Stanley

[busso mick]

I don't think he is going to make it...

I don't think he thinks he is going to make it...

To quote Henry Ford : “Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.”

[maverick]

I actually thought he went alright back, would have persevered myself.

[SainterK]

I don't think he is going to make it...

I don't think he thinks he is going to make it...

To quote Henry Ford : “Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.”

Wise...

[BigMart]

He's never really played in the ruck.... As a #1

He is a rare commodity in that he has potential to be a ruck/fwd which allows a team to play 2 Ruckman. Which is advantage.

You won't have a KPP playing in the ruck and getting smashed or a lumbering Ruckman playing fwd and being a liability...

The McEvoy/Stanley combination would be my future

[Con Gorozidis]

Big Mart!
You need to give up on the Stanley as a big gun blonde fwd fantasy.

Just a quick comparison - Rhys has 21 career goals.
Jeremey Cameron is only 20 and already has 63.
NicNat is primarily a ruckman and has 61 already.

I just cant see someone flicking a switch on Rhys as a goal kicker and fwd.

Id really like to see Rhys given extended time in the ruck. I reckon he is a really good modern ruckman. He was drafted after playing as a Ruck at senior SANFL level at 17!

How we juggle our 3 young ruckmen I have no idea!

Any suggestions anyone?

[ROLS-LEE]

Big Mart!
You need to give up on the Stanley as a big gun blonde fwd fantasy.

Just a quick comparison - Rhys has 21 career goals.
Jeremey Cameron is only 20 and already has 63.
NicNat is primarily a ruckman and has 61 already.

I just cant see someone flicking a switch on Rhys as a goal kicker and fwd.

Id really like to see Rhys given extended time in the ruck. I reckon he is a really good modern ruckman. He was drafted after playing as a Ruck at senior SANFL level at 17!

How we juggle our 3 young ruckmen I have no idea!

Any suggestions anyone?

Can he lose the ruck duel, then run back in defence and take marks like our current no#1 ruckmen

[plugger66]

Big Mart!
You need to give up on the Stanley as a big gun blonde fwd fantasy.

Just a quick comparison - Rhys has 21 career goals.
Jeremey Cameron is only 20 and already has 63.
NicNat is primarily a ruckman and has 61 already.

I just cant see someone flicking a switch on Rhys as a goal kicker and fwd.

Id really like to see Rhys given extended time in the ruck. I reckon he is a really good modern ruckman. He was drafted after playing as a Ruck at senior SANFL level at 17!

How we juggle our 3 young ruckmen I have no idea!

Any suggestions anyone?

Can he lose the ruck duel, then run back in defence and take marks like our current no#1 ruckmen

Ben wins about 40% he contests but dont let that stop you just saying he loses the ruck duel. Obviously you dont rate our coach he keeps selecting him every single week and will baring injury for the rest of this year and into the future.

[BigMart]

I don't care what colour his hair is.... What I do want is a back up Ruckman/fwd who can support both Ben and Spencer White.

He's better than Hickey.... Who I've never seen take a mark fwd, or trouble the scorers

[ljpoyz]

Stanley is a better prospect down back, hope he plays some more down there.

[gringo]

Big Mart!
You need to give up on the Stanley as a big gun blonde fwd fantasy.

Just a quick comparison - Rhys has 21 career goals.
Jeremey Cameron is only 20 and already has 63.
NicNat is primarily a ruckman and has 61 already.

I just cant see someone flicking a switch on Rhys as a goal kicker and fwd.

Id really like to see Rhys given extended time in the ruck. I reckon he is a really good modern ruckman. He was drafted after playing as a Ruck at senior SANFL level at 17!

How we juggle our 3 young ruckmen I have no idea!

Any suggestions anyone?

Impossible to compare them. Nick nat was played from day one and is miles ahead of Rhys in development, is a freak talent and has been given licence to attack. Cameron is again being played from day one as a key forward. Rhys has been given no continuity, has been expected to play roles that don't suit him and was never given any extended time anywhere long enough to adjust.

He should be modelled on Tippett- similar size and physique and could be a very handy ruck forward type. Leigh Brown type around the ground ruck forwards will get even handier with limited rotations.

[The Saintsational Man]

I think everyone needs to relax on this kid, he's still only 22 after all.....give him a few more seasons & games, before we start putting nails in the coffin.

His attributes are incredible, but taller players tend to take longer to find themselves @ the top level, he's still gowing into his frame.

I still believe this kid's going to be something great.

[Dr Spaceman]

Not writing the kid off at all.

He would have approached this season like he has the last few; wondering when his hamstring was going to twang. Hopefully those issues are in the past and that he can mentally accept they are in the past. If that's the case then he can turn his attention to trying to impose his impressively athletic frame in a more intimidating manner.

He may still fail of course, but let's not give up on him just yet.

[ROLS-LEE]

Big Mart!
You need to give up on the Stanley as a big gun blonde fwd fantasy.

Just a quick comparison - Rhys has 21 career goals.
Jeremey Cameron is only 20 and already has 63.
NicNat is primarily a ruckman and has 61 already.

I just cant see someone flicking a switch on Rhys as a goal kicker and fwd.

Id really like to see Rhys given extended time in the ruck. I reckon he is a really good modern ruckman. He was drafted after playing as a Ruck at senior SANFL level at 17!

How we juggle our 3 young ruckmen I have no idea!

Any suggestions anyone?

Can he lose the ruck duel, then run back in defence and take marks like our current no#1 ruckmen

Ben wins about 40% he contests but dont let that stop you just saying he loses the ruck duel. Obviously you dont rate our coach he keeps selecting him every single week and will baring injury for the rest of this year and into the future.

1 Will Minson WB 587 41.9
2 Todd Goldstein NMFC 548 39.1
3 Mark Jamar MELB 298 33.1
4 Robert Warnock CARL 191 31.8
5 Matthew Leuenberger BL 353 29.4
6 Sam Jacobs ADEL 398 28.4
7 Dean Cox WCE 383 27.4
8 Mike Pyke SYD 378 27
8 Dawson Simpson GEEL 81 27
10 Nic Naitanui WCE 234 26 7
11 Shane Mumford SYD 279 25.4
12 Zac Clarke FRE 174 24.9
13 Jonathan Giles GWS 344 24.6
14 Tom Nicholls GCFC 122 24.4
15 Jake Spencer MELB 73 24.3
15 Matthew Kreuzer CARL 267 24.3
17 Orren Stephenson RICH 97 24.2
18 Patrick Ryder ESS 236 23.6
19 Darren Jolly COLL 209 23.2
20 Matthew Lobbe PORT 248 22.5
21 Tom Bellchambers ESS 270 22.5
22 Max Bailey HAW 245 22.3
23 Jonathon Ceglar HAW 22 22
23 Jonathon Griffin FRE 154 22
25 Trent West GEEL 239 21.7
26 Ivan Maric RICH 237 21.5
27 Ben Hudson COLL 106 21.2
28 Ben McEvoy STK 281 20.1
29 Jarrad Redden PORT 119 19.8
30 David Hille ESS 58 19.3
31 Zac Smith GCFC 154 19.2
32 Dean Brogan GWS 89 17.8
33 Billy Longer BL 70 17.5
34 Brent Renouf PORT 65 16.2
35 David Hale HAW 209 16.1
36 Max Gawn MELB 127 15.9
37 Shaun Hampson CARL 70 11.7
38 Aaron Sandilands FRE 11 11
39 Tom Hickey STK 64 10.7

Stats courtesy from http://www.afl.com.au/stats/

Ben being our no1 ruckmen and ranking 28 overall for hitouts is not good. But wait he is young and will improve right.
That Tom Nicholls is doing ok for a 21year old.

[plugger66]

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Can he lose the ruck duel, then run back in defence and take marks like our current no#1 ruckmen

Ben wins about 40% he contests but dont let that stop you just saying he loses the ruck duel. Obviously you dont rate our coach he keeps selecting him every single week and will baring injury for the rest of this year and into the future.

1 Will Minson WB 587 41.9
2 Todd Goldstein NMFC 548 39.1
3 Mark Jamar MELB 298 33.1
4 Robert Warnock CARL 191 31.8
5 Matthew Leuenberger BL 353 29.4
6 Sam Jacobs ADEL 398 28.4
7 Dean Cox WCE 383 27.4
8 Mike Pyke SYD 378 27
8 Dawson Simpson GEEL 81 27
10 Nic Naitanui WCE 234 26 7
11 Shane Mumford SYD 279 25.4
12 Zac Clarke FRE 174 24.9
13 Jonathan Giles GWS 344 24.6
14 Tom Nicholls GCFC 122 24.4
15 Jake Spencer MELB 73 24.3
15 Matthew Kreuzer CARL 267 24.3
17 Orren Stephenson RICH 97 24.2
18 Patrick Ryder ESS 236 23.6
19 Darren Jolly COLL 209 23.2
20 Matthew Lobbe PORT 248 22.5
21 Tom Bellchambers ESS 270 22.5
22 Max Bailey HAW 245 22.3
23 Jonathon Ceglar HAW 22 22
23 Jonathon Griffin FRE 154 22
25 Trent West GEEL 239 21.7
26 Ivan Maric RICH 237 21.5
27 Ben Hudson COLL 106 21.2
28 Ben McEvoy STK 281 20.1
29 Jarrad Redden PORT 119 19.8
30 David Hille ESS 58 19.3
31 Zac Smith GCFC 154 19.2
32 Dean Brogan GWS 89 17.8
33 Billy Longer BL 70 17.5
34 Brent Renouf PORT 65 16.2
35 David Hale HAW 209 16.1
36 Max Gawn MELB 127 15.9
37 Shaun Hampson CARL 70 11.7
38 Aaron Sandilands FRE 11 11
39 Tom Hickey STK 64 10.7

Stats courtesy from http://www.afl.com.au/stats/

Ben being our no1 ruckmen and ranking 28 overall for hitouts is not good. But wait he is young and will improve right.
That Tom Nicholls is doing ok for a 21year old.

Its amazing i thought you said he didnt win hit outs. Im still going with 40% of hit outs. What i did notice though of interest but of course it wont matter to you is WB are crap, North have won 6 out of 14, melbourne are crapier and Warnock is in the seconds. And Brisbane and Adelaide arent much good either. I now understand why it is so important to have a good tap ruckman. What about we trade Ben for Warnock. At least sandy will then have a good tap ruckman who will have a fantastic average. Vital to be a top side as shown by the first 7 on your list.

[gringo]

I don't rate rucks but a decent one can make the difference, Jolly made a huge difference to Collingwood and Sydney have two guys that can hold down the ruck and be competitive. Mc Evoy has to get better no doubt but he probably does still have time. Minson was a massive spud for years.

[st_Trav_ofWA]

Rhys in my opinion needs to take a big hit during a game and have the bloke who hits him come off second best ... to me he doesnt quiet believe he has the atributes to be dominant ... he doesnt have the strut that a kid his size would normally have in the AFL , in my opinion he needs some more self belief and develop a bit more agro ...at the moment i think he is still just thankful to get a game where as at this stage he should be expecting a game every week and looking at making an impact ...

[Old Mate]

In a recent interview Steven said Stanley is the strongest guy at the club, and we know he's quick and agile. His skills are okay although his awareness is questionable. He certainly has enough attributes to be a dominant tall of the game. Agree he lacks confidence.

[creepypolar]

In a recent interview Steven said Stanley is the strongest guy at the club, and we know he's quick and agile. His skills are okay although his awareness is questionable. He certainly has enough attributes to be a dominant tall of the game. Agree he lacks confidence.

Yup also in the interview with Ben McEvoy, he himself said that Rhy benches 20kgs more than him. (better yet it was my question but thats for another day )

[Old Mate]

Ha ha nice creepy. For interests sake what do they bench?

[Con Gorozidis]

Ha ha nice creepy. For interests sake what do they bench?

i think Fraser had a Club record around the 170kg mark?

im guessing rhys goes 140 and ben 120

[Old Mate]

Ha ha nice creepy. For interests sake what do they bench?

i think Fraser had a Club record around the 170kg mark?

im guessing rhys goes 140 and ben 120

Lightweight baby !

[spert]

GOP..

[kimberly saint]

If it counts for much watters was on WA radio other day said they hoped he would be a forward in years to come and was plugging a hole down back at present

[Con Gorozidis]

If it counts for much watters was on WA radio other day said they hoped he would be a forward in years to come and was plugging a hole down back at present

Well it does count yes cos he is THE coach.

But the word 'hope' never fills me with confidence.

I think we have 3 ruckmen who are the same age - so are spending the years 'hoping' that Rhys is a forward.

I believe we are best facing the fact now that we have 3 Ruckmen of the same age rather than 'hoping' something else is true.

Lets face the facts and get a strategy to deal with it. Just 'hoping' something else just springs out of nowhere is rubbish.

They can close their eyes and 'hope' he becomes a fwd all day and night - but it wont make it come true.

[The Redeemer]

He will be fine and this crappy chat about him not making it is similar to the Dogs fans chatter about Jones and Roughead not making it.

All three will be good players and have played less than 50 games.