Sign up Watters to 2016

[One Eyed Saint]

If we want to attract ANY great player. assistant coach or administrator to our club we need to have certainty over the coach for the next 3 years.

If we want to retain sponsors sign him up

The reality is that by 2016 we will still only be in the bottom 4-6 clubs as the rebuild of the drafting calamity of the last 5 years is going to take at least til then

If things are still crap by then change the coach who will inherit a playing list on the verge of possible finals

Even if Watters is a crap coach, Its unlikely he'll be around long enough to see us win a flag. As long as we recruit well over the next 2-3 years and have some half decent player development then does it really matter who our coach is?

If we were to sack Watters at a time where we are at our lowest point what message would that send?

For the next 3 years the most important people at St Kilda are the recruiting staff and development coaches. In reality until we properly rejuvenate our list Watters role is more of a figurehead and developer of the kids than anything else

[gringo]

Well said. Stability is more important than anything in the bad times.

[ShanghaiSaint]

If we want to attract ANY great player. assistant coach or administrator to our club we need to have certainty over the coach for the next 3 years.

If we want to retain sponsors sign him up

The reality is that by 2016 we will still only be in the bottom 4-6 clubs as the rebuild of the drafting calamity of the last 5 years is going to take at least til then

If things are still crap by then change the coach who will inherit a playing list on the verge of possible finals

Even if Watters is a crap coach, Its unlikely he'll be around long enough to see us win a flag. As long as we recruit well over the next 2-3 years and have some half decent player development then does it really matter who our coach is?

If we were to sack Watters at a time where we are at our lowest point what message would that send?

For the next 3 years the most important people at St Kilda are the recruiting staff and development coaches. In reality until we properly rejuvenate our list Watters role is more of a figurehead and developer of the kids than anything else

agree I support Watters... happy with how he's going under the circumstances this year. very happy to see some of our new young blokes showing their stuff. Watters till 2016.

[Teflon]

Agree One Eye.

Im only praying Watters IS the development guru. In saying that, we do also need to educate young players on game sense/tactics and strategy and therefore Watters must be surrounded by top notch assistants and we need to overhaul current ones.

[andrewg]

Agree.

Lets back him.....

[thejiggingsaint]

I think he'll be our next premiership coach!

[Greg T]

Who said sack him?
Let him finish his current contract and move him on.
Sponsors etc will always want to be aboard an afl club .
Don't agree with a contract extension at all....IMO

[bobmurray]

It's impossible to rate Watters as a coach due to the crap list he inherited from Lyin..

Watters has to waste his coaching career trying to rebuild a competitive team for the St Kilda football club.

chances are he'll get the empty once the turnaround is obvious.. very unlucky in his timing for a senior coaching job..

[ShanghaiSaint]

Who said sack him?
Let him finish his current contract and move him on.
Sponsors etc will always want to be aboard an afl club .
Don't agree with a contract extension at all....IMO

Move on to who? so we start again? yeh great idea Greg.. lets just start a rotational coaching job at the saints.

[Greg T]

It's impossible to rate Watters as a coach due to the crap list he inherited from Lyin..

Watters has to waste his coaching career trying to rebuild a competitive team for the St Kilda football club.

chances are he'll get the empty once the turnaround is obvious.. very unlucky in his timing for a senior coaching job..

Isn't that the challenge of any coach to build a successful team.?
The coaches that can't do that can't coach.
So your saying he's a dill for taking the job on in the first place?
He would go known what he was walking into....
That was his challenge!

[BigMart]

How did you rate Neeld?

He had a worse list

[vacuous space]

You know what tends to attract supporters, sponsors and the admiration and respect of people in the industry? Winning. If Watters doesn't start doing it soon, stability will be the next guy's problem.

1-7 in single-digit games. The one we blew a big lead. I don't care how bad the list is, if the games are close, you should win some of them.

[Cairnsman]

How did you rate Neeld?

He had a worse list

One day I'd actually like to have a beer with you. You seem like so much fun.

[Spinner]

Give him a 10 year contact... On better pay.

[bobmurray]

It's impossible to rate Watters as a coach due to the crap list he inherited from Lyin..

Watters has to waste his coaching career trying to rebuild a competitive team for the St Kilda football club.

chances are he'll get the empty once the turnaround is obvious.. very unlucky in his timing for a senior coaching job..

Isn't that the challenge of any coach to build a successful team.?
The coaches that can't do that can't coach.
So your saying he's a dill for taking the job on in the first place?
He would go known what he was walking into....
That was his challenge!

What I am saying is he needs to rebuild, that takes time, the players he needs are not always available the year you really need them, that is another of his challenges.

it is so easy on a forum to fix the teams issues, it's not as easy in reality, I hope you lot can deal with that .

[gringo]

Give him 2 tall back as well might help.

[Greg T]

Who said sack him?
Let him finish his current contract and move him on.
Sponsors etc will always want to be aboard an afl club .
Don't agree with a contract extension at all....IMO

Move on to who? so we start again? yeh great idea Greg.. lets just start a rotational coaching job at the saints.

Sorry mate, if these no significant improvement next year at the end of his contact,
Go again. If there is , then keep him
Who knows who will be available.
It's all part of he cycle...IMO
They weren't in a screaming hurry to re sign RL.

[plugger66]

Dont sack but for gods ake dont sign untilt least this time nect year.

[Bluthy]

It's impossible to rate Watters as a coach due to the crap list he inherited from Lyin..

Watters has to waste his coaching career trying to rebuild a competitive team for the St Kilda football club.

chances are he'll get the empty once the turnaround is obvious.. very unlucky in his timing for a senior coaching job..

Isn't that the challenge of any coach to build a successful team.?
The coaches that can't do that can't coach.
So your saying he's a dill for taking the job on in the first place?
He would go known what he was walking into....
That was his challenge!

What I am saying is he needs to rebuild, that takes time, the players he needs are not always available the year you really need them, that is another of his challenges.

it is so easy on a forum to fix the teams issues, it's not as easy in reality, I hope you lot can deal with that .

Well said. How long have Richmond, Melbourne, North, Brisbane, Port Adelaide been rebuilding? We just missed out on finals last year and now we've had one genuinely bad year. Watters needs 5 years to build the squad the way HE wants not this mish-mash he's inherited.

[southernsaint]

Stability is the key have a bit of faith, no coach would have done better

[saintspremiers]

Dont sack but for gods ake dont sign untilt least this time nect year.

Exactly. He may well be a dud coach. We wil have a much better idea in 12 months. It's not like he'll be inundated with job offers at the moment.....

[Hurricane]

I totally agree.

Watters appears to have the faith of the players and is only very new to the caper. Lets face it nobody could be doing much better at this stage. Changing coaches at this stage will do more harm than good. Way more.

BANG BANG

[spert]

You know what tends to attract supporters, sponsors and the admiration and respect of people in the industry? Winning. If Watters doesn't start doing it soon, stability will be the next guy's problem.

1-7 in single-digit games. The one we blew a big lead. I don't care how bad the list is, if the games are close, you should win some of them.

Have to agree somewhat..sponsors and potential members don't jump on board a long term project, they want to jump on board winners. This is the big time, not junior footy.

[samuraisaint]

We need to get some fresh blood in at board level. Hey, I hear there may be some people available from one of the "Winner" power clubs.

[Kernal75]

Did Richmond sack Hardwick at the end of his first contract when they were deplorable, or Hawthorn with Clarkson? No, they backed them in and understood that a rebuild takes time. Sacking a coach during a rebuild is nothing but counter productive. Stick by Watters and let him have a crack at it properly!!