It will be a travesty if he is delisted. A mob like Collingwood will pick him up for free and make him a huge star.
He has an AFL ready physique and seems to have good skills and an ability to find the ball. Not to mention the couple of years we've put into developing him. I can only hope that he is retained and becomes an integral part of our side in years to come...............or is used as part of a trade to lure a big backman to the club.
Just please for the love of god dont let him go for nothing
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Re: Ledger must be kept!
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Re: Ledger must be kept!
should step up next year as a 22 year old....
Could see him being good.
Certainly should not be cut lose right now! Needs at least 1 more season
I recon there are 5 players (outside the retirees) I would rather see delisted before Ledger
Could see him being good.
Certainly should not be cut lose right now! Needs at least 1 more season
I recon there are 5 players (outside the retirees) I would rather see delisted before Ledger
Re: Ledger must be kept!
can you name them?SuperDuper wrote:should step up next year as a 22 year old....
Could see him being good.
Certainly should not be cut lose right now! Needs at least 1 more season
I recon there are 5 players (outside the retirees) I would rather see delisted before Ledger
Re: Ledger must be kept!
Problem is the list manager has literally contracted everyone else but Ledger. Not great signs really even though he has done well in the last 2 matches.
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Re: Ledger must be kept!
We all know Ledger had some things to work on - but isn't that what development is all about?
At least he is a midfielder (both inside and outside, at that) who can win his own ball - not another small forward pocket - so he brings something different to the table.
He combines well and has quick hands - and he doesn't appear to be just kicking and hoping; he seems to be making an effort to look for someone every time he kicks.
So he's on the right track.
At least he is a midfielder (both inside and outside, at that) who can win his own ball - not another small forward pocket - so he brings something different to the table.
He combines well and has quick hands - and he doesn't appear to be just kicking and hoping; he seems to be making an effort to look for someone every time he kicks.
So he's on the right track.
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Re: Ledger must be kept!
I'll say upfront that my observations of Tom are from the not necessarily ideal location of the boundary fence at TBBO, so you miss what happens on the far side of the ground in a pack. What I had seen this year was a kid that was hard at the contest with the innate ability to find the ball in a pack. A lot. Having said that, his disposal appeared deplorable, and you would see him stationery or at walking pace immediately after nearly every contest.
He has looked a different player in the past two AFL games. The area of greatest difference is disposal. I don't know if he has been working on it (one would assume so), but he appeared to be making a conscious effort to identify a target and hit that target. I only observed on instance yesterday where he seemed to simply fire a random handpass out a pack to no-one in particular.
Given how much he can find the pill, I would keep him another year minimum, purely based on his age and the development we have already put in. If he takes his training seriously (apparently an issue) I think his improvement could be dramatic.
He has looked a different player in the past two AFL games. The area of greatest difference is disposal. I don't know if he has been working on it (one would assume so), but he appeared to be making a conscious effort to identify a target and hit that target. I only observed on instance yesterday where he seemed to simply fire a random handpass out a pack to no-one in particular.
Given how much he can find the pill, I would keep him another year minimum, purely based on his age and the development we have already put in. If he takes his training seriously (apparently an issue) I think his improvement could be dramatic.
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Re: Ledger must be kept!
correct. And if Pelcan is to be taken at his word, these games aren't junk time games, as all of next year will be a development year and possibly worse than this year.samoht wrote:We all know Ledger had some things to work on - but isn't that what development is all about?
If the club didn't want to develop Ledger why waste the spot on him and use it for one of the other players. Only other reason would be value for trade, but if he looks good enough to be on a list why not the Saints?
For what I had seen thought it blazed away a bit with poor kicking and disposal. As Eastern says, seems to be more comfortable in the AFL, but as noted by others, better playing surface and better conditions helpssamoht wrote:At least he is a midfielder (both inside and outside, at that) who can win his own ball - not another small forward pocket - so he brings something different to the table.
samoht wrote:He combines well and has quick hands - and he doesn't appear to be just kicking and hoping; he seems to be making an effort to look for someone every time he kicks.
So he's on the right track.
As above better conditions, higher quality players making better positions, GC poor, Freo or Peel Thunder bruise free and guarding zones made it easier for everyone. Not taking anything away, but would be interesting to see him against half decent opposition.
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Re: Ledger must be kept!
Agreed.samoht wrote: He combines well and has quick hands - and he doesn't appear to be just kicking and hoping; he seems to be making an effort to look for someone every time he kicks.
So he's on the right track.
And he makes good decisions. Has a footy brain.