey was a knob for not just agreeing to pay for the clothes, even if the little dude was well paid for apparently doing not much ($250 for 2 hours)... a pair of trackies and some type of nylon top would probably set you back about $30.

Childrens sizes are even cheaper.

Oops there I go getting my hate crime attitude on.


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Post: # 1385172Post Life Long Saint »

markp wrote:'Breaking his silence' video is up....

http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/video?videoid=2648091734001
Mmmmm...Martin Distasio with that chilling report.

"Reporting" like that is the very reason why I stopped watching ACA and Today Tonight when Frontline came out.


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Post: # 1385173Post darylcowie »

Now we know why CJ always had the wood on Brent "Boomer" Harvey.

He was following him around with a cigarette lighter in his pocket!


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The mob mentality is alive and well I see.

Disagree by all means, but the bullying in thread is ordinary and makes me feel uncomfortable


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Post: # 1385183Post bigred »

stevie wrote:Ok, one more and that's it!!

'You know that it could be untrue
You know that I am not a liar
But Lenny leaned across to Roo
Said, Jonesy's set the dwarf on fire...'

That tipped me over the edge.

Close to the funniest thing posted on this forum in several years.


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Post: # 1385184Post Kickit »

Life Long Saint wrote:
markp wrote:'Breaking his silence' video is up....

http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/video?videoid=2648091734001
Mmmmm...Martin Distasio with that chilling report.

"Reporting" like that is the very reason why I stopped watching ACA and Today Tonight when Frontline came out.
Frontline was hilarious because it was just so real.
Editing the interviews afterwards.
Having a stash of eulogies ready in case aging celebrities die.
Kneeling in a ditch miles from a siege to make it look more dramatic.

I'd love them to do it again.
You can put on all the "media watch" shows you like and there is no real impact.
But get people laughing at them. ....


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Post: # 1385185Post markinUSA »

Great news.
While all of you have spent your time criticizing me, and making out as if I am the only one who could possibly see this as a disability hate crime, disability organizations across the country are now responding to it and framing it this way.
I'll quote from a magazine written by and for people with disabilities, that came out today.
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What is a disability hate crime?

If someone commits a crime against a person with a
disability because they do not like disabled people, that is a disability hate crime.

This week, everyone is talking about Blake Johnston. Blake Johnston is an entertainer who was set on fire by
football players at the St Kilda Football Club.

Blake Johnston wasn’t hurt, and it was supposed to be a joke. But Blake didn’t think it was funny.

Blake has a disability - he is a short statured person. Some people are asking if the same thing would have happened if the entertainer at the club didn’t have a disability.

Some famous Australian entertainers with a disability are comedians Stella Young, Adam Hills and Tim Ferguson.

We all have rights to:
keep safe and feel safe
use the Law
speak up and for people to listen to us
be treated well and with respect
be who we are
make our own choices
keep our things safe

It is wrong for anyone to
hurt you or make you feel unsafe.
It is wrong for anyone to take or harm your things.
It is wrong for anyone to treat you badly for who you are.

You should tell someone if anything makes you feel bad.

What can you do if you think you have been a victim of hate crime?
You have a right to
Tell someone if
anything makes you feel bad
Report it if something is wrong
Tell the police if anyone does something against the law
------

So, the campaign to pressure the AFL to respond more appropriately to disability in a more appropriate manner is well under way. Thanks in no small part to the crime committed by Saints players.


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Post: # 1385186Post CURLY »

markinUSA wrote:Great news.
While all of you have spent your time criticizing me, and making out as if I am the only one who could possibly see this as a disability hate crime, disability organizations across the country are now responding to it and framing it this way.
I'll quote from a magazine written by and for people with disabilities, that came out today.
-----
What is a disability hate crime?

If someone commits a crime against a person with a
disability because they do not like disabled people, that is a disability hate crime.

This week, everyone is talking about Blake Johnston. Blake Johnston is an entertainer who was set on fire by
football players at the St Kilda Football Club.

Blake Johnston wasn’t hurt, and it was supposed to be a joke. But Blake didn’t think it was funny.

Blake has a disability - he is a short statured person. Some people are asking if the same thing would have happened if the entertainer at the club didn’t have a disability.

Some famous Australian entertainers with a disability are comedians Stella Young, Adam Hills and Tim Ferguson.

We all have rights to:
keep safe and feel safe
use the Law
speak up and for people to listen to us
be treated well and with respect
be who we are
make our own choices
keep our things safe

It is wrong for anyone to
hurt you or make you feel unsafe.
It is wrong for anyone to take or harm your things.
It is wrong for anyone to treat you badly for who you are.

You should tell someone if anything makes you feel bad.

What can you do if you think you have been a victim of hate crime?
You have a right to
Tell someone if
anything makes you feel bad
Report it if something is wrong
Tell the police if anyone does something against the law
------

So, the campaign to pressure the AFL to respond more appropriately to disability in a more appropriate manner is well under way. Thanks in no small part to the crime committed by Saints players.


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Post: # 1385188Post busso mick »

Dr Spaceman wrote:Well just in case it happens again, this should snuff it out quickly :)

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As a goodwill gesture the Saints should invite Blake Johnston to our B&F, whereby Greg Westaway could deliver his introduction

"Good evening ladies, gentlemen and extinguished guests"


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Post: # 1385189Post plugger66 »

markinUSA wrote:Great news.
While all of you have spent your time criticizing me, and making out as if I am the only one who could possibly see this as a disability hate crime, disability organizations across the country are now responding to it and framing it this way.
I'll quote from a magazine written by and for people with disabilities, that came out today.
-----
What is a disability hate crime?

If someone commits a crime against a person with a
disability because they do not like disabled people, that is a disability hate crime.

This week, everyone is talking about Blake Johnston. Blake Johnston is an entertainer who was set on fire by
football players at the St Kilda Football Club.

Blake Johnston wasn’t hurt, and it was supposed to be a joke. But Blake didn’t think it was funny.

Blake has a disability - he is a short statured person. Some people are asking if the same thing would have happened if the entertainer at the club didn’t have a disability.

Some famous Australian entertainers with a disability are comedians Stella Young, Adam Hills and Tim Ferguson.

We all have rights to:
keep safe and feel safe
use the Law
speak up and for people to listen to us
be treated well and with respect
be who we are
make our own choices
keep our things safe

It is wrong for anyone to
hurt you or make you feel unsafe.
It is wrong for anyone to take or harm your things.
It is wrong for anyone to treat you badly for who you are.

You should tell someone if anything makes you feel bad.

What can you do if you think you have been a victim of hate crime?
You have a right to
Tell someone if
anything makes you feel bad
Report it if something is wrong
Tell the police if anyone does something against the law
------

So, the campaign to pressure the AFL to respond more appropriately to disability in a more appropriate manner is well under way. Thanks in no small part to the crime committed by Saints players.

Can I ask you one question Mark. Do you actually think they lit the dwarfs clothes because he was small and if yes then why did they also light many other players clothes when they are of normal height. There is no crime here yet and no one has been charged. It was dumbg. it was childish but IMO the lighting of the clothes had nothing to do with their height but the hiring of them had everything to do with their height.


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Post: # 1385190Post plugger66 »

busso mick wrote:
Dr Spaceman wrote:Well just in case it happens again, this should snuff it out quickly :)

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As a goodwill gesture the Saints should invite Blake Johnston to our B&F, whereby Greg Westaway could deliver his introduction

"Good evening ladies, gentlemen and extinguished guests"

That is very good.


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Post: # 1385193Post Johnny Member »

markinUSA wrote:
This week, everyone is talking about Blake Johnston. Blake Johnston is an entertainer who was set on fire by
football players at the St Kilda Football Club.

Blake Johnston wasn’t hurt, and it was supposed to be a joke. But Blake didn’t think it was funny.

Blake has a disability - he is a short statured person. Some people are asking if the same thing would have happened if the entertainer at the club didn’t have a disability.

Two things though...

It's factually incorrect that he "was set on fire by football players at the St Kilda Football Club". It was one player. According to another dwarf that was present, the other players around him weren't pleased with it and assisted the dwarf.

Secondly, 'it' happened to everyone at the party, apparently. So dare I say it would have happened to anyone - dwarf or not.


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Post: # 1385197Post Dis Believer »

markinUSA wrote:Great news.
While all of you have spent your time criticizing me, and making out as if I am the only one who could possibly see this as a disability hate crime, disability organizations across the country are now responding to it and framing it this way.
I'll quote from a magazine written by and for people with disabilities, that came out today.
-----
What is a disability hate crime?

If someone commits a crime against a person with a
disability because they do not like disabled people, that is a disability hate crime.

This week, everyone is talking about Blake Johnston. Blake Johnston is an entertainer who was set on fire by
football players at the St Kilda Football Club.

Blake Johnston wasn’t hurt, and it was supposed to be a joke. But Blake didn’t think it was funny.

Blake has a disability - he is a short statured person. Some people are asking if the same thing would have happened if the entertainer at the club didn’t have a disability.

Some famous Australian entertainers with a disability are comedians Stella Young, Adam Hills and Tim Ferguson.

We all have rights to:
keep safe and feel safe
use the Law
speak up and for people to listen to us
be treated well and with respect
be who we are
make our own choices
keep our things safe

It is wrong for anyone to
hurt you or make you feel unsafe.
It is wrong for anyone to take or harm your things.
It is wrong for anyone to treat you badly for who you are.

You should tell someone if anything makes you feel bad.

What can you do if you think you have been a victim of hate crime?
You have a right to
Tell someone if
anything makes you feel bad
Report it if something is wrong
Tell the police if anyone does something against the law
------

So, the campaign to pressure the AFL to respond more appropriately to disability in a more appropriate manner is well under way. Thanks in no small part to the crime committed by Saints players.
So we are planning to run the world according to how people feel - excellent - that should work well... A magazine by disabled peopel, for disabled people. Well that should be nice and impartial. Congratulations. Attitudes like this do more harm than good in the wider community to the cause they "support". You should try reading a childrens story "The boy who cried wolf", or in your world, "The boy who cried hate crime"!


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Post: # 1385198Post SainterK »

I disagree with a lot of what mark says.

It was player, not players.

I do agree jones thought was 'let's set the dwarf on fire' because there was no mistaking him for another player.

I don't believe it was a hate crime though, more drunken stupidity.

I don't like how many are locking and loading on one poster though, everyone's opinion should be welcomed.

Mark, you've tarnished everyone there, which is grossly unfair. What's this "players" business?


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Post: # 1385206Post Con Gorozidis »

Pretty Stingy from Montagna imho.
Just pay the dwarf, apologise and move on.
You dont play hard ball against a dwarf.


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Post: # 1385207Post gringo »

True Believer wrote:
markinUSA wrote:Great news.
While all of you have spent your time criticizing me, and making out as if I am the only one who could possibly see this as a disability hate crime, disability organizations across the country are now responding to it and framing it this way.
I'll quote from a magazine written by and for people with disabilities, that came out today.
-----
What is a disability hate crime?

If someone commits a crime against a person with a
disability because they do not like disabled people, that is a disability hate crime.

This week, everyone is talking about Blake Johnston. Blake Johnston is an entertainer who was set on fire by
football players at the St Kilda Football Club.

Blake Johnston wasn’t hurt, and it was supposed to be a joke. But Blake didn’t think it was funny.

Blake has a disability - he is a short statured person. Some people are asking if the same thing would have happened if the entertainer at the club didn’t have a disability.

Some famous Australian entertainers with a disability are comedians Stella Young, Adam Hills and Tim Ferguson.

We all have rights to:
keep safe and feel safe
use the Law
speak up and for people to listen to us
be treated well and with respect
be who we are
make our own choices
keep our things safe

It is wrong for anyone to
hurt you or make you feel unsafe.
It is wrong for anyone to take or harm your things.
It is wrong for anyone to treat you badly for who you are.

You should tell someone if anything makes you feel bad.

What can you do if you think you have been a victim of hate crime?
You have a right to
Tell someone if
anything makes you feel bad
Report it if something is wrong
Tell the police if anyone does something against the law
------

So, the campaign to pressure the AFL to respond more appropriately to disability in a more appropriate manner is well under way. Thanks in no small part to the crime committed by Saints players.
So we are planning to run the world according to how people feel - excellent - that should work well... A magazine by disabled peopel, for disabled people. Well that should be nice and impartial. Congratulations. Attitudes like this do more harm than good in the wider community to the cause they "support". You should try reading a childrens story "The boy who cried wolf", or in your world, "The boy who cried hate crime"!
i thought Tim Ferguson's only disability was being born with out a sense of humour.

I was assaulted by Arthur the other dwarf and ridiculed because of the way I look. Is that a hate crime- I said nothing to him and didn't even interact when he started insulting me. He spat a drink in the face of a girl i was with, hit me in the groin repeatedly and smashed me over the head with a pool cue from behind while goading me to fight him. Is that a hate crime or is that okay because he is disabled. i couldn't do anything back with out looking like a coward so just let him keep going and he knew the bouncers so they wouldn't kick him out.

Is that a hate crime? He said he hated me when I asked him what his problem was. Apparently I thought I was good. So probably fair enough, but as a vacuous, egotistical man who was targeted because of his physical attributes I'm not afforded the same protection because if I wanted to I could have punched him out. Blake johnson could equally go and get a baseball bat and level the playing field with Clint.

I'm a lefty and against bullying of minorities myself but he was targeted no more than anyone else there.


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Post: # 1385210Post markp »

It sounds like if they'd hired either a clown, a magician, or an accordion player in a costume, given the opportunity jones would've set them alight too.

Joey acted like a tool and showed himself to be not very bright or mature in the follow up, but this guy's appearance and performance on ACA shows where his priorities are at.


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