Forum Makeover - TOPIC RE-OPENED FOR REVIEW

[dragit]

I've decided how this forum should be run, so save your breath from discussion & suggestions, we're doing it my way.

No worries, all clear.

[BakesFan]

That is some Master Baiting right there, dragit..... someone should report you!

[dragit]

That is some Master Baiting right there, dragit..... someone should report you!

Apologies, I tried to go back and edit it, but I can't.

[stinger]

judging by their posts..a few posers seem to be under a misapprehension.....


simon posted this on this thread..and i quote...

"May I delete it or alter it?

If you are not willing for it to be deleted or altered, then I shall issue you with a warning."


...he never said that we would have to amend the post..or cop a warning......he was asking consent to do it himself.....

..so why would we need an ability to amend the post ourselves...

...my poblem was if a poster..and one has....refuses to give consent and would prefer to cop a warning instead...the mods should then reserve the right to delete or amend the post without consent....imho..that is...

[plugger66]

judging by their posts..a few posers seem to be under a misapprehension.....


simon posted this on this thread..and i quote...

"May I delete it or alter it?

If you are not willing for it to be deleted or altered, then I shall issue you with a warning."


...he never said that we would have to amend the post..or cop a warning......he was asking consent to do it himself.....

..so why would we need an ability to amend the post ourselves...

...my poblem was if a poster..and one has....refuses to give consent and would prefer to cop a warning instead...the mods should then reserve the right to delete or amend the post without consent....imho..that is...

He didnt do that the first night because he didnt realise the edit button had gone. Now he does which is all fine. I wouldnt give a warning, I would just change or delete it but they are running the forum. seems like double work to me though.

[SENsei]

judging by their posts..a few posers seem to be under a misapprehension.....


simon posted this on this thread..and i quote...

"May I delete it or alter it?

If you are not willing for it to be deleted or altered, then I shall issue you with a warning."


...he never said that we would have to amend the post..or cop a warning......he was asking consent to do it himself.....

..so why would we need an ability to amend the post ourselves...

...my poblem was if a poster..and one has....refuses to give consent and would prefer to cop a warning instead...the mods should then reserve the right to delete or amend the post without consent....imho..that is...

Guilty. I mis-read that. I thought the request was for the poster to edit their own post but you are correct, it was for 'consent' to do so. I then have no problem with it all, although it is showing a bit more politeness than I would show!!! All good.

[thejiggingsaint]

Good on Simon for having the patience, tenacity, diplomacy and good old courage to take the initiative and help get our forum back to some semblance of order. It really shouldn't be THAT hard for us to start practicing a bit of restraint when challenged by an opposing point of view to our own.....SHOULD it? To those who are prepared to tone down the vitriol in their posts, well done! To those who have no intention to change, well maybe you should reconsider that position?

[matrix]

Yeah agreed sen.
Here's the rules.
The end
But if that's the route they go then so be it.

Like joff I'll prob be able to not push the boundaries.
Blimey just want a better looking And functioning forum as I'm sure most posters do.

[Eastern]

Good on Simon for having the patience, tenacity, diplomacy and good old courage to take the initiative and help get our forum back to some semblance of order. It really shouldn't be THAT hard for us to start practicing a bit of restraint when challenged by an opposing point of view to our own.....SHOULD it? To those who are prepared to tone down the vitriol in their posts, well done! To those who have no intention to change, well maybe you should reconsider that position?

I've changed. I've gone from CONSIDERING buying certain people a beer to giving the thought ZERO CONSIDERATION !!

[thejiggingsaint]

CONSISTENCY Eastern, its in your nature mate, "certain people" have been waiting on your CONSIDERATION for a wee while now! (Hope I'm not risking a warning/ban)

[BakesFan]

Oh Man!!...and here I was pumping up your tires in the "Eastern's idea to untie the Saints" thread..... you can just get stuffed now.

[Eastern]

Oh Man!!...and here I was pumping up your tires in the "Eastern's idea to untie the Saints" thread..... you can just get stuffed now.

Not you bakes. I will buy you a "pony" when I see you !!

[BakesFan]

LOL!...your generosity knows no bounds...(other than about 150ml)

[Wayne42]

Do I have to read all 12 pages to know where the makeover/takeover bid now sits.

Am I right in saying the current mods will leave it as it is...

[plugger66]

Do I have to read all 12 pages to know where the makeover/takeover bid now sits.

Am I right in saying the current mods will leave it as it is...

No they arent. They are fixing it. Id be pretty sure it takes time though.

[sunsaint]

So, your argument is that when you come back 24 hours later and edit your post because you have calmed down, you don't think you may have already been reported/warned for the post by then?

This kind of poster is one of the many reasons behind this move. Why should the forum put up with posters coming on, creating a new post and venting. The problem is that these posters want to be seen, so they don't reply, the create a new thread. By them not being able to remove it after 5 minutes, they get a warning for filling the forum with rubbish, and it will hopefully stop them repeating this action.

yes you are right spamming flame tolls wont remove their posts so 5min or 24hrs doesnt make any difference time wise, but they ARE not a problem if the mods are watching the forum.
So if mods are here 24/7 then its all good.
Its the regulars, that may (and often do) get carried away, that with a little bit of self regulating moderation(outside of 5min) might make this place a little bit more civil. If someone takes offence at something written they can PM and ask for removal, if it doesnt get removed then the mods can step in then. Yellow card, red card, & public SIN BIN, done.

[matrix]

Who is here after around 2am tho?
Might be hard to find a mod to be on around 3 or 4 am
Maybe someone overseas.
There's a few of us on around midnight to one am but its pretty quiet after about 2am usually.

[Old Mate]

Who is here after around 2am tho?

Plugger66. He doesn't sleep he waits.

[GrumpyOne]

I am sure that it was not BFUSA's intention to further strengthen the oppressive dictatorship that runs this forum.

All that seems to have happened is that HSV has woken up from a long sleep and decided to order us around like we are all naughty schoolboys.

I do not accept that any owner/admin/mod has a divine right to impose their ego on this forum.

BFUSA says that we all own this forum. Obviously that view is not shared by others.

[bobmurray]

A new beginning.

How good is that.. I can't wait to test out my new technical skills..

Brothers in Arms....onward we go

[Majority]

The way to decrease spelling mistakes before pressing the submit button is to write your post on your word processor. ( not sure if this can be done on your phone )
This way you can review what you have written, and spell check it.
Then just simply copy and paste.

I have used the edit function on more than one occasion after what I wrote was too radical ( it was not about a fellow poster on SS ), and could have possibly lead to legal action.

I deleted the text and replaced it with…

Post deleted by author

If the edit function is removed, this cannot be done

Sure we can contact a Mod to delete it, but it will take longer to be done,
And we do not want to overwork the Mods. (no sarcasm)

So maybe a compromise is in order.

A function to delete a post, but not edit.

If the poster wants to resubmit it without the part they wanted to edit,
they can just write it again and it will be the last post at that time.

[desertsaint]

Who is here after around 2am tho?
Might be hard to find a mod to be on around 3 or 4 am
Maybe someone overseas.
There's a few of us on around midnight to one am but its pretty quiet after about 2am usually.

Madmen and Englishman. And idiots stupid enough to think it'd be a good idea to watch Australia come crashing down in their opening batting session.

[Buckets]

I am sure that it was not BFUSA's intention to further strengthen the oppressive dictatorship that runs this forum.

All that seems to have happened is that HSV has woken up from a long sleep and decided to order us around like we are all naughty schoolboys.

I do not accept that any owner/admin/mod has a divine right to impose their ego on this forum.

BFUSA says that we all own this forum. Obviously that view is not shared by others.

Wow wouldn't want you to ever live in a dictatorship!

There are rules.

There are mods who will enforce those rules. That's the job of a mod. Someone to moderate the forum discussions when they transgress the rules that are found at the top of the Forums. It's good to see that changes are afoot, been a while coming.

Those who don't like playing by the rules will cop punishment from the mods. Nothing wrong with that. All other forums I'm apart of work in the same fashion. Looking forward to it!

[saintspremiers]

Majority's post makes a lot of sense re a delete function mainly with respect to legal ramifications that could shut the site down before mods had the chance to intercept. Yes, unlikely if there are more mods more often but still a risk.

I sometimes edited posts due to typos and missing info due to posting on my phone as I normally do.

[joffaboy]

A new beginning.

How good is that.. I can't wait to test out my new technical skills..

Brothers in Arms....onward we go

I love you bobmurray, always have allways will.

I was so hard on you because the love I showed was unrequited.

You spurned me, but I will forgive and give you a second chance.

Lets all learn to love

PEACE