South Melbourne Keystone Cops

[White Winmar]

Midget - the language of disrespect and hate.

He's not a midget. By definition, he's a dwarf. Get it right, you hate-filled, ignorant discriminator!

[markinUSA]

Well thanks everyone for your support.

I am very sad that I am not in Melbourne right now. If I was, I would be at St Kilda Football Club tomorrow, with the Clint Jones run-out top I bought through the Saints auctions, when he was first drafted. I would be burning it in public.

[plugger66]

Well thanks everyone for your support.

I am very sad that I am not in Melbourne right now. If I was, I would be at St Kilda Football Club tomorrow, with the Clint Jones run-out top I bought through the Saints auctions, when he was first drafted. I would be burning it in public.

Not with a dwarf inside it i would hope. It was a stupid thing to do but it had nothing to do with the guy being a dwarf as many players had the stupid prank played on them during the day.

[gringo]

The South melbourne cops spent all day reviewing that tape and didn't get it to market quick enough. The media should rehash this tomorrow so they still get their cash or otherwise how will they fund their hiring of dwarves and alcohol at this years christmas party

[Buckets]

Well thanks everyone for your support.

I am very sad that I am not in Melbourne right now. If I was, I would be at St Kilda Football Club tomorrow, with the Clint Jones run-out top I bought through the Saints auctions, when he was first drafted. I would be burning it in public.

Not with a dwarf inside it i would hope. It was a stupid thing to do but it had nothing to do with the guy being a dwarf as many players had the stupid prank played on them during the day.

But it's easier to forget that and claim it as some kind of hate crime Plugger. Haven't you realized that?

[satchmo]

Well thanks everyone for your support.

I am very sad that I am not in Melbourne right now. If I was, I would be at St Kilda Football Club tomorrow, with the Clint Jones run-out top I bought through the Saints auctions, when he was first drafted. I would be burning it in public.

So that's a "hate crime" yeah?

[markinUSA]

That would be a protest, Satchmo, not a hate crime.
Where is the criminal act?
For it to be a hate crime, it would have to be a crime first.
Like, say, setting a person on fire.
Only a total scumbag would do that.

[dragit]

That would be a protest, Satchmo, not a hate crime.
Where is the criminal act?
For it to be a hate crime, it would have to be a crime first.
Like, say, setting a person on fire.
Only a total scumbag would do that.

How many years do you think he'll get?

[plugger66]

That would be a protest, Satchmo, not a hate crime.
Where is the criminal act?
For it to be a hate crime, it would have to be a crime first.
Like, say, setting a person on fire.
Only a total scumbag would do that.

So can I ask are you also upset jack Steven clothes were set on fire. The dwarf wasnt set on fire by the way, it was his clothes. Childish, dumb, mad monday stupid.

[gringo]

That would be a protest, Satchmo, not a hate crime.
Where is the criminal act?
For it to be a hate crime, it would have to be a crime first.
Like, say, setting a person on fire.
Only a total scumbag would do that.

How many years do you think he'll get?

a short custodial sentence would do.

[satchmo]

That would be a protest, Satchmo, not a hate crime.
Where is the criminal act?
For it to be a hate crime, it would have to be a crime first.
Like, say, setting a person on fire.
Only a total scumbag would do that.

Sounds like you are expressing a lot of hatred Mark.
I think that Blake will be ok, and it sounds like he has accepted Clint's apology.

[gringo]

His dignity was damaged and I could tell by the footage of him dressed as Beyonce and dancing along to "put a ring on it" dignity is very important to him.

[dragit]

His dignity was damaged and I could tell by the footage of him dressed as Beyonce and dancing along to "put a ring on it" dignity is very important to him.

I hear ya

[gringo]

His dignity was damaged and I could tell by the footage of him dressed as Beyonce and dancing along to "put a ring on it" dignity is very important to him.

I hear ya

I'm with CJ -where's the lighter- somethings just make you want to burn them- midget clowns are one of them.

[70s sainter]

Well thanks everyone for your support.

I am very sad that I am not in Melbourne right now. If I was, I would be at St Kilda Football Club tomorrow, with the Clint Jones run-out top I bought through the Saints auctions, when he was first drafted. I would be burning it in public.

I hope ohio is one of the states that is legalizing marijuana as you need to roll a fat one and chill out a bit.
You could even roll it up in a little saints jumper and burn it down all the way man.

[Dr Spaceman]

Well thanks everyone for your support.

I am very sad that I am not in Melbourne right now. If I was, I would be at St Kilda Football Club tomorrow, with the Clint Jones run-out top I bought through the Saints auctions, when he was first drafted. I would be burning it in public.

Most people, myself included, seem to think your response to this is a bit over the top.

Ahh to hell with it; way over the top!

We've had "jail the offender", "hate crimes" and now "burn Clint Jones's top"

Anyway, just in case you are on the right track and we've got this all wrong, there is one way you can clarify things. You say you've emailed the victim. Why don't you run these ideas past him and see if he agrees they're both reasonable and warranted?

I may be wrong but I actually think he's probably less offended and less affected by the actions against him than you are.

[Con Gorozidis]

I have nfi and mark has written a book on it but wouldn't a hate crime be when the primary reason for committing the crime and selecting the victim is on account of some personal characteristic such as race religion or disability ?

I wouldn't think that definition would be met in this case .
If anything it was a crime of inclusion not exclusion .

Sure it was dumb and silly but Blakes identity or status as a little dude wasnt the primary reason for his victim hood.

He was more vulnerable yes but not targeted only treated as equal when maybe more care ought to have been given to his vulnerability. But that seems like something a long way from a hate crime to me.

[BigMart]

Dr Spaceman

Facts are known now.... It happened

What is your view.... Is it still ok?!

Some of the stuff written on this thread is offensive, and embarrassing for those who wrote it IMO

I just figured out why going to the footy is an unpleasant experience.... When supporting football, people tend to lose their morals (and brains) and are just plain offensive... Seems the same goes for

Being a one eyed loyal passionate supporter, allows you to say anything you want, without having to justifying further than the fact your just supporting your team... It pathetic and the cultural norm

[joffaboy]

Well thanks everyone for your support.

I am very sad that I am not in Melbourne right now. If I was, I would be at St Kilda Football Club tomorrow, with the Clint Jones run-out top I bought through the Saints auctions, when he was first drafted. I would be burning it in public.

Do that where you live and you would get shot in a drive by.

Oh and you can apologise whenever you like for being so pathetically and desperately WRONG.

You have made a total fool of yourself.

Stay in the land of 300 million guns and dont lecture the country you have left about morality.

[Wayne42]

Funny thread, well it started out funny and ended up hilarious

[Dr Spaceman]

Dr Spaceman

Facts are known now.... It happened

What is your view.... Is it still ok?!

Some of the stuff written on this thread is offensive, and embarrassing for those who wrote it IMO

I just figured out why going to the footy is an unpleasant experience.... When supporting football, people tend to lose their morals (and brains) and are just plain offensive... Seems the same goes for

Being a one eyed loyal passionate supporter, allows you to say anything you want, without having to justifying further than the fact your just supporting your team... It pathetic and the cultural norm

I'm certainly not embarrassed.

I made a point last night that I wouldn't comment until the facts were known.

As posted on another thread, I now know Clint Jones was the culprit and I fully support any and all action the club takes against him.

Now tell me again just why such an approach is such a terrible thing?

[joffaboy]

Dr Spaceman

Facts are known now.... It happened

What happened?

What is your view.... Is it still ok?!

What happened?

Some of the stuff written on this thread is offensive, and embarrassing for those who wrote it IMO

yes kanagaroo Courts are offensive

I just figured out why going to the footy is an unpleasant experience

You have to sit with yourself????

.... When supporting football, people tend to lose their morals (and brains) and are just plain offensive

You support drug addicts playing at our club and lecture on morals - Yup OK

Being a one eyed loyal passionate supporter, allows you to say anything you want, without having to justifying further than the fact your just supporting your team

Tell us what happened, you have all the facts apparently, who is being charged and with what?

It pathetic and the cultural norm

As opposed to supporting drug addicts?

Glass Houses.

Apology accepted as well.

[BigMart]

In case you didn't know JB.... It's been admitted to, there has been an apology issued and responsibility taken... The rest of your silly rant and personal jibes are just typical....

On the old chestnut of BC

Damien Hardwick supported a drug addict? Ross Lyon, Nick Roewoldt and Lenny Hayes were willing to

Many friends and girlfriend support drug addicts

Many parents and family members support drug addicts

Michael Gardiner supported Ben as his best mate, and was probably a user...

Seriously JB, Is that you best argument

Drug addiction is not a moral problem in the fact you're NOT denigrating others, it's a physical and mental sickness in where you are self harming your own health.... How exactly did BC hurt or humiliate anyone at WCE
Bashing woman or humiliating dwarfes are issues of morality and are just a little bit more concerning when judging a character

Drug addicts do rehabilitate, and many have succumbe to substance abbuse... Some very good people unfortunately...

Not sure your point with BC

He was not evil, not an arsehole.... From all reports a pretty funny bloke who was extremely engaging

[Jacks Back]

Dr Spaceman

Facts are known now.... It happened

What is your view.... Is it still ok?!

Some of the stuff written on this thread is offensive, and embarrassing for those who wrote it IMO

I just figured out why going to the footy is an unpleasant experience.... When supporting football, people tend to lose their morals (and brains) and are just plain offensive... Seems the same goes for

Being a one eyed loyal passionate supporter, allows you to say anything you want, without having to justifying further than the fact your just supporting your team... It pathetic and the cultural norm

The facts are out and Clint Jones was the culprit however the dwarf victim wasn't the only one that had his clothes burnt and therefore was not victimized for being "disabled" or a dwarf. Other players also had their clothes burnt and, by the sounds of things, had them burnt before the dwarf. No hate crime to see here markinusa.

[Bernard Shakey]

I just figured out why going to the footy is an unpleasant experience.... When supporting football, people tend to lose their morals (and brains) and are just plain offensive... Seems the same goes for

Being a one eyed loyal passionate supporter, allows you to say anything you want, without having to justifying further than the fact your just supporting your team... It pathetic and the cultural norm

Going to the footy has nothing to do with morals, it's a form of entertainment that millions of people enjoy.

And you just don't understand the game, even though you pretend to know every nuance of every player on our list and most other lists.

You are one serious ego BM and maybe it's time you grew up. If you really are a PE teacher, pity the kids at your school.