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lummox wrote: She can't both settle the case for money, and then want him charged on top of that.

Did she settle for money? Anyway when does a civil case override a criminal case?


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There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
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lummox wrote:
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Solar wrote:Perhaps I need to just let this go. Just makes me sad and feel sick
How do you think the victim feels?

Alleged victim. Remember if she was originally willing to take money instead of justice then that should change one's opinion of how reliable she is. Perhaps money is what she wanted from the start, it wouldn't be the first time.
That's unfair - if there really was a crime committed and money appeared to be the only form of justice she was going to get then maybe she settled for that being better than nothing?

you have no idea of the circumstances and you can no more intuit her motivations than you can state his guilt or innocence.......pull your head in.


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lummox wrote:
She can't both settle the case for money, and then want him charged on top of that.

and why not exactly?????


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stinger wrote:http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... 2ofzh.html


'St Kilda chief Michael Nettlefold, who is overseas, had not returned calls from The Age and the AFL indicated it would release a statement regarding the charges later on Tuesday."


...what's with nettlefold being overseas at this time of year ffs.... :roll: :roll: :roll: ????
Spending some of his $750k salary. i sincerely hope he's overseas on club business, but somehow i doubt it.


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So does anyone know roughly how long it will take for the court case to begin?


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matrix wrote:What victim joffa?
No one has been found guilty of anything yet?

No victim has been declared yet?

Not defending anyone here either.
Someone's a victim....when the thing has been settled and solved we will then know who the victim is.

IF he is guilty then u can tell everyone u called it
Not calling anything, Milne has the presumption of innocence, like everyone in our society.

I think people are being pedantic saying there is no female victim here. In the eyes of the law there may not be, but if someone has been subjected to a violent assault, which what rape is, they are a victim, even there if there is not enough evidence to prove betyond a reasonable doubt.

Incredibly hard to get a rape conviction and my feeling is that Milne wont be convicted, but I still see the woman as a victim.


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There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
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Re: Milne

Post: # 1347690Post matrix »

Was it sometime in July I read?
That it start.


Far call joffa
There's a victim somewhere.


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White Winmar wrote:
magnifisaint wrote:If they couldn't convict Lovett how could they convict Milne
It's called the jury system. The legal system's version of the lottery. Once you get in front of a jury, anything's possible.
be hard for milne to get an impartial jury or a member of one without an opinion in victoria..judging by footy crowds...
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#1GILL wrote:So does anyone know roughly how long it will take for the court case to begin?
Age says Milne faces court on July 5th

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FQF wrote:The prosecution would not take this case to court all these years later if they did not think that they had at least a reasonable chance of a conviction.

But I would be very surprised if he is actually convicted.
You've got to be joking mate, do you honestly think the prosecution (DPP) are competent! Not having a case has never stopped them, their default position is to just accept what the complainant says. Because women never lie!!!!!!! I prove my point with the farcical prosecutions of Theo Theophanus and Andrew Lovett. There was never a skerrick of a case against them.

I have quite frankly had a gut full of the donut munching corrupt apes, that make up our Police Force. Here's a job for the so called OPI, investigate the many pigs that are corrupt. See the execution of Carl Williams, who was about to drop it on the corrupt spivs in blue he dealt with. Instead they dig up a rape case that was never a rape case, because Gillard has hysterically prosecuted a misogyny scare campaign. And the pigs in blue wonder and whine about the public not respecting them, well the lack of respect is deserved.

Good luck Milney get yourself a good lawyer and expose the bulls***.


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matrix wrote:Was it sometime in July I read?
That it start.


Far call joffa
There's a victim somewhere.

Look matrix, I am not after upsetting anyone, especially on a subject we are all sick to death of and wish it would just go away.

You are correct, plenty of victims and no winners on this one. :cry:


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There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
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SaintPav wrote:It's absoultley shocking that a Police case could be tampered with in this way. Of course, I bet most people will focus on Milne and not on the corruption and cover ups that can occur in Vicpol which is a huge issue.
Indeed, St. Pav. If there is no new evidence and this is all about incompetence, dishonesty and undue influence, then there should be others in the dock after Milne. The OPI has a less than flattering record when it comes to competence, but their involvement points to the possibility of a troubling thought. That the whole case has been f@&ked up, deliberately or through incompetence. I don't know which one is worse!


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God I hope he plays another season.


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Now I have read it all... It is Julia Gillards fult Milne has been charged.

FFS give me a fkn break :roll:


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There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
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Moorabbin Man wrote:
FQF wrote:The prosecution would not take this case to court all these years later if they did not think that they had at least a reasonable chance of a conviction.

But I would be very surprised if he is actually convicted.
You've got to be joking mate, do you honestly think the prosecution (DPP) are competent! Not having a case has never stopped them, their default position is to just accept what the complainant says. Because women never lie!!!!!!! I prove my point with the farcical prosecutions of Theo Theophanus and Andrew Lovett. There was never a skerrick of a case against them.

I have quite frankly had a gut full of the donut munching corrupt apes, that make up our Police Force. Here's a job for the so called OPI, investigate the many pigs that are corrupt. See the execution of Carl Williams, who was about to drop it on the corrupt spivs in blue he dealt with. Instead they dig up a rape case that was never a rape case, because Gillard has hysterically prosecuted a misogyny scare campaign. And the pigs in blue wonder and whine about the public not respecting them, well the lack of respect is deserved.

Good luck Milney get yourself a good lawyer and expose the bulls***.
much of a chip on that shoulder??


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joffaboy wrote:
matrix wrote:What victim joffa?
No one has been found guilty of anything yet?

No victim has been declared yet?

Not defending anyone here either.
Someone's a victim....when the thing has been settled and solved we will then know who the victim is.

IF he is guilty then u can tell everyone u called it
Not calling anything, Milne has the presumption of innocence, like everyone in our society.

I think people are being pedantic saying there is no female victim here. In the eyes of the law there may not be, but if someone has been subjected to a violent assault, which what rape is, they are a victim, even there if there is not enough evidence to prove betyond a reasonable doubt.

Incredibly hard to get a rape conviction and my feeling is that Milne wont be convicted, but I still see the woman as a victim.
Geez I've just put down my violin. Yes there is an ALLEGED victim who remains nameless whilst Milne's reputation is trashed. What you call a victim is a malicious liar, it seems you've been sucked in by Gillard's misogyny campaign. Milne is the victim here interviewed by the police 9 f****** years ago, told there was no case and now charged 9 years later. Where on earth is the fair process in that? So f*** your ANONYMOUS victim.


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joffaboy wrote:
matrix wrote:What victim joffa?
No one has been found guilty of anything yet?

No victim has been declared yet?

Not defending anyone here either.
Someone's a victim....when the thing has been settled and solved we will then know who the victim is.

IF he is guilty then u can tell everyone u called it
Not calling anything, Milne has the presumption of innocence, like everyone in our society.

I think people are being pedantic saying there is no female victim here. In the eyes of the law there may not be, but if someone has been subjected to a violent assault, which what rape is, they are a victim, even there if there is not enough evidence to prove betyond a reasonable doubt.

Incredibly hard to get a rape conviction and my feeling is that Milne wont be convicted, but I still see the woman as a victim.
Well to me, you saying she is a victim is implying that Milne is guilty. If he is then sure i agree she is the victim but it could quite easily be a false claim against a high profile sportsman. Again none of us have a clue if the victim is the woman or milne.


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I don't have an opinion on this issue.

The only opinion I share is not my own, and stems from what I gleaned of a poster on here who painted this in a very different light for me.

It should never be ammunition to use at the football.

In no way does this latest set of events justify anyone to use this word freely to insult Milne, people MUST be mindful of the fact that they could potentially hurt someone who is a very real victim in your cheap attempt to pull down someone else.

Someone who may be sitting nearby does not need to hear this word bandied around.

Sadly I can see this ramping up again considerably.


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samwell wrote:
Moorabbin Man wrote:
FQF wrote:The prosecution would not take this case to court all these years later if they did not think that they had at least a reasonable chance of a conviction.

But I would be very surprised if he is actually convicted.
You've got to be joking mate, do you honestly think the prosecution (DPP) are competent! Not having a case has never stopped them, their default position is to just accept what the complainant says. Because women never lie!!!!!!! I prove my point with the farcical prosecutions of Theo Theophanus and Andrew Lovett. There was never a skerrick of a case against them.

I have quite frankly had a gut full of the donut munching corrupt apes, that make up our Police Force. Here's a job for the so called OPI, investigate the many pigs that are corrupt. See the execution of Carl Williams, who was about to drop it on the corrupt spivs in blue he dealt with. Instead they dig up a rape case that was never a rape case, because Gillard has hysterically prosecuted a misogyny scare campaign. And the pigs in blue wonder and whine about the public not respecting them, well the lack of respect is deserved.

Good luck Milney get yourself a good lawyer and expose the bulls***.
much of a chip on that shoulder??
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joffaboy wrote:Now I have read it all... It is Julia Gillards fult Milne has been charged.
You know it makes sense.


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Moorabbin Man wrote:
FQF wrote:The prosecution would not take this case to court all these years later if they did not think that they had at least a reasonable chance of a conviction.

But I would be very surprised if he is actually convicted.
You've got to be joking mate, do you honestly think the prosecution (DPP) are competent! Not having a case has never stopped them, their default position is to just accept what the complainant says. Because women never lie!!!!!!! I prove my point with the farcical prosecutions of Theo Theophanus and Andrew Lovett. There was never a skerrick of a case against them.

I have quite frankly had a gut full of the donut munching corrupt apes, that make up our Police Force. Here's a job for the so called OPI, investigate the many pigs that are corrupt. See the execution of Carl Williams, who was about to drop it on the corrupt spivs in blue he dealt with. Instead they dig up a rape case that was never a rape case, because Gillard has hysterically prosecuted a misogyny scare campaign. And the pigs in blue wonder and whine about the public not respecting them, well the lack of respect is deserved.

Good luck Milney get yourself a good lawyer and expose the bulls***.

Now that is the best lot of crap I have read on here in a while and considering some of the s*** I write you have done well to lead. Ex cop or current criminal?


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Post: # 1347711Post Moorabbin Man »

evertonfc wrote:I think the club should stand him down until the matter is resolved one way or the other.

It's not about passing judgement. It's about respecting that one of our players has been charged with a heinous act.

It's the only decent thing to do.
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Interested in what new info they have. Surely it's all 'he said, she said' this far down the line, and how often does that lead to an actual conviction. Also hasn't some been followed with accusers being sued.
They must have something big.

If he is guilty without a doubt then he has to do his time.

Sadly, retirement might look certain. Can't imagine what he will go through if he stays in the spotlight.


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samwell wrote:
lummox wrote:
She can't both settle the case for money, and then want him charged on top of that.

and why not exactly?????

and well...she has..... :roll:


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Moorabbin Man wrote:Geez I've just put down my violin. Yes there is an ALLEGED victim who remains nameless whilst Milne's reputation is trashed. What you call a victim is a malicious liar, it seems you've been sucked in by Gillard's misogyny campaign. Milne is the victim here interviewed by the police 9 f****** years ago, told there was no case and now charged 9 years later. Where on earth is the fair process in that? So f*** your ANONYMOUS victim.

So who was charged again? Oh thats right the malicious liar woman.

And its now Julia Gillards fault.

Let the demonisation of the woman continue..........

spare me :roll:


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There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
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