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Post: # 1356321Post bobmurray »

In any election there should be an alternative. I think we are seeing evidence that an alternative is both essential and eagerly sought..

We could see a dictatorship if we are not careful.... :shock: :shock: :shock:


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I'm happy to help out as a mod I'm on here daily at least to browse. Happy to help if needed BFUSA.


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Post: # 1356325Post Sainternist »

bobmurray wrote:In any election there should be an alternative. I think we are seeing evidence that an alternative is both essential and eagerly sought..

We could see a dictatorship if we are not careful.... :shock: :shock: :shock:
Well, you could always put your money where your mouth is and run as the alternative yourself?

You'd probably have to lose the Old Man Gloom image for your PR during the campaign though. Not sure it would work in your favour to win over a majority.


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Post: # 1356331Post bobmurray »

Sainternist wrote:
bobmurray wrote:In any election there should be an alternative. I think we are seeing evidence that an alternative is both essential and eagerly sought..

We could see a dictatorship if we are not careful.... :shock: :shock: :shock:
Well, you could always put your money where your mouth is and run as the alternative yourself?

You'd probably have to lose the Old Man Gloom image for your PR during the campaign though. Not sure it would work in your favour to win over a majority.
Will you be my running mate, that would help my image no end... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Post: # 1356336Post BackFromUSA »

To be clear ... I don't even want to be a MOD or Admin ... rather be involved in getting this ship back in order AND making it more feature and content rich ...


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bobmurray wrote: We could see a dictatorship if we are not careful.... :shock: :shock: :shock:
... :lol: that sounds scary...thank goodness that's not the case now. :roll:


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Post: # 1356358Post saintspremiers »

BackFromUSA wrote:To be clear ... I don't even want to be a MOD or Admin ... rather be involved in getting this ship back in order AND making it more feature and content rich ...
Good. The separation is important.

SS is run as badly as our club at moment.


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Post: # 1356367Post asiu »

what about the .. 1 Id / persona / forum name ONLY rule ?


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Post: # 1356382Post joffaboy »

Principle of Q'uo wrote:what about the .. 1 Id / persona / forum name ONLY rule ?

yes what about it?

I agree gazrat oops - :D :D :D

We need to stop the people who are on here with more than one nic like one we all know of on the GO.

And bobmurray cant be a mod he doesn't understand technology as we all know.

But with you all of the way BFUSA.

Still my only two requests would be to have the ignore option and to stop fools having more than one nic.

I can't see any drawbacks.

I can see the moderation improving and I'll put my hand up for being over robust on occasions.

Willing to temper that especially if the moderations rules are followed and moderators enforce them.

May well stop one well known serial abuser and spammer who actually has been banned from SS on more than one occasion from wrecking the forum with his tirades of invective and insults.

I am wiling to help finance this in a capacity but maybe a caveat would be that, well for me anyway, was if the moderation rules were strictly enforced, and that includes for everyone, me included. Speaking to many on here I know they dont post here anymore because of the free reign one particular spammer and abuser has been given.

cheers - let me know how I can assist. happy to improve this forum and get the place to improve.


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Post: # 1356383Post matrix »

Someone explain The reasoning the forum needs to be open.......


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matrix wrote:Someone explain The reasoning the forum needs to be open.......
i dont think it should be open but newbies should be able to view before having to sign on


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Post: # 1356390Post sunsaint »

Bring in a public "sin bin" and im in in


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Post: # 1356391Post matrix »

sunsaint wrote:
matrix wrote:Someone explain The reasoning the forum needs to be open.......
i dont think it should be open but newbies should be able to view before having to sign on

not a bad idea but dont know how that could happen
the traffics here already
its not like we need another 2000 members?
but agree no point discouraging people about joining
finding a way around the log in issue would be a good idea


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Post: # 1356393Post plugger66 »

sunsaint wrote:
matrix wrote:Someone explain The reasoning the forum needs to be open.......
i dont think it should be open but newbies should be able to view before having to sign on

Isnt that the same as being open. You must join to write things but surely to get more people they need to see what they are getting themselves in for before joining. Before I joined I could see what people wrote and thought this may be good for gatting news and opinions. Now you have to join to see.


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Post: # 1356399Post joffaboy »

sunsaint wrote:Bring in a public "sin bin" and im in in
BF uses a card system which seems to work OK.

Has to be highly moderated though.


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Post: # 1356401Post matrix »

yup
card system is the go


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Post: # 1356404Post clarky449 »

Look guys, as a respected, intelligent, fair poster of SS. I fully agree this change.

1. Forum should be open
2. Ignore option should NOT be an option
3. Different Banner
4. Some posters may like to write articles or something
5. Have a tipping comp that is shown on the front screen, to get the site more interactive.
6. A debate forum (like your you suggested)
7. Links to Saints sites
8. Maybe a forum page where we can post videos of the club.
9. I think BF works well with the card system. Worth a look, but as someone suggested, need to see that once the Mod situation is fixed
10. Mods, Mods, Mods


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Post: # 1356406Post saintspremiers »

plugger66 wrote:
sunsaint wrote:
matrix wrote:Someone explain The reasoning the forum needs to be open.......
i dont think it should be open but newbies should be able to view before having to sign on

Isnt that the same as being open. You must join to write things but surely to get more people they need to see what they are getting themselves in for before joining. Before I joined I could see what people wrote and thought this may be good for gatting news and opinions. Now you have to join to see.
Agree.

Whoever decided to put this feature in must've had rocks in their head. It really helped kill off the forum as we knew it, together with almost zero moderation.


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Post: # 1356409Post bergholt »

saintspremiers wrote:Whoever decided to put this feature in must've had rocks in their head. It really helped kill off the forum as we knew it, together with almost zero moderation.
Yep. Opening up the forum again would be a massive step.


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Post: # 1356412Post gringo »

It was more the down days when no one could log in or see anything then changed the look of the place and then closed it. Plenty of creatures of habit nearly melted down when their screen went black and red. I can see us turning into another Egypt here. The black white and red must bring out the crazies.


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Post: # 1356414Post matrix »

opening it up does not help get new members
opening it up will not stop trolls

you have a main page that describes the site, and that if you want to be part of the community then please by all means create a username and come join in the fun of discussing the saints and be part of our forum.
if you dont want to be a part of it why should you be able to waltz in and read everything? just because you can on big footy??

it never stopped me or prob 300 others poining back when you had to log in to read
anyhoo
its something that can be turned off and on at the flick of a switch and can be tried out when the new format is running

other ideas:
embedded youtube links
twitter and facebook links to the club and players (for those that use that side of social media)
report button stays
ignore function stays (u have to have the option for people)
multiple templates to choose which layout and colors suit each poster best
a card system
when on the saints page/area (here) there needs to be links to the other areas of the forum at the click of a button and shown on the saints area, that way they might get more traffic.
donating members to be recognised somewhere near the avatar
like buttons for all the facebook users
donation button on the forum so it can be seen at all times and how much % has been donated as the days tick along.
donating members to get something non donating members dont, i dont know, something small, that might encourage more people to donate..maybe a sep area or something??
but you need something to encourage peeps to drop $5 etc
maybe bronze silver gold donators??????
comps with any left over server donations
like signed stuff...alot of posters go to training etc and can get sigs etc and these can be used for competitions for the people that cant get near training etc (bit like what we have now with MM and the player sponsor thing)
needs to be at least 6 mods if not more

just throwing out ideas


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Post: # 1356420Post plugger66 »

matrix wrote:opening it up does not help get new members
opening it up will not stop trolls

you have a main page that describes the site, and that if you want to be part of the community then please by all means create a username and come join in the fun of discussing the saints and be part of our forum.
if you dont want to be a part of it why should you be able to waltz in and read everything? just because you can on big footy??

it never stopped me or prob 300 others poining back when you had to log in to read
anyhoo
its something that can be turned off and on at the flick of a switch and can be tried out when the new format is running

other ideas:
embedded youtube links
twitter and facebook links to the club and players (for those that use that side of social media)
report button stays
ignore function stays (u have to have the option for people)
multiple templates to choose which layout and colors suit each poster best
a card system
when on the saints page/area (here) there needs to be links to the other areas of the forum at the click of a button and shown on the saints area, that way they might get more traffic.
donating members to be recognised somewhere near the avatar
like buttons for all the facebook users
donation button on the forum so it can be seen at all times and how much % has been donated as the days tick along.
donating members to get something non donating members dont, i dont know, something small, that might encourage more people to donate..maybe a sep area or something??
but you need something to encourage peeps to drop $5 etc
maybe bronze silver gold donators??????
comps with any left over server donations
like signed stuff...alot of posters go to training etc and can get sigs etc and these can be used for competitions for the people that cant get near training etc (bit like what we have now with MM and the player sponsor thing)
needs to be at least 6 mods if not more

just throwing out ideas

I joined 3 months before you and Im sure i could read all the posts before i joined. I thought that only stopped about 4 years ago if not less. Could be wrong. I have a habit of that. Maybe we have a telly of the money donated on that posters profile. rather not have separate areas because some people mightnt be able to afford a donation but may say many worthwhile things like I do. No idea how the card system works on BF. Never go there. Can someone explain it?


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Post: # 1356424Post saintspremiers »

plugs, apart from saying you're ugly and own a 1999 commodore wagon what useful things have you said on here? :wink:


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Post: # 1356425Post plugger66 »

saintspremiers wrote:plugs, apart from saying you're ugly and own a 1999 commodore wagon what useful things have you said on here? :wink:

This thread all the whole forum? If its this thread not much at all but ifs it the whole forum well yer still not much at all. I did once say Dal was going to miss a game and I ws 100% sure. he played.


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Post: # 1356426Post matrix »

seeing as i have you on ignore i had to hit the display this post...yeah it was a risk, but if the discussion stays about making this place better i can take that risk to communicate

the card system works by getting yellow and red cards
id prob be on yellow and youd prob be on red by about now
i shouldnt need to explain why....

it wouldnt be a separate talking area for donators, as those that could not afford it it wouldnt be fair to
just something diff, maybe a slightly bigger avatar and a custom title under your avatar and non donators dont get that?

its just ideas plugger to get more peeps to possibly chip in $5 or so
the more donations the quicker the bill gets paid
the more donations the more chance of getting extra bucks the forum could use to but towards competition prizes or something that could then go back to posters?

eg the bill is 1000 for the year
we get 1300
someone could get a jumper and get a few sigs on it, it could then be put in a comp for dedicated posters who contribute.
imagine someone up in far nq or wa or tassie that cant get to games etc, they might be able to win a signed jumper for themselves or a signed little footy for the kids????


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