Dear oh dear Nick....

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Re: Dear oh dear Nick....

Post: # 1363801Post sunsaint »

mr six o'clock wrote:disappointing but his knee's must be rooted from the long leads followed by heavy falls to the ground thanks to the hospital passes he is always on the end of .

If we had a couple of mid-fielders who could actually put the ball on his chest he may have allot lease stress on his knee's !

How often do you see him run to position , only to have a high ball delivered . If he marks the ball high overhead he often lands on the ground with straight legs . this puts enormous pressure on his joints , often his opponents weight comes down on them as well .
This year i've seen him get up gingerly on many occasion's .

We are desperate for players with better foot skills .
on leads ...
he runs underneath the ball, & chooses to attempt the mark at the highest point, making an easy spoil for defenders
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Re: Dear oh dear Nick....

Post: # 1363829Post Greg T »

Nick just had a bad kicking night,
His legs not right anyway....
I think Rhys's should line up on the forward line somewhere just to help out...
I'm sure we an cut him some slack for once ...he's had a good year...


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Post: # 1363883Post paulski »

Is an absolute champion, who is letting down the team he captains!!!

Thought he overcame the yips last year, but he's kicked shite this year!

Doesn't seem to kick the real important ones we need!!


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Post: # 1363924Post plugger66 »

paulski wrote:Is an absolute champion, who is letting down the team he captains!!!

Thought he overcame the yips last year, but he's kicked shite this year!

Doesn't seem to kick the real important ones we need!!

Or do you only remember the important ones he misses?


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Post: # 1363928Post Hoges »

nicks goal scoring over last few years as a % of total scoring kicks below:

2013 : G 37 - B 22 - 62%

2012 : G 47 - B 31 - 61%

2011 : G 36 - B 31 - 53%

2010 : G 39 - B 34 - 53%


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Re: Dear oh dear Nick....

Post: # 1363930Post Mr Magic »

Hoges wrote:nicks goal scoring over last few years as a % of total scoring kicks below:

2013 : G 37 - B 22 - 62%

2012 : G 47 - B 31 - 61%

2011 : G 36 - B 31 - 53%

2010 : G 39 - B 34 - 53%
But you haven't included the ones he misses completely
those that go out of bounds
those that drop short
those he gets on the wing
those he gets on the backline

If you include all of those in the stats they'll show that he is a shocking kick at goal and should never have captained our Club because of it.


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Post: # 1363990Post QuestionOfAccuracy »

I would say that he has actually had way fewer complete shanks this year (i.e. ones that miss the goals entirely.)

I would argue that he shouldn't be played at the minute. He looks really proppy at times, and I think thats had an effect on his set shot kicking as well (obviously).


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Tried to convey two years ago that he runs around with the agility of a man with a smashed body (understandably)

Shot down, and his ability was used to try and belittle the comment....

Fact is, his knee is rooted and if it weren't for his extraordinary courage, commitment, professionalism and above all Talent..... His body would have caused retirement.... He can run in straight lines, huge engine... But next to Zero agility.....

Watch him move in 2004-2009 and compare it to now,..... Different player, especially off th ground


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BigMart wrote:Tried to convey two years ago that he runs around with the agility of a man with a smashed body (understandably)

Shot down, and his ability was used to try and belittle the comment....

Fact is, his knee is rooted and if it weren't for his extraordinary courage, commitment, professionalism and above all Talent..... His body would have caused retirement.... He can run in straight lines, huge engine... But next to Zero agility.....

Watch him move in 2004-2009 and compare it to now,..... Different player, especially off th ground

Shot down because after one game in 2012 you actually said he moved like a super rules player. yes a super rules player and worst of all you said this from watching on TV. Now i watch plenty of games on TV but you must have a special screen because my screen shows mostly close ups and certainly doesnt show multilple leads that Rooy is renowned for.

And asmazingly you didnt mention any of this half way through the year. You are very weak in your opinions and always wait for the round when one silly comment might be shown to be true just for that week. And he moves differently to those early years. Who would guess that. Must only be you to have such knowledge. Lets get this straight Rooy has never moved anything like a super rules player and actually moved very well for a 30 year old player this year. Round one from TV Pfft.


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Post: # 1364243Post dragit »

C'mon Marto, his form for 10+ rounds this year has equalled his very best form of the past, yes his body probably doesn't let him do it for the whole season, but it didn't 5 years ago either.


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Post: # 1364248Post BigMart »

2009 he was probably the most dominant player in the comp (Ablett aside who is not normal).... 2008-R3 2010 he was awesome.

Not sure you've remembered his past as accurately as you could.... Check out his numbers 2004-2009... Mind boggling

Now he's probably in the best 30 in the comp... Then he was in the best 3.....

He is still great..... Not bad for a man in pain...... He was a freak without rooted knees..


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Post: # 1364260Post dragit »

BigMart wrote:2009 he was probably the most dominant player in the comp (Ablett aside who is not normal).... 2008-R3 2010 he was awesome.

Not sure you've remembered his past as accurately as you could.... Check out his numbers 2004-2009... Mind boggling

Now he's probably in the best 30 in the comp... Then he was in the best 3.....

He is still great..... Not bad for a man in pain...... He was a freak without rooted knees..
Well, even after a few ordinary weeks now his numbers well & truly stack up to 2010… just behind 2009.

The thing is though, even in those dominant years, I felt that he was starting to fade as the season went on… his knees were playing up even then… he played some amazing finals through sheer will power but if he had entered either grand final like he did the start of the season, we would have won IMO.

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?P ... ing%20Desc


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Post: # 1364262Post plugger66 »

dragit wrote:
BigMart wrote:2009 he was probably the most dominant player in the comp (Ablett aside who is not normal).... 2008-R3 2010 he was awesome.

Not sure you've remembered his past as accurately as you could.... Check out his numbers 2004-2009... Mind boggling

Now he's probably in the best 30 in the comp... Then he was in the best 3.....

He is still great..... Not bad for a man in pain...... He was a freak without rooted knees..
Well, even after a few ordinary weeks now his numbers well & truly stack up to 2010… just behind 2009.

The thing is though, even in those dominant years, I felt that he was starting to fade as the season went on… his knees were playing up even then… he played some amazing finals through sheer will power but if he had entered either grand final like he did the start of the season, we would have won IMO.

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?P ... ing%20Desc

Stats wont matter on this occasion.


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Post: # 1364292Post Con Gorozidis »

Why not not just rest him up for next year?
We want to finish 3rd last anyway. We may as well prolong his career.
No point sending him and damaging him now the season is shot. We will learn more about our list with him out for a few weeks anyway.
Seriously why play him in August?
Lets reboot him for next year.


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Post: # 1364308Post BigMart »

He was AA captain in 2009

Not sure his exact numbers, but his effect of games was huge....

His last two ordinary games
37 Possesions
22 marks
10 shots at goal.... Unfortunately 3g7b


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