Dustin Martin

[stubbies]

Martin is the size we need but I think there are better options. I believe we should not draft any player under 185 or 190 cm
Have to many of similar size eg Steven, Curren, Ledger, Wright, Newnes, Saunders, Webster etc.
Need players even if midfield of the Barlow size.

[BringBackMadDog]

Martin is the size we need but I think there are better options. I believe we should not draft any player under 185 or 190 cm
Have to many of similar size eg Steven, Curren, Ledger, Wright, Newnes, Saunders, Webster etc.
Need players even if midfield of the Barlow size.

Webster is 188cm and Wright is 185cm.

[MCG-Unit]

Martin is a gun
Give him 2 x 700 & 2 x 800.
Money better spent development wise than if we spent the same coin on BJ.
He certainly fills a midfield gap.

If we get him without giving up pick 3 we have accelerated our development by a year at least.

Pay Martin $3M over 4 years - but not Goddard, who maybe stays for 4 x $650 ? And arrange a third party deal for him like Ess did to get the deal over the line.
Martin maybe some baggage, Goddard is also a gun, top 3 Ess B & F.

I would never do that trade. Rather use DP 3 on Matt Scharenberg 18yo 190cm 89kg - bigger bodied type, ready to go

[Stillwaiting]

He will stay at Tigers, his manager is just driving up his price

[plugger66]

Martin is a gun
Give him 2 x 700 & 2 x 800.
Money better spent development wise than if we spent the same coin on BJ.
He certainly fills a midfield gap.

If we get him without giving up pick 3 we have accelerated our development by a year at least.

Pay Martin $3M over 4 years - but not Goddard, who maybe stays for 4 x $650 ? And arrange a third party deal for him like Ess did to get the deal over the line.
Martin maybe some baggage, Goddard is also a gun, top 3 Ess B & F.

I would never do that trade. Rather use DP 3 on Matt Scharenberg 18yo 190cm 89kg - bigger bodied type, ready to go

One isnt proven and the other is. Pick 3 on a very good 22 year old is surely a great get if it was going to happen. reckon its probably 100 to one. Also the money on BJ would have been a waste in 6 years time. Unless Martin stuffs up in 6 years time he should be at his prime.

[maverick]

Martin is a gun
Give him 2 x 700 & 2 x 800.
Money better spent development wise than if we spent the same coin on BJ.
He certainly fills a midfield gap.

If we get him without giving up pick 3 we have accelerated our development by a year at least.

Pay Martin $3M over 4 years - but not Goddard, who maybe stays for 4 x $650 ? And arrange a third party deal for him like Ess did to get the deal over the line.
Martin maybe some baggage, Goddard is also a gun, top 3 Ess B & F.

I would never do that trade. Rather use DP 3 on Matt Scharenberg 18yo 190cm 89kg - bigger bodied type, ready to go

What trade are you talking about?

[spot on]

I don't think we should trade pick 3 for him, but I'm more than happy to pay a bit overs in terms of money to get him over to the saints. I doubt any other players on our list would demand big contracts atm. Most our talented young players are signed for a few years yet

[plugger66]

I don't think we should trade pick 3 for him, but I'm more than happy to pay a bit overs in terms of money to get him over to the saints. I doubt any other players on our list would demand big contracts atm. Most our talented young players are signed for a few years yet

Im unsure what people expect from pick 3 but a 200 game player who may average 30 goals a year and many disposals would be a pretty good get.

[maverick]

I don't think we should trade pick 3 for him, but I'm more than happy to pay a bit overs in terms of money to get him over to the saints. I doubt any other players on our list would demand big contracts atm. Most our talented young players are signed for a few years yet

Im unsure what people expect from pick 3 but a 200 game player who may average 30 goals a year and many disposals would be a pretty good get.

Agree, but we should get both, finishing down or very near the bottom gets you a second chance in the PSD, or the threat of it as we did all those years ago

[MCG-Unit]

Martin is a gun
Give him 2 x 700 & 2 x 800.
Money better spent development wise than if we spent the same coin on BJ.
He certainly fills a midfield gap.

If we get him without giving up pick 3 we have accelerated our development by a year at least.

Pay Martin $3M over 4 years - but not Goddard, who maybe stays for 4 x $650 ? And arrange a third party deal for him like Ess did to get the deal over the line.
Martin maybe some baggage, Goddard is also a gun, top 3 Ess B & F.

I would never do that trade. Rather use DP 3 on Matt Scharenberg 18yo 190cm 89kg - bigger bodied type, ready to go

What trade are you talking about?

The one you mentioned above - trading for Martin. I don't know how else you would get him without giving up DP 3 ? - which I wouldn't do.
And I wouldn't pay him $3M over 4 years

[plugger66]

I don't think we should trade pick 3 for him, but I'm more than happy to pay a bit overs in terms of money to get him over to the saints. I doubt any other players on our list would demand big contracts atm. Most our talented young players are signed for a few years yet

Im unsure what people expect from pick 3 but a 200 game player who may average 30 goals a year and many disposals would be a pretty good get.

Agree, but we should get both, finishing down or very near the bottom gets you a second chance in the PSD, or the threat of it as we did all those years ago

Pretty sure the 2 below us woulod take Martin if that happened especially now that Roos in at melbourne. I also expect the appointment of Roos to just about make certain melbourne get a priorty pick which will see us drop back to pick 4.

[bergholt]

Pay Martin $3M over 4 years - but not Goddard, who maybe stays for 4 x $650 ? And arrange a third party deal for him like Ess did to get the deal over the line.

Third party deal? Maybe hook him and Garlett up with Chips's connections, the Prez could pay for all their supply - that would have to save them a hundred grand a year.

[maverick]

Im unsure what people expect from pick 3 but a 200 game player who may average 30 goals a year and many disposals would be a pretty good get.

Agree, but we should get both, finishing down or very near the bottom gets you a second chance in the PSD, or the threat of it as we did all those years ago

Pretty sure the 2 below us woulod take Martin if that happened especially now that Roos in at melbourne. I also expect the appointment of Roos to just about make certain melbourne get a priorty pick which will see us drop back to pick 4.

Am sure you could structure GWS out of it, not sure about Melbourne.
Only way other than 2nd rounder and a Dal maybe?

[maverick]

Pay Martin $3M over 4 years - but not Goddard, who maybe stays for 4 x $650 ? And arrange a third party deal for him like Ess did to get the deal over the line.
Martin maybe some baggage, Goddard is also a gun, top 3 Ess B & F.

I would never do that trade. Rather use DP 3 on Matt Scharenberg 18yo 190cm 89kg - bigger bodied type, ready to go

What trade are you talking about?

The one you mentioned above - trading for Martin. I don't know how else you would get him without giving up DP 3 ? - which I wouldn't do.
And I wouldn't pay him $3M over 4 years

I didn't say to use DP 3, I wouldn't.
I would pay him the $$$$$ though....

[plugger66]

Agree, but we should get both, finishing down or very near the bottom gets you a second chance in the PSD, or the threat of it as we did all those years ago

Pretty sure the 2 below us woulod take Martin if that happened especially now that Roos in at melbourne. I also expect the appointment of Roos to just about make certain melbourne get a priorty pick which will see us drop back to pick 4.

Am sure you could structure GWS out of it, not sure about Melbourne.
Only way other than 2nd rounder and a Dal maybe?

Melbourne will get a priorty I reckon. Its whether its pick one or pick 18. Hopefully 18 and that may happen because the AFL may want GWS to keep pick one. If Melbourne get pick one and 3 then they have us covered for a guy like Martin. Even GWS may use pick one to get him especially if they got Franklin.

[Dis Believer]

Pretty sure the 2 below us woulod take Martin if that happened especially now that Roos in at melbourne. I also expect the appointment of Roos to just about make certain melbourne get a priorty pick which will see us drop back to pick 4.

Sorry, but on what basis do you come up with this drivel? On what grounds does the appointment of a coach entitle a club to a priority pick? What numerical value is assigned to this in the AFL's secret formula for priority picks? And exactly how many more free hits at the top 5 picks is Melbourne entitled to ??

[maverick]

Pretty sure the 2 below us woulod take Martin if that happened especially now that Roos in at melbourne. I also expect the appointment of Roos to just about make certain melbourne get a priorty pick which will see us drop back to pick 4.

Am sure you could structure GWS out of it, not sure about Melbourne.
Only way other than 2nd rounder and a Dal maybe?

Melbourne will get a priorty I reckon. Its whether its pick one or pick 18. Hopefully 18 and that may happen because the AFL may want GWS to keep pick one. If Melbourne get pick one and 3 then they have us covered for a guy like Martin. Even GWS may use pick one to get him especially if they got Franklin.

He won't be in the national draft only pre season draft

[defacto]

Pretty sure the 2 below us woulod take Martin if that happened especially now that Roos in at melbourne. I also expect the appointment of Roos to just about make certain melbourne get a priorty pick which will see us drop back to pick 4.

ROFL you havent heard of the PSD have you?

[Sobraz]

Sorry, but on what basis do you come up with this drivel? On what grounds does the appointment of a coach entitle a club to a priority pick? What numerical value is assigned to this in the AFL's secret formula for priority picks? And exactly how many more free hits at the top 5 picks is Melbourne entitled to ??

The AFL are appointing this coach, not Melbourne, and this coach will dictate to the AFL the terms in which he'll join... If Roos' appointment hinges on a PP, take it to the bank, they'll get it... And theres every chance that's one of his many provisos... first being $$$$'s...

[plugger66]

Pretty sure the 2 below us woulod take Martin if that happened especially now that Roos in at melbourne. I also expect the appointment of Roos to just about make certain melbourne get a priorty pick which will see us drop back to pick 4.

ROFL you havent heard of the PSD have you?

Pretty sure thats why I mantioned those 2 sides and why they may get him over us. Im sure you now understand that.

[plugger66]

Pretty sure the 2 below us woulod take Martin if that happened especially now that Roos in at melbourne. I also expect the appointment of Roos to just about make certain melbourne get a priorty pick which will see us drop back to pick 4.

Sorry, but on what basis do you come up with this drivel? On what grounds does the appointment of a coach entitle a club to a priority pick? What numerical value is assigned to this in the AFL's secret formula for priority picks? And exactly how many more free hits at the top 5 picks is Melbourne entitled to ??

Roos is an AFL appointment. make no mistake about that. The AFL will give them a priorty pick because they cant have basket cases in the AFL. The question is whether its before or after round one. IMO of course.

[MCG-Unit]

Martin is a gun
Give him 2 x 700 & 2 x 800.
Money better spent development wise than if we spent the same coin on BJ.
He certainly fills a midfield gap.

If we get him without giving up pick 3 we have accelerated our development by a year at least.

Pay Martin $3M over 4 years - but not Goddard, who maybe stays for 4 x $650 ? And arrange a third party deal for him like Ess did to get the deal over the line.
Martin maybe some baggage, Goddard is also a gun, top 3 Ess B & F.

I would never do that trade. Rather use DP 3 on Matt Scharenberg 18yo 190cm 89kg - bigger bodied type, ready to go

One isnt proven and the other is. Pick 3 on a very good 22 year old is surely a great get if it was going to happen. reckon its probably 100 to one. Also the money on BJ would have been a waste in 6 years time. Unless Martin stuffs up in 6 years time he should be at his prime.

Yep Martin is proven, Scharenberg not yet. I would still balk at the supposed $ asking price and giving up DP3. Also many supporters don't like to lose fave sons who are still contributing, or trading high draft picks - and you might need to give up one or both for that deal.

Personally I don't think they will trade 1st or 2nd DP this year - unless it's a massive win for the Saints.

[MCG-Unit]

Pay Martin $3M over 4 years - but not Goddard, who maybe stays for 4 x $650 ? And arrange a third party deal for him like Ess did to get the deal over the line.

Third party deal? Maybe hook him and Garlett up with Chips's connections, the Prez could pay for all their supply - that would have to save them a hundred grand a year.

Ha ha I meant the third party deal Ess did with Toll for Goddard 'to get him over the line' - which they tried to deny.

The rest I'm not sure what you mean - Fisher's connections? Dayle Garlett has his problems - cost him being drafted last year. Apparently this year a club sent reps to interview him after a WAFL match, to be told he was not available, feeling unwell..........

[plugger66]

Pay Martin $3M over 4 years - but not Goddard, who maybe stays for 4 x $650 ? And arrange a third party deal for him like Ess did to get the deal over the line.
Martin maybe some baggage, Goddard is also a gun, top 3 Ess B & F.

I would never do that trade. Rather use DP 3 on Matt Scharenberg 18yo 190cm 89kg - bigger bodied type, ready to go

One isnt proven and the other is. Pick 3 on a very good 22 year old is surely a great get if it was going to happen. reckon its probably 100 to one. Also the money on BJ would have been a waste in 6 years time. Unless Martin stuffs up in 6 years time he should be at his prime.

Yep Martin is proven, Scharenberg not yet. I would still balk at the supposed $ asking price and giving up DP3. Also many supporters don't like to lose fave sons who are still contributing, or trading high draft picks - and you might need to give up one or both for that deal.

Personally I don't think they will trade 1st or 2nd DP this year - unless it's a massive win for the Saints.

Isnt it a massive win getting a player of his ability.

[spot on]

Of we were to receive there 2nd round pick also that would be good